Because The United Kingdom?

[Stuart Galbraith]

11 hours ago, rmgill said:

What, no warning sign for fast moving Vincent Black Shadows or slow moving steam traction engines?

Believe it or not, they do have warning signs up on the Bridge on Mansion street in Newbury...

 

[Stuart Galbraith]

 

[DB]

4 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

They are pounding them to buggery.

Whats worse, I live on an A road, one that emergency services and Ambulances use (on average we see 2 or 3 of the latter a day, on peak days as many as 6). You would think that would get us preference for spending on the road surface, but no. We just get quick patches on, which usually disintegrate fairly rapidly under rain and 40 ton lorries.

Just to give you an appreciation, this was about 4 miles down the road from me in  Nailsworth. Its patched now, though the roads the other way into Stroud arent.

 

You can see the problem I mentioned here - the top layer has just peeled off the layer beneath and instead of reworking that entire shit-show as a single piece, they're only going to patch the areas marked with the white paint. You can also see the trench fill in the opposing lane where someone came along and wrecked the road surface using a different grade of material and you can also see that the edges of that are not properly sealed, either.

 

[Ivanhoe]

https://modernity.news/2024/08/02/it-turns-out-hillary-clinton-is-the-biggest-donor-to-extremist-climate-protesters-in-the-uk/

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That is according to the Telegraph, which reports that financial disclosures from Hillary’s ‘Onward Together’ leftist think tank show it donated over half a million dollars in the past three years to the Climate Emergency Fund (CEF), which is the largest backer of Just Stop Oil and Extinction Rebellion.

You're welcome.

[Stuart Galbraith]

Why didnt you lock the crazy cow up?

 

Edited August 2, 2024 by Stuart Galbraith

[Stuart Galbraith]

2 hours ago, DB said:

You can see the problem I mentioned here - the top layer has just peeled off the layer beneath and instead of reworking that entire shit-show as a single piece, they're only going to patch the areas marked with the white paint. You can also see the trench fill in the opposing lane where someone came along and wrecked the road surface using a different grade of material and you can also see that the edges of that are not properly sealed, either.

 

If you think thats good, there is a road im my village delaminating on either side due to water ingress, revealing the hardcore (possibly victorian, possibly even medieval) surface below. Although to be fair, thats probably down to the Parish council being bone idle.

 

[rmgill]

When they apply cold patch do the flame the base layer and apply tar? 
 

Here in Georgia, we have a great system of Road construction. The state keeps a tight rein on how it works and even county projects are run pretty well. My feeder road, Lavista is just being resurfaced after a major construction project along its verges. It was resurfaced probably 10 years ago. The need was not due to pot holes but widen of the road and laying of new gas lines previously and new storm drain infrastructure now. 

[Ivanhoe]

[Rick]

Any old Roman roads in use in the U.K.?

[JWB]

 

[sunday]

5 hours ago, Rick said:

Any old Roman roads in use in the U.K.?

In Europe there are modern roads that follow old Roman roads, but I think there is only Via Appia Antica near Rome that keeps the original Roman pavement.

[Stuart Galbraith]

6 hours ago, Rick said:

Any old Roman roads in use in the U.K.?

Yes, quite a few. There is one near me, the Fosse way, that goes right across the country, from Exeter in the Southwest, to Leiceser in the Northeast.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fosse_Way

Its not all in use. There are some chunks that became byways or dirt tracks (In one place they even built an airfield on top of it). But most of it still is.

This guys work is usually pretty interesting.

 

Edited August 3, 2024 by Stuart Galbraith

[Stuart Galbraith]

1 hour ago, sunday said:

In Europe there are modern roads that follow old Roman roads, but I think there is only Via Appia Antica near Rome that keeps the original Roman pavement.

 

Near where I live, the Fosse way passes a stream, which would appear to be the original fording point. you can still see some of the original stones in place, possibly even the flagstones, I dont recall.

 

[Stuart Galbraith]

 

[Stuart Galbraith]

She owns a business and has been identified. Not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

[Rick]

6 hours ago, sunday said:

In Europe there are modern roads that follow old Roman roads, but I think there is only Via Appia Antica near Rome that keeps the original Roman pavement.

Nice Wisteria vine!

[sunday]

Yep, that is a pretty landscape all around.

[Mighty_Zuk]

I'm not going to pretend to know everything that's happening in the UK right now, which political groups are taking part in this, how much of this is grassroots, and how much of that is legitimate protests vs how much is straight up vandalism, but I don't think anyone can label it as unpredictable.

Putting people from 2 entirely opposing cultures in the same place is probably not the best way to avoid a race war.

[JWB]

 

[Mr King]

5 minutes ago, JWB said:

 

There are videos of mobs of migrants armed to the teeth with machetes and big knives in sight of the police and the police not doing a thing to them. I guess they are more concerned with the restless natives.

