rmgill Posted November 20, 2024 Posted November 20, 2024 (edited) Instead of nationalization, why not inject cash? Or suspend taxes or something to help them become more profitable? You nationalized nearly all your major/heavy industries. How’s that working out for you? And the US nationalization was just of a specific region with the major railroads dumping passenger service. All caused be federal ICC rules. And you WIlL note that that was federal purchase of a bankrupt Penn Central. All helped along by federal merger mandates. The lesson here is that the answer to too much government is not more government. If you are drunk you don’t go pour a fifth of scotch in your tea to help the drunk go away. And yes, it was in Labour’s mandate to screw British industry. Nice you say the quiet part out loud. You nationalized most of your major industries. Again, who went soviet again? Now you’re trying to do the same to farms. Edited November 20, 2024 by rmgill
JWB Posted November 20, 2024 Posted November 20, 2024 Botched operations are putting further strain on the NHS: Dirty tools, cutting wrong body part and leaving equipment in patient among top reasons why further treatment needed. https://x.com/MailOnline/status/1859154174920782196
TrustMe Posted November 20, 2024 Posted November 20, 2024 British MOD defence cuts ... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2k0292v0w1o A lot of this equipment is old and is now mission obsolete like the Watchkeeper drones. Their's no point having artillery drones when we have no artillery
Stuart Galbraith Posted November 20, 2024 Posted November 20, 2024 Well we have light artillery and about a battalions worth of 155mm guns. Personally, I'm not seeing anything here that's a problem. We simply don't use the Royal marines the way it requires 2 assault ships. Perhaps we should, but that's a matter for the future. These ships are soaking up funds, so get rid. What I would really like to see is cutting mod by about 10000.
Ivanhoe Posted November 20, 2024 Posted November 20, 2024 3 hours ago, rmgill said: Brie? They're all hobbits over there.
rmgill Posted November 20, 2024 Posted November 20, 2024 1 hour ago, Stuart Galbraith said: What I would really like to see is cutting mod by about 10000. Soldiers naturally. Keep the Administrative and paper pusher staff.
TrustMe Posted November 20, 2024 Posted November 20, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said: Well we have light artillery and about a battalions worth of 155mm guns. Personally, I'm not seeing anything here that's a problem. We simply don't use the Royal marines the way it requires 2 assault ships. Perhaps we should, but that's a matter for the future. These ships are soaking up funds, so get rid. What I would really like to see is cutting mod by about 10000. The defence civil service has been cut down decades ago. There's not much left there to cut. As for the artillery, if it's not mobile it won't survive on the modern battlefield. Edited November 20, 2024 by TrustMe
Stuart Galbraith Posted November 20, 2024 Posted November 20, 2024 Well we have 64000 in the mod, 4000 more since 2014, and rivalling the size of the British Army. There are mixed responses to watchkeeper, ranging from it never should have been bought, and withdrawn just as it might be good. The necessity of a runway when everything else is stolen these days does look questionable.
rmgill Posted November 21, 2024 Posted November 21, 2024 (edited) 10 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said: Jaguar still exist you know. Do they really? I think they exist in the same way that an ant infested with Ophiocordyceps unilateralis exists. Edited November 21, 2024 by rmgill
rmgill Posted November 21, 2024 Posted November 21, 2024 Oh, thanks Britain. You're taking our refugees it appears. https://x.com/BreannaMorello/status/1859386396898734173?fbclid=IwY2xjawGrf79leHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHbKtUIwgqHDuXQKDiH6jW28MEf0ZsKKiJYhQzs0DS2T3NM7FMJzkE6-z4g_aem_hkkBTBA2UjWSD4gwMfMw-Q
Mr King Posted November 21, 2024 Author Posted November 21, 2024 22 minutes ago, rmgill said: Oh, thanks Britain. You're taking our refugees it appears. https://x.com/BreannaMorello/status/1859386396898734173?fbclid=IwY2xjawGrf79leHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHbKtUIwgqHDuXQKDiH6jW28MEf0ZsKKiJYhQzs0DS2T3NM7FMJzkE6-z4g_aem_hkkBTBA2UjWSD4gwMfMw-Q Trash removing itself. I wish I could vote for Trump again.
rmgill Posted November 21, 2024 Posted November 21, 2024 Short bit of a farmer caller and James O’Brien arguing with said caller on the LBC call in show. and a longer bit of coverage on the farmers protest and with a most excellent bit of Clarkson putting a beeb reporter in her place.
seahawk Posted November 21, 2024 Posted November 21, 2024 Did they not just run a tender to replace the the Puma HC.2 and Leonardo was the only bidder - New Medium Helicopter, which was to replace the Puma and the Dauphin? (23 and 6 frames) So I guess NMH is dead?
Stuart Galbraith Posted November 21, 2024 Posted November 21, 2024 5 hours ago, rmgill said: Do they really? I think they exist in the same way that an ant infested with Ophiocordyceps unilateralis exists. No, they exist in a way dozens of your car companies dont. Yes, its a crap advert, we know. But it got you all worked up and noticing them again, so I guess it worked didnt it? Tell me, have Pontiac issued any adverts lately? That would be a no then.
