Because The United Kingdom?

[urbanoid]

SOME taxation is necessary. Personally I'm not comfortable with dying being taxed, same for 'profits you could have achieved but didn't' (a.k.a. unrealized capital gains).

[NickM]

3 hours ago, urbanoid said:

SOME taxation is necessary. Personally I'm not comfortable with dying being taxed, same for 'profits you could have achieved but didn't' (a.k.a. unrealized capital gains).

Yeah,  "unrealized gains" is a totally loony concept 

[Murph]

I saw that King Charles’s coronation cost his taxpayer 90,000,000 pounds that’s a lot of money for what?

[Sinistar]

2 hours ago, NickM said:

Yeah,  "unrealized gains" is a totally loony concept 

and every so often they float this again. i could not even begin to conceive how you would implement a tax on something that is not there

 

the way they try to sell that is that it only a tax on the very rich and not on the retail investor would seem like anyone who thinks like that does not actually know how that works, since the chaos it would introduce as everyone figures out how to dump their positions at the arbitrary deadline or bring in top accounting firms to somehow game the system or what have you would itself affect everyone else in a chain reaction

[JWB]

15 hours ago, NickM said:

Yeah,  "unrealized gains" is a totally loony concept 

SCOTUS would probably overturn it.

[Stuart Galbraith]

17 hours ago, Murph said:

I saw that King Charles’s coronation cost his taxpayer 90,000,000 pounds that’s a lot of money for what?

Not when you consider you spend 200 million Dollars every 4 years.

[Murph]

24 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Not when you consider you spend 200 million Dollars every 4 years.

And that is also just insane to me.

[Stuart Galbraith]

Yeah, but look at it like this, you spend 200 million every 4 years, we spent 90 million every 70 years.

[Murph]

And we are completely nuts to do so.  

[Ssnake]

The Windsors draw a lot of tourists. Not sure if the average US president has a similar touristic appeal. Also, the coronation costs were paid for by money earned by crown possessions (mostly, renting out land to farmers and such), not taxes. All in all I think the Windsors may actually be a net positive industry for Britain. Of course, I have no idea what the opportunity costs of having The Royals are, but it seems like a majority of Britons prefer keeping them. As much as I am an anti-royalist, I can tolerate this completely emasciated form of autocracy.

[Stuart Galbraith]

I have zero problems iwth the cost. In fact, it was only 72 million, of which 22 million was policing, which to me looks pretty good value.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c04lyddv2p5o

In the end its what seperates us from less enlightned nations. We might only be a monarchy, but we are stills streets ahead of North Korea, the PRC and Russia, and it does no harm to remind the world of it.

[lucklucky]

Petition to have new elections achieved 100000, so ti will have to be discussed in Parliament.  

I expect the "winter of discontent" to be surpassed by current neo-marxists in power.

[Rick]

 

Interesting and a little bewildering things are happening in Great? Britain.

https://youtu.be/U5KxzyCprH0

 

[lucklucky]

As i have been posting in Authoritarian, Totalitarian democracies, UK is becoming one. In several aspects is already one.

[Stuart Galbraith]

Once again, people are fixating on their favourite alt right hate newspaper, and getting themselves dangerously overexcitied. There will be no election, we will not lurch into an authoritarian Republic.

Calm yourselves gentlemen, lest you bring on a case of apoplexy in your unfeasable exertions to defy logic.

[lucklucky]

 "According to recent reports, over thirteen thousand NCHIs have been recorded in the last year and a half."

NCHI= Non Crime Hate Incidents

 

 You are already in Orwell territory, stop denying.

[Stuart Galbraith]

How many prosecutions? And why is it that I, famed on tanknet for not giving a shit what people think and saying what I think, have yet to be hauled off to the Ministry of Informations Room 101? Because, you know, for the stuff ive said about Gaza, I should be one of the first to get the thumbscrews, right?

So here it is. We get slammed for allowing antisemitism, then we get slammed for trying to do something about it. Which again is fairly typical for the feeble minded debate we see on tanknet these days. What are you asking for? Something to be done but not that? Meanwhile we see college campus's in the US overrun by Hamas sympathizers flying the Palestinian flag, and the police shrug their shoulders saying nothing to be done.

 You dont like this system, fine, I agree. Show a better one, because the US and everyone else is failing at dealing with these problems.

[Rick]

23 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

How many prosecutions? And why is it that I, famed on tanknet for not giving a shit what people think and saying what I think, have yet to be hauled off to the Ministry of Informations Room 101? Because, you know, for the stuff ive said about Gaza, I should be one of the first to get the thumbscrews, right?

So here it is. We get slammed for allowing antisemitism, then we get slammed for trying to do something about it. Which again is fairly typical for the feeble minded debate we see on tanknet these days. What are you asking for? Something to be done but not that? Meanwhile we see college campus's in the US overrun by Hamas sympathizers flying the Palestinian flag, and the police shrug their shoulders saying nothing to be done.

 You dont like this system, fine, I agree. Show a better one, because the US and everyone else is failing at dealing with these problems.

According to recent reports, over thirteen thousand NCHIs have been recorded in the last year and a half." NCHI= Non Crime Hate Incidents

Well... why the reported and recorded incidents in the first place? Sounds like governmental intimidation to me. As many have stated on this Grate Site, the "investigation" is a part of the prosecution. 

[DB]

On 11/21/2024 at 2:02 PM, Ssnake said:

Let me offer a counterpoint, for discussion:

Untaxed inheritances are fundamentally incompatible with the principles of meritocracy. You can favor one, or the other, but not both at the same time. Simply put, inheritances disadvantage talented orphans.

Now, there is a potential to destroy businesses with inheritance taxation. This may be a justification for generous exemptions. But wealth accumulated in families has no inherently superior morality to it.

Looking specifically at the farming issue, how is a tax that applies only to family-owned farms and not corporate owned farms "fair"?

Bearing in mind that a family cannot get out of inheritance tax by forming a company, because passing it on counts as an inheritance.

I'm sure that there are ways to reduce the damage - there usually are, because tax laws are written by idiots and exploited by smart people - but it's just another way to benefit corporations over people.

[Murph]

18 hours ago, Ssnake said:

The Windsors draw a lot of tourists. Not sure if the average US president has a similar touristic appeal. Also, the coronation costs were paid for by money earned by crown possessions (mostly, renting out land to farmers and such), not taxes. All in all I think the Windsors may actually be a net positive industry for Britain. Of course, I have no idea what the opportunity costs of having The Royals are, but it seems like a majority of Britons prefer keeping them. As much as I am an anti-royalist, I can tolerate this completely emasciated form of autocracy.

I like the Brits having the Crown, it makes them Brits.  I am not an anti-royalist, I just follow the philosphy of "God, save and keep the Tsar...far far away from me".

[Murph]

Funny:

 

[urbanoid]

Let's hope that Barbour nationalism will prevail this time

https://x.com/kunley_drukpa/status/1860100415481913729

[sunday]

26 minutes ago, urbanoid said:

Let's hope that Barbour nationalism will prevail this time

https://x.com/kunley_drukpa/status/1860100415481913729

Drats. I would be no longer allowed to take my favorite rain jacket to Blighty!

[Stuart Galbraith]

It's a pretty stupid description of militant farmers. My father's favourite coat was a harbour jacket, and he was a socialist. It's standard wear in the style, whatever your affiliation.

[urbanoid]

5 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

It's a pretty stupid description of militant farmers. My father's favourite coat was a harbour jacket, and he was a socialist. It's standard wear in the style, whatever your affiliation.

Sorry, it's getting appropriated and there's nothing you can do about it.