Corinthian Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 It amazes me that the body can just want ONE particular thing and steer your behavior toward it.Salt comes to mind.I've been thinking that I don't have such cravings. Then I remembered: dark chocolate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr King Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 It amazes me that the body can just want ONE particular thing and steer your behavior toward it.Salt comes to mind.I've been thinking that I don't have such cravings. Then I remembered: dark chocolate. I have the same problem with brown sugar. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOBP7QMuHHs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Odd one I heard of last night. Newborns are not to receive water only untill 6 months old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalkre Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Odd one I heard of last night. Newborns are not to receive water only untill 6 months old.Weird. My mom runs a daycare out of her home, has done it for years, and actually keeps up with the latest research and such. After reading this I was almost positive I've seen her give babies younger than that water. Then some google-fu showed this seems to be the prevailing wisdom and the more I think about it she sometimes doesn't get kids till they're almost 6 mo and frankly I couldn't tell the age of a baby if my life depended on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalkre Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 One of the weirdest things I saw was when I got right out of the Army. I rented a room from an old friend and right before I moved out they had their first kid. I remember his wife froze excess breast milk and donated it to a charity. It seemed a bit... odd but I recall her saying how much better it was for newborns than formula. One of Stargrunt6's videos commented on this as well mentioning how so many of those formulas are loaded with sugar and you end up with really unhealthy babies as a result (and that horrible start really screws them over for life). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargrunt6 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 One part in the "Ominous Octet" of type 2 diabetes pathophysiology is the effects of hyperglycemia on the brain. In short, it hampers satiety, which is why diabetics eat more.Link to one groundbreaking article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted August 16, 2015 Author Share Posted August 16, 2015 One of the weirdest things I saw was when I got right out of the Army. I rented a room from an old friend and right before I moved out they had their first kid. I remember his wife froze excess breast milk and donated it to a charity. It seemed a bit... odd but I recall her saying how much better it was for newborns than formula. One of Stargrunt6's videos commented on this as well mentioning how so many of those formulas are loaded with sugar and you end up with really unhealthy babies as a result (and that horrible start really screws them over for life). Most low-fat things at the supermarket are really reduced-fat/increased-sugar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted August 16, 2015 Author Share Posted August 16, 2015 One part in the "Ominous Octet" of type 2 diabetes pathophysiology is the effects of hyperglycemia on the brain. In short, it hampers satiety, which is why diabetics eat more. Link to one groundbreaking article. Does the above imply that maybe the endocrinal impact of diabetes leads to obesity, rather than v.v.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr King Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 One of the weirdest things I saw was when I got right out of the Army. I rented a room from an old friend and right before I moved out they had their first kid. I remember his wife froze excess breast milk and donated it to a charity. It seemed a bit... odd but I recall her saying how much better it was for newborns than formula. One of Stargrunt6's videos commented on this as well mentioning how so many of those formulas are loaded with sugar and you end up with really unhealthy babies as a result (and that horrible start really screws them over for life). Most low-fat things at the supermarket are really reduced-fat/increased-sugar. Yep they decrease the fat. so they add sugar to help it taste good, among other reasons they add sugar to those products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Odd one I heard of last night. Newborns are not to receive water only untill 6 months old.Weird. My mom runs a daycare out of her home, has done it for years, and actually keeps up with the latest research and such. After reading this I was almost positive I've seen her give babies younger than that water. Then some google-fu showed this seems to be the prevailing wisdom and the more I think about it she sometimes doesn't get kids till they're almost 6 mo and frankly I couldn't tell the age of a baby if my life depended on it. I did some reading when I saw this, basically to much water upsets their electrolyte and way to much water could basically poison them. However normal amount will not hurt them, but generally babies up to that stage need breast milk/formula, as their body is growing very quickly. Water may reduce their intake, but hey that's all you got, give it to them in reasonable amounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Fredriksson Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I most probably poisoned myself with water once. During a walk of 100 km (I dnf after 90) over 24 hour I had a "strategy" which consisted of lots of water since warm outside. I drank between 18-20 liters.Unfortunately I did not have the knowledge I now have, so between fluid in/out and intake of electrolytes there was an inbalance.After 90 km I went to take a dump. Ended up cramping and much other discomfort on toilet-floor for about 40 minutes.At least I had brain enough to go to infirmary when I could stand again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargrunt6 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 One part in the "Ominous Octet" of type 2 diabetes pathophysiology is the effects of hyperglycemia on the brain. In short, it hampers satiety, which is why diabetics eat more. Link to one groundbreaking article. Does the above imply that maybe the endocrinal impact of diabetes leads to obesity, rather than v.v.? Pathology of many diseases happen to be vicious cycles, and this is just one example. Diabetes doesn't cause obesity, but it makes it easier to sustain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted August 18, 2015 Author Share Posted August 18, 2015 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-paleo-diet-has-it-wrong-cavemen-did-eat-carbs-2015-08-18 “Eating meat may have kick-started the evolution of bigger brains, but cooked starchy foods together with more salivary amylase genes made us smarter still,” the study concluded. The study says that to truly eat Paleo, starch and higher levels of carbohydrates are necessary. It explains that the human brain uses about a quarter of the body’s energy budget and about 60% of blood glucose — energy needs that wouldn't have been met on a low-carbohydrate diet. Additional glucose was necessary for pregnancy and lactation. The study also found evidence that the genes that code for the enzymes needed to digest starch evolved about 1 million years ago, in the midst of the Paleolithic era, further suggesting a diet that included significant levels of starch. I'm not seeing the causality between the claims that Paleo man had a low-carb intake, and the claim that a low-carb diet leads to