Stuart Galbraith Posted July 17, 2024 Posted July 17, 2024 (edited) Well you say that, but when I was a child of 6, I distinctly remember watching Punch and Judy in school. Yes everyone, in British schools in the 1980's, you could see domestic violence, child abuse and attack by crocodiles acted out in front of children. And hardly any of us grew up and turned out to be wife beating serial killers! So personally, and with the added irritation of my leg feeding back its own personal irritation with existence, this all sounds like a lot of reactionary crap, foisted on us by people busily trying to erect a culture war, and destroying the things, such as an independent cuture, they ostensibly trying to save. Frank, its very boring, and really very tedious. Apologise for my bluntness. Edited July 17, 2024 by Stuart Galbraith
futon Posted July 17, 2024 Posted July 17, 2024 Puppets.. sure Actual hairy chunky men in grandma clothes and bombastic hair.. no please.
Stuart Galbraith Posted July 17, 2024 Posted July 17, 2024 Once again, I think you fail to understand British culture. But then, so do the twats that write for the Telegraph.
Stuart Galbraith Posted July 17, 2024 Posted July 17, 2024 Incidentally, whilst we are on the subject of stage depictions of women (male or otherwise), are the Japanese aware of Gilbert and Sullivan's 'Mikado'?
futon Posted July 17, 2024 Posted July 17, 2024 I don't really know. But at any rate, it's a nichi in the adult world really. I don't think it's suitable for schools. Save it for university topics.
sunday Posted July 17, 2024 Posted July 17, 2024 4 minutes ago, futon said: I don't really know. But at any rate, it's a nichi in the adult world really. I don't think it's suitable for schools. Save it for university topics. Then there is this
futon Posted July 17, 2024 Posted July 17, 2024 37 minutes ago, sunday said: Then there is this I don't really know much about that either but it looks good.
rmgill Posted July 17, 2024 Posted July 17, 2024 4 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said: So what do you do with the 'defects'. Stick them in a big camp so nobody else has to look at them? Where has that been proposed? They’re being used as a tool by the radical left to destabilize society. I know, you’re a Bolshie, you’re ok with that. 4 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said: In you rigid mentality that there can be only 2 sex's, no negotiation, Its a matter of scientific fact. You tried to make it religion, its not like you think. 4 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said: will have that evident outcome if you stick to it as a mantra, in much the same way that doctrine about sterilizing the weak in 19th century medical textbooks in Britain and America, inevitably led to the death camps in Germany. Stuart, the people who have trans surgeries ARE being sterilized. No surgery makes them the other sex. The entire scope of the surgery is cosmetic at best. 4 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said: And no, its not that simple. Imagine being a woman, raised as a woman, understanding your place in society as a woman, and then suddenly imagine finding yourself infertile, and that biological tests reveal you are actually biologically male. I was watching a documentary on this, and a young woman whom found this out was absolutely traumatized by this. Had to see councilling, was deeply upset about it, questioned her entire place in society. Its not so easily brushed away you see. How does that transcend to drag queen story hour with preschoolers who are then exposed to a strip show? 4 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said: Now, here is the point. Imagine she had been born anatomically a man, but spent her entire life understanding she was a woman. This all manifests at puberty. Thats where the apparent details are clear. I have known about these sorts of issues since the ‘80s. I have cited sensitivity to this very issue myself. The solution is a quiet one, not parades and treating them as if they stormed the beaches of Normandy. 4 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said: I dont have to implicitly understand what its like. I do understand through empathy that it must be incredibly painful, traumatic, and even soul destroying. Fine. Rip up the cenotaph. Make it the Trans monument of faux fertility. How does that sit with you? 4 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said: And the only thing that could perhaps make it worse, is the heavy hand of state denying the right to choose whom they want to be, even though the methodology is pretty simple. The heavy hand only goes one way. 4 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said: Yes, Its easy to reject people whom think differently as mentally ill. The Soviet Union did this all the time. Any society that goes down road has the problem, not the individual. Well, dysphoria is a mental illness. Same as anorexia. 