swerve Posted January 22, 2016 Posted January 22, 2016 You have to differentiate between the UK class system and one based on wealth. "Old Money" despised "New Money". The entrepreneurs were considered tradesmen and a necessary evil by the traditional upper class. A proper gentleman did not have to work in trade.Unlike the people who run the Tory party now. Cameron, Osborne, et al - all from trade.
Panzermann Posted January 22, 2016 Posted January 22, 2016 The reform of the House of Lords removed the majority of hereditary peers, thus removing the "disinterested" aspect of the role that some considered to be a positive and reinforcing the partisan elements that make it far less useful as a check on the Commons. You do need to be a bit careful when looking at early scientists and philosophers - quite often you'd see that natural philosophers have become so in their spare time, made available because they were the second (or third, etc.) sons of gentry, and either provided with an allowance or having taken divinity been given a stipend as vicars. Perhaps they don't come from the first rank, but generally gentry. I think that it's not until later in the 19th century that those without family money could get the necessary education (Faraday being a notable exception)Fair comment. I do recall Bill Bryson mentiioning in one of his books the remarkable contribution that Vicars made to early science, simply because they had stipend, a roomy house, and only had to really apply themselves on Sundays. Lots of time and a reasonable income meant they had time to indulge their passions. I seem to recall at least one of them made a remarkable contribution to the early study of fossils for example.Mendel, today called the first geneticist, was an augustinian friar. And many other early modern scientists of the 18th/19 th century. Darwin had originally planned to become a priest and had studied theology. afaik. So he had nearly counted as well.
Panzermann Posted January 22, 2016 Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) There is a lot to be said for an organisation of overpaid, underemployed people, they do seem to achieve wonders. Unfortunately it doesnt seem to work as well in the financial sector. Legend has it Einstein took intentionally his job at the patent office to have time for developing his theories. The city boys are too busy snorting coke and laying over priced escorts. Edited January 22, 2016 by Panzermann
Mikel2 Posted January 23, 2016 Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) 1956, a much classier time. Edited January 23, 2016 by Mikel2
Panzermann Posted January 23, 2016 Posted January 23, 2016 Elizabeth is like a living fossil of the Empire. She should integrate a coelacanth into her perosnal coat of arms.
Ivanhoe Posted January 24, 2016 Posted January 24, 2016 http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-south-west-wales-35360798 After 85 days of rain, the sun is finally shining in a Pembrokeshire village.Miserable residents of Eglwyswrw, near Cardigan, have had to endure the wet weather since 26 October.The village was five days short of beating the British record which is 89 days set in Scotland in 1923.
Panzermann Posted January 24, 2016 Posted January 24, 2016 Well the last 3 attempts resulted in decapitation, starving to death and a red hot poker up the bottom, which constitutionally is regarded as something of a faux pas these days. I suppose there is always the Edward VIII approach, but Charles went ahead and married someone wholly unsuitable anyway, so we kind of jumped that log already. You should find proof that Camilla is secretly a catholic. A bloody papist!
Simon Tan Posted January 24, 2016 Posted January 24, 2016 It would be improper of big ears to not at least play a few overs.
Panzermann Posted January 24, 2016 Posted January 24, 2016 I don't know Camilla, nothing against her personally. She seems to make Charles happy after all. But how else to construct something to keep him from the throne? Being eccentric ecological farmer and ranting about environmental protection and stuff is not disqualifying. But maybe Charles is acting so eccentric, because he simply can. I mean he is waiting all his life, if gets to sit on the throne he might act differently and assume a more proper behaviour. At the moment he has not much any responsibility. So he can do any crazy thing he likes.
Ivanhoe Posted January 24, 2016 Posted January 24, 2016 She could turn out to be a latterday advent hoppist and it wouldnt make much difference. Charles wants to be defender of the faith's, so she will presumably mean she have to spend at least part of her time in a Burqa. Well done, young padwan; all these years in the FFZ have come to fruition...
Murph Posted January 24, 2016 Posted January 24, 2016 No kidding. We could use some of that today. Class, I mean. 1956, a much classier time.
DB Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 All righty then. can't be letting This topic get off the front page. "...particularly green ones". Ducky's Farmall is safe, but surely "dat's rasis"?
Ivanhoe Posted January 27, 2016 Posted January 27, 2016 I guess the STD he has to worry about is rust.
Panzermann Posted January 27, 2016 Posted January 27, 2016 Which green coloured tractors? John Deere? Deutz-Fahr? Fendt? Claas? Details matter!
Panzermann Posted January 27, 2016 Posted January 27, 2016 I mean if it was a Ferguseon TE20 I could ALMOST see the attraction. Lanz-Bulldog. Those got the biggest piston. *badum tss*
BillB Posted January 27, 2016 Posted January 27, 2016 I mean if it was a Ferguseon TE20 I could ALMOST see the attraction. Bollocks, you come from the south-west, the guy from Suffolk undoubtedly got steered into his perverted ways by folk from your neck of the woods. Altho he is closer to Norfolk to be fair... BillB
BillB Posted January 27, 2016 Posted January 27, 2016 I mean if it was a Ferguseon TE20 I could ALMOST see the attraction. Bollocks, you come from the south-west, the guy from Suffolk undoubtedly got steered into his perverted ways by folk from your neck of the woods. Altho he is closer to Norfolk to be fair... BillB At least I dont come from the neck of woods that bred a particular cow with horns so you can hang onto it. Feel the love Bill, its winking at you. All I can say is you must have freakishly long arms if you can hang onto the horns while rogering the beast in the pic. And you well know, I don't come from the Highlands or indeed Oatmeal Ethnic Land, I am just here in a supervisory capacity. The White Man's Burden if you will... BillB
BillB Posted January 27, 2016 Posted January 27, 2016 I mean if it was a Ferguseon TE20 I could ALMOST see the attraction. Bollocks, you come from the south-west, the guy from Suffolk undoubtedly got steered into his perverted ways by folk from your neck of the woods. Altho he is closer to Norfolk to be fair... BillB At least I dont come from the neck of woods that bred a particular cow with horns so you can hang onto it. Feel the love Bill, its winking at you. All I can say is you must have freakishly long arms if you can hang onto the horns while rogering the beast in the pic. And you well know, I don't come from the Highlands or indeed Oatmeal Ethnic Land, I am just here in a supervisory capacity. The White Man's Burden if you will... BillB Probably comes from drinking all that Iron Bru I expect. Please tell me you don't drink that shite, it's bad enough up here without it infiltrating south into God's Chosen Country. BillB
BillB Posted January 27, 2016 Posted January 27, 2016 Nah, we have rusty water pipes, so we get it for free. Thought your piping was still lead... BillB
DB Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 Normally, the UK welcomes enthusiastic amateurs - after all, we built an empire that way. But these two? If they carry on like this, there will be calls to implement charges for use of the emergency services. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-35420983
Panzermann Posted February 15, 2016 Posted February 15, 2016 Why is the UK still printing its laws on vellum? (BBC)
Ssnake Posted February 15, 2016 Posted February 15, 2016 For once, a British Tradition that isn't insane.
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