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1 hour ago, Colin said:

The US healthcare is excellent if you have money or insurance. Canada healthcare system is grossly expensive for the result it provides and is starting to fail. Both systems have their plus and minuses. Personally I admire the Malaysians who have seemed to be able to have a full public and full private system running in parallel, with people jumping from one to another as needed. Their public system suffers from the same issues that all public systems do. Shortages of specialists, long wait times. I have no direct experience with any European system, put I suspect that every public system rations healthcare either openly or behind the curtain and always lacks specialists. The problem in Canada is that we made healthcare part of our national religion and identity, so you can't have any reasonable debate on it, without being attacked.   

It's different per country.

In the UK the National Health Service has been crippled by 12 years of cuts and then Covid to the point were people are dying in ambulences whilist waiting to be let into hosptial. Now we have nurses striking for better pay after been offered a 3% increase (inflation is 10.1%). However i'll state that most British citizens would not like a US style system. My mum, who had breast cancer 12 months ago was treated within 2 weeks of after being diagnosed and has now fully recovered. That's quite good for the UK.

I know a bit about the French system which is similar to the UK's income tax funded system. However upto pre Covid there system was fully funded and waiting times were almost non existent. It's a really good system but the French people pay a lot more tax to fund it.

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9 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

They get the year wrong, they spell 'Labour' wrong, they even get 'Attlee' wrong. They even throw us this pearler

'77% of Americans living in poverty have air conditioning, a luxury item in Europe'.

Firstly, unless you are living in the Arizona desert, there is always the option of opening a window, which most European Mud huts are suitably equipped with these days. Secondly, there is always the option of going to Tesco's and buying a 'fan'. Which due to the discovery of a really cheap workforce in China, with the possible exception of anyone living on the street, anyone is going to own.

Im really impressed at the level of research. You can really tell they spent all of 5 minuites on Wikipedia.

I don't live in Arizona and have had homes with just windows and a fan in summer.  It sucks and I'm now too old to want to tough it out.  I'm very glad the apartment I have now has decent air conditoning.  Of course, like most of North America, what we consider a mild springf day is a dangerous heat wave in Britain. and if you have a new building with a modern heating system, it's easily switched to cooling in summer.

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9 hours ago, Murph said:

Agreed!

I find incredibly ironic that with all diverse and good food there is in the US, it is "junk level" US food that has truly "conquered the world". :(

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There's diverse and good food almost everywhere to be found (except when there's a famine on), so everything good coming from anywhere needs to compete with everything that's good everywhere already.

US fast food on the other hand was a disruptive concept, that's why it conquered the world (well, up to a point; McDonald's is the biggest fast food chain there is and it delivers about 3% of the world's daily calory intake - which is "really a lot", and "not that much actually" at the same time). The disruption is not the fast delivery, or at least not alone. It simply offers the psychological anchor of a standardized meal, no matter where you are. A Big Mac in Rome won't be better than a Big Mac in Atlanta. But it won't be worse either. Nobody came up with this concept before.

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2 hours ago, Ssnake said:

There's diverse and good food almost everywhere to be found (except when there's a famine on), so everything good coming from anywhere needs to compete with everything that's good everywhere already.

US fast food on the other hand was a disruptive concept, that's why it conquered the world (well, up to a point; McDonald's is the biggest fast food chain there is and it delivers about 3% of the world's daily calory intake - which is "really a lot", and "not that much actually" at the same time). The disruption is not the fast delivery, or at least not alone. It simply offers the psychological anchor of a standardized meal, no matter where you are. A Big Mac in Rome won't be better than a Big Mac in Atlanta. But it won't be worse either. Nobody came up with this concept before.

That is a very good point.  Predictability of taste/service/etc.

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That's the popint why they have all these kids-friendly birthday parties etc., to imprint a positive childhood memory to which people will go back for the rest of their lives whenever contemplating a Big Mac, or some alternative.

Even if you see through it as an adult later, a positive childhood memory is a positive childhood memory. You just don't wipe that.

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9 hours ago, R011 said:

I don't live in Arizona and have had homes with just windows and a fan in summer.  It sucks and I'm now too old to want to tough it out.  I'm very glad the apartment I have now has decent air conditoning.  Of course, like most of North America, what we consider a mild springf day is a dangerous heat wave in Britain. and if you have a new building with a modern heating system, it's easily switched to cooling in summer.

I live in a 170 year old Cottage. Its stone soaks up the heat, so it turns into an oven in a hot summer, and in winter the same effect turns it into an icebox. Not only do we not have air conditioning (and try and get planning permission to bolt one of those carbuncles onto a 170 year old cottage anyway) but a couple of fan units suffices. And I say that after having summered possibly one of the hottest summers in the UK in 50 years.

Im not saying Americans dont need it. Im just suggesting, you have never missed what you never had.

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50 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

I live in a 170 year old Cottage. Its stone soaks up the heat, so it turns into an oven in a hot summer, and in winter the same effect turns it into an icebox. Not only do we not have air conditioning (and try and get planning permission to bolt one of those carbuncles onto a 170 year old cottage anyway) but a couple of fan units suffices. And I say that after having summered possibly one of the hottest summers in the UK in 50 years.

