Because The United Kingdom?

[TrustMe]

In the UK if the Border Force find out that an employer has employed illegal immigrants in the work place they get a £20,000 fine per person. Yet what you find is that they will keep employing immigrants again and again even with the fines  

Edited July 7, 2024 by TrustMe

[futon]

Illegals in Japan surged in the 1990s to 250,000 to 300,000 people. Since then it was a downward trend. To about 70,000 by 2015.

https://hakusyo1.moj.go.jp/jp/66/nfm/n66_2_4_9_1_2.html

It's slowly raised since then though, to the current approximate  80,000.

https://www.moj.go.jp/isa/publications/press/13_00037.html#:~:text=第３表－-,令和５年７月１日現在の,２％）増加しました。

The UK probably has over 10 times the current amount in Japan.

[rmgill]

7 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Perhaps we could copy your successful model of Corregador instead.

 Corregidor wasn’t our homeland. And we took it back. 

[rmgill]

1 hour ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

I dont disagree, but the problem with Britain, generations of politicians have successfully conflated Illegal and unwarranted immigration, with legal and necessary immigration and refuges. Its so muddied the waters, its incredibly difficult to have an intelligent conversation about.

Haven’t you done this yourself when discussing this and diversity? 

[Stuart Galbraith]

19 minutes ago, rmgill said:

 Corregidor wasn’t our homeland. And we took it back. 

You noticed the distinct lack of Nazi's in Dunkirk, right?

 

19 minutes ago, rmgill said:

Haven’t you done this yourself when discussing this and diversity? 

Nope, not in the slightest. Glad to help you out there. 👍

 

[JWB]

 

[Stuart Galbraith]

Considering how badly the Conservatives (which never even managed to form a Government without coalition in 2010) has managed to do over the past 14 years, that is absolutely hilarious.

What they really mean is 'None of them went to Eton', and thank God for that. They certainly are experienced in life, which frankly I think rather more valuable than being a production line upper class twat.

Edited July 7, 2024 by Stuart Galbraith

[rmgill]

3 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

You noticed the distinct lack of Nazi's in Dunkirk, right?

No Nazis in the Philippines either. 

 

3 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Nope, not in the slightest. Glad to help you out there. 👍

 

 

Funny you seem to be doing it here:

When illegal immigration comes up you just delineate it as immigrants. 

If it's illegals who demand asylum they get re-cast as immigrants or migrants. 

Like here:

 

Edited July 7, 2024 by rmgill

[Der Zeitgeist]

[Ivanhoe]

[Stuart Galbraith]

11 hours ago, rmgill said:

No Nazis in the Philippines either. 

 

 

Funny you seem to be doing it here:

When illegal immigration comes up you just delineate it as immigrants. 

If it's illegals who demand asylum they get re-cast as immigrants or migrants. 

Like here:

 

Ryan, like New Ingsoc you will happily rewrite the narrative to whatever form suits you. Im aware that my correcting you every time you are talking complete bollocks calls irritation to fellow posters, so Im afraid this time you are just going to have to wallow in happy ignorance. Good luck with that.

[Stuart Galbraith]

9 hours ago, Der Zeitgeist said:

 

We arent going to rejoin. We MAY rejoin the customs union, and frankly I think we should. And working on foreign policy, seeing as we all live in Europe, strikes me as a pretty good idea too.

In the end, its a choice between running a country based on ideological crap, and not. Im rather surprised actually, this seems, thus far at least, to be the least ideological Labour Cabinent in decades. The only thing they seem to be driven by is stopping industrial closures, and driving industrial growth. Which you know, you kinda figured was the Conservatives job.

[Yama]

On 7/2/2024 at 6:38 PM, bojan said:

Haggis (and local version) are "not really hungry people food" compared to Nordic fish specialties.

[bojan]

I could stand (not like it..., but it was survivable) a taste of surstromming, but not lutefisk. First one tastes like fish that has gone slightly bad, other tastes like fish flavored soap...

[rmgill]

Fish flavored soap… probably a market for that in Japan. 

[bojan]

And ofc, I have to try Icelandic specialty one day.  

[lucklucky]

Lammy, the dumb guy that said Trump was KKK, Nazi despite having long time black business partners and a daughter married to a Jew. It will be fun if he is elected President. Also demonstrates Starmer choice level and the pool he can choose from..

Edited July 8, 2024 by lucklucky

[TrustMe]

For the Americans among us. He will be a first term President twice. Does that mean he can run again for the third time or not?

[Tim Sielbeck]

30 minutes ago, TrustMe said:

For the Americans among us. He will be a first term President twice. Does that mean he can run again for the third time or not?

Grover Cleveland served as the 22nd and 24th president of the United States from 1885 to 1889 and from 1893 to 1897. He is the only U.S. president to serve non-consecutive presidential terms.

 

And no, he can only serve two terms in total. "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice..."

[rmgill]

40 minutes ago, TrustMe said:

For the Americans among us. He will be a first term President twice. Does that mean he can run again for the third time or not?

He is interesting like Theodore Roosevelt was. TR was a bit of a progressive, despite his bellicose nature. Sort of like Trump is. 

And no, Two terms total. 

 

Section 1

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

 

 

[TrustMe]

Thanks fella's that's cleared thing's up.

[Stuart Galbraith]

10 hours ago, Tim Sielbeck said:

Grover Cleveland served as the 22nd and 24th president of the United States from 1885 to 1889 and from 1893 to 1897. He is the only U.S. president to serve non-consecutive presidential terms.

 

And no, he can only serve two terms in total. "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice..."

There is no rule laid down that cant be repealed of course...

Besides, there is a significant ambiguity that should be pointed out, one to be aware of in light of the constitutional shenanigans Vladimir Putin indulged in to get around a similar rule.

https://cornerstonelaw.us/22nd-amendment-doesnt-say-think-says/

'But an interesting ambiguity resulted. The 22^nd Amendment only requires that someone not be elected to the Presidency more than twice. Someone who was elected to two terms on his own is still eligible to be Vice President and to rise to the Presidency upon the death, resignation or removal of the President.

If we review the 12^th Amendment, we find that there is a requirement that the Vice President must be eligible to become President. This has led many to conclude that someone who has already been “termed out” as President could not serve as Vice President; however, this does not appear to be correct. The 12^th Amendment only requires that an individual who is ineligible to become President cannot be Vice President. It does not say that someone who is ineligible to be elected President could not be Vice President. Accordingly, the 22^nd Amendment leaves open a loophole that an individual could be elected to the Vice Presidency (or the Speakership of the House), then rise to the Presidency.

In a time of concern, perhaps the Nation could call on a former two-term President by electing him as Vice President even with the knowledge that the plan all along was for the President to resign immediately upon taking Office. This might violate the spirit of the Amendment, but it does not violate its letter.'

Edited July 9, 2024 by Stuart Galbraith

[Soren Ras]

Nah,would not work in the US.

Too Russian.

[Stuart Galbraith]

Not wishing to turn this into yet another Trump thread, im just illustrating, no system is immune from someone messing with it, if they have that kind of thing on their mind. I say that as someone that thinks Prime ministers should be limited to 10 years (if of course, any can make it that far, which hasnt been exactly common of late).

Edited July 9, 2024 by Stuart Galbraith

[Ssnake]

German chancellors heard laughing from across the hallway.