DB Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 That's "quaffing". And most of them are nouveau riche chav types, prone to urinating into cups and throwing it over the balconies. Their parents would have been working class, life-long Labour supporters. Just sayin'
sunday Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 Could it be possible that tobacco tax revenue has dwindled too much, and they are looking for new "sin taxes"?
Stuart Galbraith Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 (edited)  That's "quaffing". And most of them are nouveau riche chav types, prone to urinating into cups and throwing it over the balconies. Their parents would have been working class, life-long Labour supporters. Just sayin'Quaffing, ah well I would'nt know, Im not rich. The nearest I get to quaffing is gargling me Yorkshire tea. Edited March 18, 2016 by Stuart Galbraith
Stuart Galbraith Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 Could it be possible that tobacco tax revenue has dwindled too much, and they are looking for new "sin taxes"? Pretty much exactly it. And that it targets a section of society unlikely to be party donors is just one more reason why it got through. Cynical, perhaps. Still bet im right though. When was the last time anyone upped Caviar tax?
swerve Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 The UK has now a sugar tax for beverages: Sugar tax surprise in Budget - but growth forecasts cut (the beeb beeb cee) Examples of drinks which would currently fall under the higher rate of the sugar tax include full-strength Coca-Cola and Pepsi, Lucozade Energy and Irn-Bru, the Treasury said. The lower rate would catch drinks such as Dr Pepper, Fanta, Sprite, Schweppes Indian tonic water and alcohol-free shandy.Waht's "sandy"? BBC health editor Hugh Pym said the tax had come as "a bolt from the blue" - particularly as Downing Street had opposed the idea last autumn. It was attacked at the time by some Conservative MPs as "nannystate-ism".american parlance made it into British politics? 1) Shandy (not sandy) is a beer diluted with lemonade. Traditionally a drink for hot summer days, those thought too young for real drinks (nowadays that risks some busybody screaming about giving 'children' booze), & some women. The proportions are variable. There are variants, such as cider shandy (cider instead of beer), & shandies made with soft drinks other than lemonade (ginger beer is traditional), but in those cases the non-standard element is named. It's a 19th century term, a new meaning for an older dialect word.. Alcohol-free shandy is a soft drink with a bit of beer flavouring 2. No. Both "Nanny state" & 'bolt from the blue" are of British origin: 1960s & 1830s, respectively..
DB Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 As swerve notes, "shandy" can be delivered in various proportions, from a "top" (for example "lager top" where you probably have 75% or more beer) down to perhaps 50:50 if you ask specifically for "shandy". There is, of course, a stigma attached to men drinking shandy - it might be better to ask for a pint of after shave instead if you want that message to be completely unambiguous, perhaps served at the Blue Oyster Bar... There are some who still sneer at the idea of a shandy being made with lemonade. As swerve also states, ginger beer is claimed by many to be the original. We used to be able to buy "top deck shandy" in cans as kids. "Shandy Bass" is still available in cans and is apparently less than 0.5% alcohol.
BansheeOne Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 Some participants of the 2011 I&I were rather incredulous about Berliner Weiße mit Schuss, which is somewhat similar ...
Stuart Galbraith Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 Some participants of the 2011 I&I were rather incredulous about Berliner Weiße mit Schuss, which is somewhat similar ... Antifreeze and Red Diesel? I know times are hard in Germany but...
Panzermann Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 The UK has now a sugar tax for beverages: Sugar tax surprise in Budget - but growth forecasts cut (the beeb beeb cee) Examples of drinks which would currently fall under the higher rate of the sugar tax include full-strength Coca-Cola and Pepsi, Lucozade Energy and Irn-Bru, the Treasury said. The lower rate would catch drinks such as Dr Pepper, Fanta, Sprite, Schweppes Indian tonic water and alcohol-free shandy.Waht's "sandy"? BBC health editor Hugh Pym said the tax had come as "a bolt from the blue" - particularly as Downing Street had opposed the idea last autumn. It was attacked at the time by some Conservative MPs as "nannystate-ism".american parlance made it into British politics? 1) Shandy (not sandy) is a beer diluted with lemonade. Traditionally a drink for hot summer days, those thought too young for real drinks (nowadays that risks some busybody screaming about giving 'children' booze), & some women. The proportions are variable. There are variants, such as cider shandy (cider instead of beer), & shandies made with soft drinks other than lemonade (ginger beer is traditional), but in those cases the non-standard element is named. It's a 19th century term, a new meaning for an older dialect word.. Alcohol-free shandy is a soft drink with a bit of beer flavouring"sandy" was a typo. oops In Germany there are similar beverages. "Alsterwasser" (water from River Alster in Hamburg) and "Radler" (bicycle rider in bavarian dialect) which are regional names for beer mixed with lemonade. "Diesel" is beer with cola. "Ruß'n" is unfiltered white beer with cola, making it look as if there is soot in the glass. And "Krefelder" Altbier (a dark ale type beer) with cola. And of course the Berlin specialty that BansheeOne mentioned. I probably missed some variations. 2. No. Both "Nanny state" & 'bolt from the blue" are of British origin: 1960s & 1830s, respectively.. Learned something. And still insulting to nannies.
