Because The United Kingdom?

[Stuart Galbraith]

From my cold dead slightly waxy hands...

[Mr King]

[urbanoid]

Politics is biological, ep. 69420

Countries are not merely economic units and their inhabitants are more than GDP.

Edited November 25 by urbanoid

[Stuart Galbraith]

22 minutes ago, Mr King said:

Only because India wont open its country up to Western Banks, and because UK banks are more intent on investing in the PRC than they were the UK. its not much of an achievement looked at like that.

[urbanoid]

Just now, Stuart Galbraith said:

Only because India wont open its country up to Western Banks, and because UK banks are more intent on investing in the PRC than they were the UK. its not much of an achievement looked at like that.

No, because of mass immigration of people who do not nor will consider themselves British, who do not have the deep connection to the land, who will not be able to blend in, whose cultural norms aren't particularly compatible, whose allegiances are to their own groups first and foremost.

[DB]

There is some irony here - Rich people in London taking money out of India to invest it in the UK.

This somehow sounds familiar, but I can't quite put my finger on why.

[Stuart Galbraith]

2 hours ago, urbanoid said:

No, because of mass immigration of people who do not nor will consider themselves British, who do not have the deep connection to the land, who will not be able to blend in, whose cultural norms aren't particularly compatible, whose allegiances are to their own groups first and foremost.

Tell me, how many of those people, whom own corner shops in Bradford, or chipshops in Dudley, do you think are buying up properties in London?

[rmgill]

On 11/24/2024 at 9:09 AM, DB said:

Looking specifically at the farming issue, how is a tax that applies only to family-owned farms and not corporate owned farms "fair"?

Bearing in mind that a family cannot get out of inheritance tax by forming a company, because passing it on counts as an inheritance.

Passing on the stock value itself I think is what then would be taxed. 

 

On 11/24/2024 at 9:09 AM, DB said:

I'm sure that there are ways to reduce the damage - there usually are, because tax laws are written by idiots and exploited by smart people - but it's just another way to benefit corporations over people.

Yep, generally, the more complex the regs the more expensive it is to navigate a path with well paid experts to do so. Which favors the large organizations and not the small. 

[lucklucky]

https://twitter.com/KurtSchlichter/status/1861800754652266871

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Keir Starmer does not rule out introducing blasphemy laws in the UK when asked by Labour MP Tahir Ali

 

Edited Thursday at 07:31 PM by lucklucky

[Stuart Galbraith]

Jesus Christ, I think thats a sodding great idea. Really bloody great.

I think the significant point surely is, he isnt ruling in doing it either. And he wont, because he would like more than one term if he can get one.

[TrustMe]

It should be noted that the majority of Britons don't believe in a god at all.

[Stuart Galbraith]

Well after the last 14 years, how could they?

 

[urbanoid]

Wow, you surely didn't expect THAT from THAT guy from THAT party, eh?

https://x.com/Geiger_Capital/status/1862533342949675120

[Stuart Galbraith]

Well he actually played a bit of a blinder. Starmer is classed as not very smart, and this time at least, he really got the drop on the Tories. Even people like Robert Jenryk were even admitting he was right (without actually saying he was right of course).

Basically the figures for immigration were cooked. I dont know whom by, but it would seem that someone has been adjusting them downwards. This was going on for very many years, which seems to suggest someone in office was cooking the books to make the Government of the day look less inept than they in fact were. Anyway Labour gets in, isnt impressed by the figures, does a quick dive, and adjusts them upwards. Even admitting not, we are not entirely clear how many came in. And the miraculous thing is, the last range of conservative figures, even adjusted, were coming down. So ironically they didnt need to adjust them, but having committed to that range of action, they didnt have much option.

So Starmer can bask in the glory of having accurate figures, the figures seemingly are coming down (from Conservative belated efforts or maybe just nobody wants to come to this blighted island anymore), and Starmer says, 'we will do better'. Which is yet to be proven, but as a piece of theatre, it was beautifully managed if nothing else. He has highlighted how bad the last 14 years have been. People can point to starmer saying he betrayed his promises, but in truth, we had 14 years of successive Conservative PM's saying 'we ill get immigration down' and only ever managed it in cooked figures.

Oh, in other news, Farage is coming out in support of cutting abortion. Yes, an issue nobody in the country gives a damn about, with people still suffering a cost of living crisis, he comes out and proposes an issue that even the Republicans admit didnt do them any favours. Fairly clear he is going to delve into the Trump election chest and drop his methods on the country and assume they will translate well. Perhaps they will, perhaps our people are in as much demand of a populist demagogue that will sell the country out to big money interests. OTOH, some of use saw that in the 1980's and we are a bit wiser.

[JWB]

I was forced to pull out my own teeth after waiting nearly seven years for an NHS dentist appointment - and I've STILL not got one.

https://x.com/MailOnline/status/1863174238288416952

[urbanoid]

Waiting for 7 years instead of going privately? Madness.

[Stuart Galbraith]

Its not quite that simple. Because the NHS dentists are full, then so are all the private ones. My uncle wanted to go for a new practice and found their books were full.

[urbanoid]

Seems like a 'you problem', even when I needed a surgical removal of a tooth that got the inflammation I scheduled a private visit within a week. Then again it was the worst pain I've ever felt in my life and I had thoughts of literally banging my head against a wall, so... I went to the hospital ER instead of waiting a few more days and had it removed immediately.

I don't think I ever had to wait more than a week for any private visit if I needed something done urgently.

[Ivanhoe]

On 11/25/2024 at 9:32 AM, DB said:

There is some irony here - Rich people in London taking money out of India to invest it in the UK.

This somehow sounds familiar, but I can't quite put my finger on why.

We're reminded of it every Christmas season;

https://diehard.fandom.com/wiki/Nakatomi_Plaza

[bojan]

6 hours ago, urbanoid said:

...I don't think I ever had to wait more than a week for any private visit if I needed something done urgently.

I have found out from a friend who is a dentist that there are loads and loads of Brits who fly to Serbia to get their dental work done, since it is cheaper than private practices in UK and way faster than waiting for NHS...

 

[Stuart Galbraith]

NHS dentistry was broken back in Tony Blairs day. He screwed it up, and it never improved. There isnt enough private dentists int he UK to cope with the increase in demand. I think my last dentist (I really ought to go or its going to lose my place) was a Nigerian. Super dentist by the way, but it rather illustrates how piss poor we are at training up our own people for our own demands.

 

[urbanoid]

9 hours ago, bojan said:

I have found out from a friend who is a dentist that there are loads and loads of Brits who fly to Serbia to get their dental work done, since it is cheaper than private practices in UK and way faster than waiting for NHS...

 

I heard that Polish immigrants in UK typically come back to Poland to do dental stuff, that even some actual Brits started coming too.

[DB]

NHS dentistry doesn't really cover cosmetic work, unless it's reconstructive. You're not going to get veneers and all that Osmond/Kennedy work done for free.

 

[Stuart Galbraith]

Some 40 years ago I had orthodontic work done by the NHS, although even then I got the impression they were just trying to speed it through. It was a lot better, but it was hardly hollywood standard.

That was fun, having 5 teeth taken out in one day, just so they could create room for the other teeth to move. And then having my upper gum operated on to wrap a wire around a tooth that was growing along my gum, and turn it through 90 degrees. I shudder to think what the kids must be going through today that need to have that done, there probably isnt anyone for them without going private.

 

[Mr King]

lmao

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BBC’s children show “Horrible Histories” has released a song called “Been Here From The Start” which is about black people always being in Britain. BBC is rewriting history by teaching children that the original Britons were black.

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