[rmgill]

longer video. 

 

[Stuart Galbraith]

6 hours ago, Mr King said:

There are videos of mobs of migrants armed to the teeth with machetes and big knives in sight of the police and the police not doing a thing to them. I guess they are more concerned with the restless natives.

Come on Mr King, you smarter than that.

There reason why there is no police present is very simple. They are being run ragged by all the different riots. There were warnings under the Theresa May Government that police cuts would mean there wouldnt be enough police to deal with riots, but they cut anyway. And here we are, nearly 10 years later, and so its proving.

The Government of the day cut 20000 police. Its true, the Conservatives did a major effort to catch up subsequently (although one might suggest the quality of the individuals subsequently recruited may have dropped off somewhat). But the population has grown since that time (Yes, at least in part due to immigration) and the proportion of police to the number of people they must police is still less than it was in 2010. Which was just barely adequate then, as we saw with the 2011 riots.

The police must ALWAYS respond to threats of violence, I do not dispute it. What I dispute is that there are the numbers to do that anymore, particularly on occasions when there is multiple incidents.

 

[Stuart Galbraith]

3 hours ago, rmgill said:

longer video. 

 

Without minimising what happened, its worth contrasting with the 'kill the bill' riots some 2 years ago. In comparison to that, from what I was watching last night, this was pretty small beer.

https://news.sky.com/story/bristol-kill-the-bill-protest-20-officers-injured-two-seriously-by-rioters-who-came-for-fight-with-police-12253360

[Stuart Galbraith]

9 hours ago, Mighty_Zuk said:

I'm not going to pretend to know everything that's happening in the UK right now, which political groups are taking part in this, how much of this is grassroots, and how much of that is legitimate protests vs how much is straight up vandalism, but I don't think anyone can label it as unpredictable.

Putting people from 2 entirely opposing cultures in the same place is probably not the best way to avoid a race war.

In fact, there have been entirely different cultures coexisting with each other in the UK since the 1960's, and we have coexisted perfectly well witht he Jewish community since the 1630's.

But if you want an example of how things can change overnight, you would do well to understand how the Jews were treated in the leadup to the jewish expulsion in 1290 and recognise parallels. IE, there is a murder, rich and powerful people use a racial minority as a scapegoat, then there is an attempt at bloodletting. There are remarkable parallels with how immigrants are now being treated as an explanation for the decline of Britains former industrial areas.

https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/visit/places/cliffords-tower-york/history-and-stories/massacre-of-the-jews/

 

I actually posted this in the gaslighting thread, but I dont suppose anyone there will bother to read it. This is what I believe is the best explanation of what precisely is going on. Particularly the bit about various individuals stirring it up and exploiting the violence.

 

[Mighty_Zuk]

1 hour ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

In fact, there have been entirely different cultures coexisting with each other in the UK since the 1960's, and we have coexisted perfectly well witht he Jewish community since the 1630's.

Bit of an apples to oranges example, don't you think?

I don't really see a similarity between religious intolerance and legitimate fear of being stabbed to death because your wife's beard isn't long enough. One can be accepted over time. The other probably not so much.

Jews always had a culture of assimilation wherever they were. That's quite different from the demonstrations for the islamization and creation of a Sharia state across Europe.

If there is cultural incompatibility, people have the right to not have that forced upon them. It always created tensions and eventually violence.

1 hour ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

But if you want an example of how things can change overnight, you would do well to understand how the Jews were treated in the leadup to the jewish expulsion in 1290 and recognise parallels. IE, there is a murder, rich and powerful people use a racial minority as a scapegoat, then there is an attempt at bloodletting. There are remarkable parallels with how immigrants are now being treated as an explanation for the decline of Britains former industrial areas.

I don't know much about that, but I can see the pro-Hamas, pro-Hezbollah, pro-ISIS demonstrations going on in the UK. I can see the mass violence, mass public prayers. It's all out in the open. If I was a local, I'd be scared to death. And if I had young children that can't bear arms, I'd want to take action as well.

Maybe you could claim that such instances are inflated and over-represented, and that they occur in only certain areas and most of the time everything is peaceful, and that's a legitimate argument. But then, why does it always seem like law enforcement permits it? If it's illegal to be affiliated with a terrorist organization and operate on its behalf on UK soil - why is it not enforced?

1 hour ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

I actually posted this in the gaslighting thread, but I dont suppose anyone there will bother to read it. This is what I believe is the best explanation of what precisely is going on. Particularly the bit about various individuals stirring it up and exploiting the violence.

 

I appreciate it, but I don't have 10 consecutive minutes of free time at any part of the day. Can you perhaps summarize what he says in a few points? I trust you to deliver it in an unbiased format.

Edited August 4, 2024 by Mighty_Zuk