Im not saying Americans dont need it. Im just suggesting, you have never missed what you never had.

"(and try and get planning permission to bolt one of those carbuncles onto a 170 year old cottage anyway)" ? 

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Imagine something like this.

split-system-air-conditioning.jpg

Bolted onto the side of something like this.

cotswold-village-of-adlestrop-gloucester

 

And you can see the problem. Not that my house is quite that idylic. But closer than some. We couldnt even have a satellite dish bolted on the front of our house for the same reason.

 

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2 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Imagine something like this.

split-system-air-conditioning.jpg

Bolted onto the side of something like this.

cotswold-village-of-adlestrop-gloucester

 

And you can see the problem. Not that my house is quite that idylic. But closer than some. We couldnt even have a satellite dish bolted on the front of our house for the same reason.

 

Is this due to the work effort needed to install said air conditioner?

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10 hours ago, Ssnake said:

There's diverse and good food almost everywhere to be found (except when there's a famine on), so everything good coming from anywhere needs to compete with everything that's good everywhere already.

US fast food on the other hand was a disruptive concept, that's why it conquered the world (well, up to a point; McDonald's is the biggest fast food chain there is and it delivers about 3% of the world's daily calory intake - which is "really a lot", and "not that much actually" at the same time). The disruption is not the fast delivery, or at least not alone. It simply offers the psychological anchor of a standardized meal, no matter where you are. A Big Mac in Rome won't be better than a Big Mac in Atlanta. But it won't be worse either. Nobody came up with this concept before.

Actually Americans visiting Australia have commented that Australian McDonalds IS different to US McDonalds.

 

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Yes, and Chinese one is different, friend says that everything is so weirdly sweet. Local one is also claimed by some USians to be different, and "tastes better*" but that is all basically comparing various turds.

*Probably due the using less lean beef, only real way to make burgers taste better. :)

 

OTOH it is all about the same "quality". In the '60/70s with more wonky health and safety standards that was attractive concept. Now it is for "adult children" that don't want to try anything new in their lives and live in their childhood nostalgia bubbles.

 

AFAIK locally McD is really struggling, with closure of the multiple restaurants. Because simple fact it is neither cheaper nor actually better than a local street "pljeskavica", and novelty factor has worn off long time ago. ATM it's real victims target group is kids/young adults who don't know better, but most seem to grow out of it.

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1 hour ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

...Bolted onto the side of something like this...

There are already TV antennas, indoor plumbing and electricity, so fake 19th century ideal is already lost. :)

 

 

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2 hours ago, DougRichards said:

Actually Americans visiting Australia have commented that Australian McDonalds IS different to US McDonalds.

 

McDonalds sources ingredients locally more or less and they do adjust seasonings and menu items toward local tastes so the taste varies with location, but a big mac is broadly a big mac no matter where you get one.  McDonalds isn't the best burger you can get, but it is far from the worst. It's never my first choice but sometimes it's the only one available especially on long road trips.  

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2 hours ago, bojan said:

There are already TV antennas, indoor plumbing and electricity, so fake 19th century ideal is already lost. :)

 

 

Believe me, there are some people around here that would if they could have us wearing a White smock, chewing on straw and pulling our forelocks for our betters as they pass by on horseback. For example, It was only a couple of decades ago the front pews in Church was reserved for the local owner of the Castle.Yes, it really is that feudal.

I truly love living here, but Midsommer Murders and Hot Fuzz are not the extraordinary  parodies they might initially appear.

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3 hours ago, DougRichards said:

Actually Americans visiting Australia have commented that Australian McDonalds IS different to US McDonalds.

 

I assume one orders to the left, and picks up to the right?

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54 minutes ago, Harold Jones said:

McDonalds sources ingredients locally more or less and they do adjust seasonings and menu items toward local tastes so the taste varies with location, but a big mac is broadly a big mac no matter where you get one.  McDonalds isn't the best burger you can get, but it is far from the worst. It's never my first choice but sometimes it's the only one available especially on long road trips.  

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Just now, Stuart Galbraith said:

Dear God, how did we survive before this Culinary Renaissance?

I have 3 days supply of emergency food and a 5 day supply of water. Just in case. But i'd trade it all in for Mc donalds :) 

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31 minutes ago, TrustMe said:

This is the best Mc Donalds food, a Sausage and Egg McMuffin meal ...

 

 

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Drop the egg add a slice of Canadian bacon and a hash brown, and you have an excellent way to start the day.  I had one about 15 minutes ago.  

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1 hour ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Aside from this being an abortion of an auto-playing video, which can f*ck-the-f*ck off as a concept, and which this board software doesn't even allow to be deleted from a quote, when I heard about the Rishi maths plan, my immediate thought was that if you can't teach basic numeracy plus a bit of mathematical problem solving, statistics and financial planning in ten years of teaching, then adding two more isn't going to make things any better.

Take a good look at why it doesn't work now and fix it. (Hint rote learning of times tables has a place, as does regular testing and shaming losers.)

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