Panzermann Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 Some participants of the 2011 I&I were rather incredulous about Berliner Weiße mit Schuss, which is somewhat similar ... Antifreeze and Red Diesel? I know times are hard in Germany but...Beer made from wheat and fermented with champagne yeast. Served with a shot of syrup made from raspberry, strawberry, cherry or woddruff (Waldmeister)
Stuart Galbraith Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 Yeah, but can you run your Volkswagen on it?
Mike Steele Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 Some participants of the 2011 I&I were rather incredulous about Berliner Weiße mit Schuss, which is somewhat similar ... Antifreeze and Red Diesel? I know times are hard in Germany but...Beer made from wheat and fermented with champagne yeast. Served with a shot of syrup made from raspberry, strawberry, cherry or woddruff (Waldmeister) And you say Americans are Beer Barbarians.....
Panzermann Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 You know, Berlin is the special snow flake of german cities. "poor but sexy" as a former mayor put it. And actually I like american craft beers. There are some well brewed "hops teas" to drink from the USA. But stuff like Pabst Blue Ribbon, Miller's or "Budweiser" are capital crimes and a total waste of good grain, water, malt and hops.
Mr King Posted March 18, 2016 Author Posted March 18, 2016 But stuff like Pabst Blue Ribbon, Miller's or "Budweiser" are capital crimes and a total waste of good grain, water, malt and hops. You mean corn and rice.
Panzermann Posted March 19, 2016 Posted March 19, 2016 But stuff like Pabst Blue Ribbon, Miller's or "Budweiser" are capital crimes and a total waste of good grain, water, malt and hops. You mean corn and rice. yes. all grass seeds in a wider sense.
Stuart Galbraith Posted March 19, 2016 Posted March 19, 2016 Britain can into Zeppelin! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-35836218New photographs of the world's longest aircraft have been released, before it is unveiled for the first time.The Airlander 10 is 302ft (92m) long, which is about 60ft (18m) longer than the biggest airliners.A British firm has spent the last nine years developing the prototype in the UK's biggest aircraft hangar, Cardington in Bedfordshire.It will be floated inside the hangar for the first time since its completion on Monday.The airship, which cost £25m to build, can stay in the same spot for three weeks and can even fly with bullet holes in it. Image copyright Hybrid Air Vehicles Image caption Hybrid Air Vehicles is hoping to build 12 Airlanders a year by 2018 The US Army ran out of money to develop it as a surveillance machine, so the British aerospace company behind it bought the rights back.Hybrid Air Vehicles (HAV) believes the vessel, which is silent and emits no pollution, could be the future for air travel.The aircraft needs 1.3m cubic feet of helium - enough to fill 15 Olympic-sized swimming pools - to get off the ground.It can take off vertically and land on almost any surface, including ice, desert and water.The firm is hoping to build 12 Airlanders a year by 2018, some as passenger aircraft that will carry up to 48 people at a time.Chris Daniels, Head of Partnerships at HAV, said: "We will not compete with a 747 flying across the Atlantic, but we can offer the ultimate flight experience for tourism and leisure purposes."It's perfect for sightseeing because we can have floor to ceiling clear panels, and we can open the windows because we are not flying as high or as fast as traditional planes, but we will not be offering a service to get from A to B as quickly as possible."Other plans include providing coastguard duties, military and civil surveillance, filming and academic research.Companies that deliver heavy equipment to remote corners of the world might also find the aircraft useful, Mr Daniels said, or they might be used in humanitarian missions.The firm hopes to take the Airlander 10 on its first flight outside of the hangar in the next few months.
Panzermann Posted March 19, 2016 Posted March 19, 2016 Although they came farther so far with an actual zeppelin built, it reminds me of the CargoLifter debacle.
Stuart Galbraith Posted March 19, 2016 Posted March 19, 2016 Reminds me of R101 actually. What could possibly go wrong?
Ivanhoe Posted March 19, 2016 Posted March 19, 2016 Britain can into Zeppelin! Guys, its about 70 years too late to get revenge on the Jerries. Let it go.
Brian Kennedy Posted March 19, 2016 Posted March 19, 2016 You know, Berlin is the special snow flake of german cities. "poor but sexy" as a former mayor put it. And actually I like american craft beers. There are some well brewed "hops teas" to drink from the USA. But stuff like Pabst Blue Ribbon, Miller's or "Budweiser" are capital crimes and a total waste of good grain, water, malt and hops. I think it's better just to see cheap US beers as a different beverage entirely than Euro-style "beer" -- they're actually totally delicious drunk ice-cold on a warm day or whatever.
Stuart Galbraith Posted March 20, 2016 Posted March 20, 2016 Britain can into Zeppelin! Guys, its about 70 years too late to get revenge on the Jerries. Let it go. Exactly, so they wont be expecting us! All your Volkswagen are belong to us!
DB Posted March 21, 2016 Posted March 21, 2016 If you have to chill it to 4 degrees to stun the tastebuds, I question its value as a beverage.
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