lucklucky Posted November 5, 2023 Posted November 5, 2023 (edited) Question: since protesting in Remembrance Day is very offensive more than Sharon visiting the Al Aqsa, does the media justify and defend a British Intifada against Hamas supporters like they did? Edited November 5, 2023 by lucklucky
rmgill Posted November 5, 2023 Posted November 5, 2023 10 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said: What I DO NOT understand, is why the Police complain when Israeli flags are flown, or posters of Hamas hostages torn down, but by and large you can get away with saying 'from the river to the sea, all palestine will be free'. Which is an explicit statement of the destruction of the state of Israel that ive seen. And if you are a palestinian supporter, you can fly a flag damn near anywhere apparently. I've seen footage of the Plods taking the Union Jacks. PJW posted a more full sequence. It's simple. Theres more pro-pally protestors than there are police. They're outnumbered and they're cowed by the crowd. 10 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said: Yes, as always the police have a thankless task, if they go hard, they damage civil liberties. If they go soft, they are seen as pro palestinian. They're keeping order. If it means victimizing the minority in their view who are Pro-Israeli Pro-British then they'll do that.
Ivanhoe Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 20 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said: Who would want it? There is no tea. There used to be, but the natives got upset at tariffs and dumped it all into the canals.
Stuart Galbraith Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 3 hours ago, Ivanhoe said: There used to be, but the natives got upset at tariffs and dumped it all into the canals.
Stuart Galbraith Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 12 hours ago, rmgill said: I've seen footage of the Plods taking the Union Jacks. PJW posted a more full sequence. It's simple. Theres more pro-pally protestors than there are police. They're outnumbered and they're cowed by the crowd. They're keeping order. If it means victimizing the minority in their view who are Pro-Israeli Pro-British then they'll do that. But they always will be. I can point to the London riots in 2011. It was not because they couldnt get enough manpower to police the capitol, they could easily draw on the county forces to suppliment. Its because nobody in the MET seemed to ask for them in time, because they seemed unable to believe there was a threat that might require it. I seem to recall they had received offers of help and had rebuffed them. Well we saw it before. I remember reading in the Battle of Cable street, the police were on the side of Mosley's men, eithr because they thought they were natural winners, or they just couldnt stand with the jews. I dont believe they are racist now, at least not towards Jews.But I think its a similar mindset that dictated how they behaved in Rotherham. They saw a racial powderkeg, and took the easy way out. They usually do.
Stuart Galbraith Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 Yeah well, once again, in not disagreeing. Supposedly from what I heard the other day, the head of the MET was 'begging' the protestors to cancel their march on remembrance sunday. He has absolutely no powers to stop any march, unless he believes it will result in the destruction of property or civil disorder. Which yes, is perhaps fair enough, I dont like civil liberties being curtailed either.. Except yeah, why did anyone give them permission to march in the first place on that day, just a mile away from the Cenotaph? Im putting it down to either appeasement or incompetence. Neither are exactly unknown to the British establishment.
Ivanhoe Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 5 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said: Im putting it down to either appeasement or incompetence. Neither are exactly unknown to the British establishment.
Stuart Galbraith Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 Well... as far as Wortmans Razor, that does cover a lot of local Government, in fairness.
sunday Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 Quote "Rule, Britannia! rule the waves: "Britons never will be slaves."
lucklucky Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 Never attribute to corruption what can be explained by ideology.
Stuart Galbraith Posted November 8, 2023 Posted November 8, 2023 https://uk.yahoo.com/style/elderly-poppy-seller-punched-kicked-015947877.html
Ivanhoe Posted November 8, 2023 Posted November 8, 2023 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12712683/Hard-Left-activist-led-river-sea-chant-pro-Palestine-rally-Met-Police-adviser-leadership-coordinator-Scotland-Yard-says-support-Israel-investigated-hate-crime.html Quote A hard-Left activist who led chants of 'from the river to the sea' at a pro-Palestine rally is a Met Police adviser. Lawyer Attiq Malik is the chairman of London Communities Forum - a 'strategic advisory body' for Scotland Yard which helps to 'shape police policy and procedure at a strategic level'. . Quote In what could be further embarrassment for the force, Amina Ahmed, who describes herself on her LinkedIn page as a 'leadership program facilitator and project manager' at the Met Police, appears to have made calls for those who support Israel to be investigated for a 'hate crime'. In an edited comment posted in her name, she wrote: 'I think at this point, if anyone openly agrees with the war in Gaza, they should be called out as Islamophobic and inciting hatred against Muslims.'
lucklucky Posted November 8, 2023 Posted November 8, 2023 (edited) The long Islamic march through the UK institutions. Edited November 8, 2023 by lucklucky
sunday Posted November 8, 2023 Posted November 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, lucklucky said: The long Islamic march through the UK institutions. Posting about the Rotherham case was enough to get life-banned from Twitter.
Stuart Galbraith Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 Promises of tougher sentences, and at the same time they are letting criminals out early because someone didnt invest in the necessary prison space over the past 13 years.
TrustMe Posted November 9, 2023 Posted November 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said: Promises of tougher sentences, and at the same time they are letting criminals out early because someone didnt invest in the necessary prison space over the past 13 years. Yeah I thought that was stupid too. What's the point in sending people to prison only to release them a quater or less the way in due to over crowding .
Stuart Galbraith Posted November 11, 2023 Posted November 11, 2023 So hands up, who said Brexit was going to be a stunning success overnight, and the British economy would never look back? Not me. In one respect this is actually an excellent thing. There are increasing reports of a rennaisance in British manufacturing, not least in batteries and electric cars. Which to me suggests the historic 'financial' economy is floundering because China no longer needs loans, and the wider industrial economy (with Chinese investment no less) is starting to step up. In the interim, the economy flounders. I wouldnt be surprised if we are in for a decade of stagnation, just as the Japanese were. Its going to take a decade to fix the decade of mistakes the last 5 Prime Ministers have made.
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