Stuart Galbraith Posted November 21, 2024 Posted November 21, 2024 24 minutes ago, rmgill said: Short bit of a farmer caller and James O’Brien arguing with said caller on the LBC call in show. and a longer bit of coverage on the farmers protest and with a most excellent bit of Clarkson putting a beeb reporter in her place. Ah yes, the famous Victoria Derbyshire interview with Clarkson. Where he was a rude prick, S.O.P., and she tripped him up when it turned out he was making shit up on the fly. Again, S.O.P. So he retaliates by saying 'BBC mouthpiece of the Government', which of course didnt stop him working for them for most of his career, so what does that make him? When people elevate gutter slime to the position of guru, you know there is a problem. And for the farmers there certainly s, because their 'boohoohoo I wont be able to avoid inheritance tax through owning land' solution no longer works, and the vast majority of the public are completely apathetic to their 'plight'. Me included. Frankly if you feel threatened by a couple of bean lickers, then that says rather more about your country than mine I think.
urbanoid Posted November 21, 2024 Posted November 21, 2024 The great solution is no inheritance tax, I highly recommend it.
Stuart Galbraith Posted November 21, 2024 Posted November 21, 2024 There seems to have beena mispresentation of Inheritance tax. It is NOT to go after smaller farmers. What its intended to do is stop the huge landowners that have been vacuuming up small farms, through a calculation that if they own land, they wont have to pay it. This has been going on for 40 years now, resulting in bigger and bigger estates, and few and fewer independent farmers. Clarkson admits he bought land to avoid inheritance tax, precisely that in his interview with Derbyshire. Im supposed to have sympathy for these buggers for being tax dodgers? Screw them. Everyone else in the country has been paying their way, now they can pull their fair share.
urbanoid Posted November 21, 2024 Posted November 21, 2024 No, I mean no inheritance tax within the family. Not just farms, anything.
Stuart Galbraith Posted November 21, 2024 Posted November 21, 2024 I dont like taxing the dead either. OTOH, we have flirted with far worse ones. Britain is the only country I know that ever taxed windows....
TrustMe Posted November 21, 2024 Posted November 21, 2024 IH tax gets around £8 billion in revenue for the governmant each year. That's the equivilent of around a half a percent of income tax revenue. I'm sure that most British citizens would rather keep IH tax rather than pay an extra half a percent on income tax.
urbanoid Posted November 21, 2024 Posted November 21, 2024 Deport the expensive undesirables and slash foreign aid to the turd world, you'll be able to get rid of the inheritance tax* AND slash income taxes by more than half percent. *imo one of the most immoral taxes in existence, out there with unrealized capital gains tax
Rick Posted November 21, 2024 Posted November 21, 2024 14 minutes ago, urbanoid said: Deport the expensive undesirables and slash foreign aid to the turd world, you'll be able to get rid of the inheritance tax* AND slash income taxes by more than half percent. *imo one of the most immoral taxes in existence, out there with unrealized capital gains tax As far as taxation, I would put property taxes on non-income producing property first with inheritance taxes just loosing in a photo-finish.
urbanoid Posted November 21, 2024 Posted November 21, 2024 1 hour ago, Rick said: As far as taxation, I would put property taxes on non-income producing property first with inheritance taxes just loosing in a photo-finish. Depends on how high those taxes are, from what I understand for those of Sam it's up to the states? Recently someone from TX told me they pay some 5-6k USD a year. E.g. here (Poland) property taxes for residential real estate are largely symbolic, my parents pay maybe ~100 USD a year for 200 m2+ suburban house and a bit less for their summer house out in the sticks, I pay around 70 USD for an apartment and a garage (underground parking space) in the city.
Stuart Galbraith Posted November 21, 2024 Posted November 21, 2024 1 hour ago, urbanoid said: Deport the expensive undesirables and slash foreign aid to the turd world, you'll be able to get rid of the inheritance tax* AND slash income taxes by more than half percent. *imo one of the most immoral taxes in existence, out there with unrealized capital gains tax Well, there is a case for saying that the more foreign aid we dont send, the more immigrants we get. You could call it bribery not to come here, or you can call it development aid. It amounts to the same thing. Personally, im in favour of putting all of it into defence, just dont kid yourself there wont be unappreciated consequences. Immoral? Well yes, I dont disagree. Maybe we can start thinking more on the moral wellbeing of our richer classes after we have fixed the economy they screwed up.
Stuart Galbraith Posted November 21, 2024 Posted November 21, 2024 1 hour ago, Rick said: As far as taxation, I would put property taxes on non-income producing property first with inheritance taxes just loosing in a photo-finish. But that means you are charging people living in a bungalow the same as someone that lives in a London penthouse. Which I submit is even less fair and less moral. We actually flirted with Poll taxes some 30 years ago, where everyone would in theory pay the same. It ended Margaret Thatchers career precipitately as I recall.
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