Because The United Kingdom?

[bojan]

8 hours ago, JWB said:

Rishi is the job. The war is all but won !

What is your definition of "victory"?

[Ivanhoe]

2 minutes ago, bojan said:

What is your definition of "victory"?

When the newspapers declare it, obviously. 

 

[JWB]

17 minutes ago, bojan said:

What is your definition of "victory"?

It was a joke.

[bojan]

Well, my question was also partially joke, and Ivanhoe got it

[JWB]

 

[TrustMe]

I wonder if tourists will not come to the UK in the future if they cannot smoke?

[urbanoid]

1 hour ago, TrustMe said:

I wonder if tourists will not come to the UK in the future if they cannot smoke?

I certainly won't, it would be too traumatic.

[Stuart Galbraith]

Its not going to happen. Even if the Conservatives get a second term, and my guess is they wont, they wont get one after that which is what would be needed for such absurd policies to get hold.

This is the party that cant even enforce a return to Fox Hunting, despite seemingly wanting to. Can you really see them pissing off millions of Britons by requiring the use of an ID to get cigarettes? Its absurd. Absurd and populist. Unfortunately for Populist policies to get hold, they have to be popular, and this simply isnt.

Poor old Rish, he really is flailing around, desperately trying to make himself popular. Its sad being a wingnut that nobody likes.

 

[Stuart Galbraith]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/government-u-turn-on-hs2-alternatives-less-than-24-hours-after-announcement/ar-AA1hKzib?ocid=BingHp01&cvid=5e47f5a4a3664e7dd2f83b42a4ed6d0f&ei=16

 

Mr Sunak unveiled plans to reopen the Leamside line in the North East as one of those projects.

The 21-mile line from Pelaw in Gateshead to Tursdale in County Durham, which closed in 1964, had been described as the “most important piece of infrastructure for the economic future of the North East” by Transport North East.

But just a day after Mr Sunak committed to the line on Wednesday, all reference to its reopening was removed from the Network North website. Transport minister Richard Holden said the government had committed only to “looking into” the scheme.

Henri Murison, chief executive of the Northern Powerhouse Partnership, said: “If this is what they have done and they have gone back on their word, how can we believe anything else that they have said in the last week? How can the prime minister have any credibility on the commitments he has made?

“If they don’t honour their commitments made on this, it would be significant evidence of a betrayal of the north of England.”

Kim McGuinness, the police and crime commissioner for Northumbria, said: “The prime minister’s promise to the North East didn’t even last 24 hours – only a fool would trust Rishi Sunak again.”

 

 

[DB]

15 hours ago, urbanoid said:

I certainly won't, it would be too traumatic.

I'm assuming that you're not under the age of 15, so you'd be unaffected.

And as we're not in the EU, you could buy a big pack of cigarettes duty free (it used to be 200 cigarettes) on the way over here to avoid the punitive taxes that are already here.

[DB]

Commer (and most of the minor manufacturers mentioned by Ryan) were purchased by Chrysler when they bought the Rootes Group in 1967, so that predates the 1970s industrial self-immolation.

 

[sunday]

16 hours ago, urbanoid said:

I certainly won't, it would be too traumatic.

Looks like you will not be visiting Singapore, either - their anti-vaping policy led me to the longest period without vaping/smoking since I began using nicotine, but also helped me to be less dependent on vaping.

[TrustMe]

17 hours ago, urbanoid said:

I certainly won't, it would be too traumatic.

As an ex-smoker I can understand how you feel.

[Harold Jones]

2 hours ago, DB said:

I'm assuming that you're not under the age of 15, so you'd be unaffected.

And as we're not in the EU, you could buy a big pack of cigarettes duty free (it used to be 200 cigarettes) on the way over here to avoid the punitive taxes that are already here.

Do they have a plan to replace the tax revenue? I remember when Colorado raised the cigarette tax and ended up with a revenue loss because it triggered a portion of the tax base to quit or find other ways to get their nicotine fix.

[Stuart Galbraith]

They will probably end up taxing vaping...

[urbanoid]

8 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

They will probably end up taxing vaping breathing...

FIFY

[Stuart Galbraith]

This is fair. This is after all the only country I know that successfully taxed windows...

[DB]

4 hours ago, Harold Jones said:

Do they have a plan to replace the tax revenue? I remember when Colorado raised the cigarette tax and ended up with a revenue loss because it triggered a portion of the tax base to quit or find other ways to get their nicotine fix.

Probably not. They will almost certainly hide it in an energy tax to ensure that electric cars don't stay cheaper to run than petrol.

[sunday]

6 hours ago, urbanoid said:

FIFY

The different CO2 taxes enacted with the excuse of climate change could be seen as a tax on breathing.

[rmgill]

On 10/5/2023 at 3:01 PM, TrustMe said:

I wonder if tourists will not come to the UK in the future if they cannot smoke?

They will just smoke pot instead. 

[JWB]

Saviour of the torys

 

[Stuart Galbraith]

Wish he had been in southern Israel, he might have learned something.

Edited October 10, 2023 by Stuart Galbraith

[TrustMe]

He was a pacifist, you can't have a country run by a pacifist.

[rmgill]

One wonders if there were pacifistic religious nuts in the ancient world who wanted to open city gates for barbarians intent upon rapine, slaughter and murder. 

[Stuart Galbraith]

Well the Chinese did open the gates of the Great wall, to allow invaders from the North in. But that was because the people revolted, and they figured a bit of rape and murder was ideal for a bit of attitude adjustment. Strange sense of humour the Chinese.

I've always been of the opinion, fwiw,it's fine to have unfashionable  principles. It's only unreasonable when you make other people suffer for them.