4 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said: Here is the circle you must square. You stand up full square for your freedom to own guns. You are defined by your freedom to own guns. You say removing your guns will remove your right to particular freedoms.Yet in the final analysis, you seem perfectly fine removing anyones right to define themselves as they wish. You are asserting and repeating propaganda. Respond to and ridicule the policy proposals I make. Not what you imagine I make in your fever dreams. 4 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said: To use surgery to alter their bodies as they would wish them to be. We don’t allow children to get tattoos but its ok for them to make a decision to be castrated and sterilized? 4 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said: Now you can pull your personal definitions of what is a sex and what isnt out of your ass all day. Personal definitions? You asserted a religious reason, I cited scientific basis and you squirm out on this? And then claim its a personal definition? How Lysenkoist of you Typical. 4 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said: it doesnt really matter, because its not YOUR definitions that are on trial, its theirs. Its their freedoms to define as they would wish, not yours. The fact is you assert a fear of sterilizing a minority and you are in fact actualizing and supporting that very thing. You’ve not thought this through and you’ve been led by the nose. If people want to dress up and be like Bowie and play make believe, fine, but I draw the line at sterilizing and experimenting on children for your personal fetishes, kinks and ideas
EchoFiveMike Posted July 17, 2024 Posted July 17, 2024 You don't make policy on the exceptional. You empower your governing bodies to deal with exceptions exceptionally, you don't allow the nefarious and subversive to manipulate the system via exceptional special pleadings. As has been enfuckerized upon America. S/F...Ken M
sunday Posted July 17, 2024 Posted July 17, 2024 8 minutes ago, EchoFiveMike said: You don't make policy on the exceptional. You empower your governing bodies to deal with exceptions exceptionally, you don't allow the nefarious and subversive to manipulate the system via exceptional special pleadings. As has been enfuckerized upon America. S/F...Ken M Exactly. Those charged with applying the law should have discretion to adapt it to exceptional cases.
old_goat Posted July 17, 2024 Posted July 17, 2024 @Stuart Galbraith Watch this. The hard truth, from a real trans, Blaire White, no matter how sad it is for you:
Stuart Galbraith Posted July 17, 2024 Posted July 17, 2024 Well if you are going to start yanking videos out of left field without description, you can watch one of mine too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlxn3F2tIWg
Stuart Galbraith Posted July 17, 2024 Posted July 17, 2024 38 minutes ago, JWB said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aneuploidy Thanks, thats very interesting.
rmgill Posted July 17, 2024 Posted July 17, 2024 (edited) 4 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said: Well if you are going to start yanking videos out of left field without description, you can watch one of mine too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlxn3F2tIWg You pull your arguments out of left field. You accused of religious dogmas and then when I made a scientific argument you crabbed away. Be more honest. Let me ask again, do trans people make the gametes of the other sex, ie the one of their new sex? Do you understand that their new genitals are barely functional? How many Trans people have you dealt with over the past 30 years? Edited July 17, 2024 by rmgill
Stuart Galbraith Posted July 18, 2024 Posted July 18, 2024 (edited) A scalpel is scientific too, or have you failed to make the obvious connection between sexual reassignment and surgery? You are actually denying the physical reality of something thats already happened, for what reason? Because a God you dont believe in objects to it? You arent asking me any questions. You are lecturing me. All Ive done over the last 2 pages is call for empathy and toleration, as if that was some kind of unique observation Around here, perhaps it is. Ive not even demanded agreement with their demands, just an attempt to try and get inside their head and view the world as they see it. And you cant even manage that. You refuse to employ empathy, because you really arent interested in anyone elses opinion but your own. You attack anything that you find personally offensive to your doctrinal responses, straight out of the MAGA playbook. Half the time you are ranting at pure assumptions you make about me, not even things ive actually said, let alone believe. If its a bore for me, and im sure its a bore for everyone else to read. You are impossible to reason with, impossible to debate with. Go off and circle jerk with someone else that reinforces your personal worldview, because im done with trying to talk toleration and moderation into you. Edited July 18, 2024 by Stuart Galbraith
