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Not far from what happens in the EU, but here there are farm subsidies, still.

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This show has done more for environmentalism than Just Stop Oil ever will, no fear mongering no virtue signalling, just the problems and solutions explained without condescension or accusation. 
Its great for getting the every man on bored with the idea, without frustrating him in to opposition, the way blocking traffic would.
The fact that Jeremy Clarkson and Amazon are the people behind it is pretty stunning to me.

 

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1 hour ago, sunday said:

Not far from what happens in the EU, but here there are farm subsidies, still.

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Well, it's real environmentalism, not stupid acts that fly in the face of humanity itself. 

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1 minute ago, rmgill said:

Well, it's real environmentalism, not stupid acts that fly in the face of humanity itself. 

Of course, the NIMBYers in the zone that live from their pensions or their businesses in London want to curb development and jobs in the name of preserving the views from their backyards.

Farming friend once told me that farming country is a workplace, not an aristocratic park. 

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Ive lived in the countryside for 51 years. I walk my dog in it every day. I walk through a farm that is over 600 years old every day,  and now is employs nobody, because its owned by a big landowner from 40 miles away whom is busy running it into the ground. I live in a village old enough to be mentioned in the Domesday book. I see the problems.

I submit, I probably know more about the rural environment  and its mismanagement and problems, than a smug prick that bought his way into it in the aftermath with a fist fight in a pub and was looking for a new career.

Clarkson is a broadcaster, and very entertaining as far as it goes. It doesn't follow it make him an expert on anything but watchable television.  You shouldn't credit him as such.

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8 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Ive lived in the countryside for 51 years. I walk my dog in it every day. I walk through a farm that is over 600 years old every day,  and now is employs nobody, because its owned by a big landowner from 40 miles away whom is busy running it into the ground. I live in a village old enough to be mentioned in the Domesday book. I see the problems.

I submit, I probably know more about the rural environment  and its mismanagement and problems, than a smug prick that bought his way into it in the aftermath with a fist fight in a pub and was looking for a new career.

Clarkson is a broadcaster, and very entertaining as far as it goes. It doesn't follow it make him an expert on anything but watchable television.  You shouldn't credit him as such.

What has that got to do with the price of eggs? You walk your dog through the woods makes zero argument for your point about knowledge what so ever. 

You’re really good at whinging about what other people do with their own property but seem short on action on your own accord. 

Go deal with a pond or sort out your local badger problem. Hell, go work for the local canal trust. 
 

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5 hours ago, rmgill said:

what has that got tondo with the price of eggs? You walk your dog through the woods makes zero argument for your point about knowledge what so ever. 

You’re really good at whinging about what other people do with their own property but seem short on action on your own accord. 

Go deal with a pond or sort out your local badger problem. Hell, go work for the local canal trust. 
 

I think we could have an idea of some of the dynamics at play in the village councils populated by non-farming residents.

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9 hours ago, rmgill said:

What has that got to do with the price of eggs? You walk your dog through the woods makes zero argument for your point about knowledge what so ever. 

You’re really good at whinging about what other people do with their own property but seem short on action on your own accord. 

Go deal with a pond or sort out your local badger problem. Hell, go work for the local canal trust. 
 

Im really good at whinging about people whom know the square root of fuck all, and sound off like they are loud experts on the subject, of which there are many on this grate site, particularly when they talk about the UK.

Clarkson has been a farmer for barely 3 and a half years, now suddenly he is an expert you admire and listen to? And doesnt that just sum up the western world. We listen to 'experts' whom are experts in their own minds only.

Tell you what im doing Ryan. Right now I took clippings off the 500 year old tree that stood in our village and was unceremoniously brought down,, and trying heaven and earth to raise its successors. I dont shout about it, I dont make TV programmes about it. But if im successful (a very large if at the moment) im going to plant them around the periphery of our village so it can watch over it hopefully for the next 500 years.  There. So what are you doing?

 

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This critique of the foreign office by former defence secretary Ben Wallace is well worth a read. It illustrates to a large degree just why Britain is failing.

 

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5 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Clarkson has been a farmer for barely 3 and a half years, now suddenly he is an expert you admire and listen to?

Expert no. Leading advocate for? Sure. Thats why his fellow farmers said he was doing more for illustrating problems than anyone has in a long time. Including the BBC. 
 

 

5 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

And doesnt that just sum up the western world. We listen to 'experts' whom are experts in their own minds only.

Stuart your E’xperts’ think we can go full electric by 2030 and carbon neutral by 2050. They do none of the things to really enable that short of drawing the economies of the west down. 
 

 

5 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Tell you what im doing Ryan. Right now I took clippings off the 500 year old tree that stood in our village and was unceremoniously brought down,, and trying heaven and earth to raise its successors. I dont shout about it, I dont make TV programmes about it. But if im successful (a very large if at the moment) im going to plant them around the periphery of our village so it can watch over it hopefully for the next 500 years.  There. So what are you doing?

 

Not bitching about my neighbors cutting trees down that were struck by lightning. 

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12 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Speaking for my time in School, we never really discussed Britain in history. We spent more time on the American Wild West. :D

 

Heck, our history books now just barely mention WWII. Anything before that is treated as myth or legend rather than documented happenings.

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