rmgill Posted July 18, 2024 Posted July 18, 2024 (edited) 6 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said: A scalpel is scientific too, or have you failed to make the obvious connection between sexual reassignment and surgery? Not in the hands of Dr Mengele. You were VERY alarmed at the idea of sterilization. You're advocating just exactly the same thing. You do, as you often do, contradict yourself in your own argument. A scalpel is also a weapon and in the hands of a bad doctor a tool of torture and wrong. Doctors are first to do no harm. Consigning someone to added problems later in life AND increased risk of cancers (the hormone therapies do just that) is arguably harm. 6 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said: You are actually denying the physical reality of something thats already happened, for what reason? Because a God you dont believe in objects to it? What thing am I denying? 6 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said: You arent asking me any questions. You are lecturing me. All Ive done over the last 2 pages is call for empathy and toleration, Sterlization is not empathy. Giving a child what they think they want no matter what is not empathy. A child wants a drink of scotch and cries if he cannot get it, is that empathy to give it when its harmful? You were lecturing when you made an accusation of religious dogma. Then I asked about the scientific nature of it all, you've still not answered. What gametes does this third sex make? Do trans people have the ability to make gametes of their new gender? You cited Herms but you failed to note that they're semi-herm, not true, they cannot make eggs AND sperm. 6 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said: Ive not even demanded agreement with their demands, just an attempt to try and get inside their head and view the world as they see it. No, you accused us of failing to be sympathetic if we don't go along with what ever is demanded and that it's part and parcel of imprisonment and sterilization. 6 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said: And you cant even manage that. You refuse to employ empathy, because you really arent interested in anyone elses opinion but your own. Then you've not read my posts on the subject. I think I've a lot closer to a number of trans people over the decades tahn you have been. Simply by way of my circle of friends in the other sub-cultures I hang out in. 6 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said: You attack anything that you find personally offensive to your doctrinal responses, straight out of the MAGA playbook. Bull crap, you're projecting. And yes, I DO find pedophilia offensive and it's promotion is wrong. Sexual grooming by adults of children is wrong. By teachers is wrong. Getting to know younger kids specifically to talk about sex with them is creepy as fuck. Your hentai manga aren't a good guidepost for morality. 6 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said: Half the time you are ranting at pure assumptions you make about me, not even things ive actually said, let alone believe. If its a bore for me, and im sure its a bore for everyone else to read. Again, nonsense. I've made clear points about the science that you refused to address. 6 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said: You are impossible to reason with, impossible to debate with. Go off and circle jerk with someone else that reinforces your personal worldview, because im done with trying to talk toleration and moderation into you. Nice choice of words. You're not talking moderation and toleration. You're talking sexual grooming and promotion of sterilization of kids pre-and during puberty in ways that will destroy their lives. For one, they'll NEVER have a rewarding sex life as a trans person. Edited July 18, 2024 by rmgill
sunday Posted July 18, 2024 Posted July 18, 2024 (edited) Looks like this topic gets under the skin of some people more than usual. I wonder why. Edited July 18, 2024 by sunday
Stuart Galbraith Posted July 18, 2024 Posted July 18, 2024 Its the daily heil, so mild irritaton equals 'Oh my God, its a coup!'
DB Posted July 19, 2024 Posted July 19, 2024 On 7/15/2024 at 9:45 PM, rmgill said: So which regional accent is that? It seems to be Burnley, Lancashire. Several sources say Yorkshire, but that's definitely wrong. It's not as easy as it used to be to do a "Henry Higgins" due to increased mobility and the pervasiveness of spoken media, which causes most accents to flatten somewhat, but it's likely that someone from the North West would still be able to say which town/city a local was from (and if they're from 10 miles away, they're not really considered "local" in the UK, so I'm using that in a more American scale sense.)
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