low blood glucose and lesser brain function. Isn't the liver capable of converting both proteins and fatty acids into glucose as needed? Also, having the starch-digesting enzymes enables effective use of starch intake, but is it necessary and sufficient proof that all Paleo diets did include significant levels of starch? Seems like piss-poor logic to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted August 18, 2015 Author Share Posted August 18, 2015 Also, it occurs to me that we keep viewing paleo man as a modern 18th century man without electricity. But my understanding is that most Stone-Age cultures were pretty low-energy cultures. Hunter-gatherers aren't out there sweating in the fields 12 hours a day. They are going for the low-hanging fruit, literally. Shellfish, meat that can be trapped, wild fruit, tubers, etc. Such a lifestyle wouldn't require 4 kcal a day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jason L Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Also, it occurs to me that we keep viewing paleo man as a modern 18th century man without electricity. But my understanding is that most Stone-Age cultures were pretty low-energy cultures. Hunter-gatherers aren't out there sweating in the fields 12 hours a day. They are going for the low-hanging fruit, literally. Shellfish, meat that can be trapped, wild fruit, tubers, etc. Such a lifestyle wouldn't require 4 kcal a day... It's actually widely accepted that humans took a big hit with the whole agriculture thing. Hunter gatherers spent less time working for food, and had better nutrition that farmers for a considerable stretch of history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim the Tank Nut Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 til they hunted and area out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 When I see comments extolling vegan/vegetarianism, I like to ask how many successful vegan cultures/civilizations have there been? If it were so great, the human race would have gone vegan long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 til they hunted and area out...That's why hunter/gatherers claimed such large areas, and opposed agrarians moving in--an early 'rancher/sod-buster' conflict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim the Tank Nut Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 the Native American population decided to burn large swaths of Kentucky to drive game. The area is now called Barren County (really). It all grew back of course but the noble savages were hungry for a long time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swerve Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 (edited) Also, fun-fact: only one group of people can benefit from fructose and that's marathon runners. Probably because no fat cell is safe at the 10 mile mark.Nope. I remember pouring fruit juice down my throat when I ran out of blood sugar in the second half of a 200 km bike ride, & it was exactly what I needed. It's damned good for those moments, & they're easier to reach when cycling than when running. Edited August 18, 2015 by swerve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swerve Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 One of the weirdest things I saw was when I got right out of the Army. I rented a room from an old friend and right before I moved out they had their first kid. I remember his wife froze excess breast milk and donated it to a charity. It seemed a bit... odd but I recall her saying how much better it was for newborns than formula. One of Stargrunt6's videos commented on this as well mentioning how so many of those formulas are loaded with sugar and you end up with really unhealthy babies as a result (and that horrible start really screws them over for life). In some countries there are state-run breast milk banks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr King Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 One of the weirdest things I saw was when I got right out of the Army. I rented a room from an old friend and right before I moved out they had their first kid. I remember his wife froze excess breast milk and donated it to a charity. It seemed a bit... odd but I recall her saying how much better it was for newborns than formula. One of Stargrunt6's videos commented on this as well mentioning how so many of those formulas are loaded with sugar and you end up with really unhealthy babies as a result (and that horrible start really screws them over for life). In some countries there are state-run breast milk banks. How does one make a withdraw.....for science? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 One of the weirdest things I saw was when I got right out of the Army. I rented a room from an old friend and right before I moved out they had their first kid. I remember his wife froze excess breast milk and donated it to a charity. It seemed a bit... odd but I recall her saying how much better it was for newborns than formula. One of Stargrunt6's videos commented on this as well mentioning how so many of those formulas are loaded with sugar and you end up with really unhealthy babies as a result (and that horrible start really screws them over for life). In some countries there are state-run breast milk banks. "Here at TankNet's Loving Hands Breast Milk Center, we. . . " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargrunt6 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-paleo-diet-has-it-wrong-cavemen-did-eat-carbs-2015-08-18 “Eating meat may have kick-started the evolution of bigger brains, but cooked starchy foods together with more salivary amylase genes made us smarter still,” the study concluded. The study says that to truly eat Paleo, starch and higher levels of carbohydrates are necessary. It explains that the human brain uses about a quarter of the body’s energy budget and about 60% of blood glucose — energy needs that wouldn't have been met on a low-carbohydrate diet. Additional glucose was necessary for pregnancy and lactation. The study also found evidence that the genes that code for the enzymes needed to digest starch evolved about 1 million years ago, in the midst of the Paleolithic era, further suggesting a diet that included significant levels of starch. I'm not seeing the causality between the claims that Paleo man had a low-carb intake, and the claim that a low-carb diet leads to low blood glucose and lesser brain function. Isn't the liver capable of converting both proteins and fatty acids into glucose as needed? Also, having the starch-digesting enzymes enables effective use of starch intake, but is it necessary and sufficient proof that all Paleo diets did include significant levels of starch? Seems like piss-poor logic to me. Then there's that whole long gut of ours that's not a very short one. I just spoke with one of our ivy league trained dieticians today at work, and she said meat should only be eaten no more than four times a month (yeah, I break that every day). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargrunt6 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-paleo-diet-has-it-wrong-cavemen-did-eat-carbs-2015-08-18 “Eating meat may have kick-started the evolution of bigger brains, but cooked starchy foods together with more salivary amylase genes made us smarter still,” the study concluded. The study says that to truly eat Paleo, starch and higher levels of carbohydrates are necessary. It explains that the human brain uses about a quarter of the body’s energy budget and about 60% of blood glucose — energy needs that wouldn't have been met on a low-carbohydrate diet. Additional glucose was necessary for pregnancy and lactation. The study also found evidence that the genes that code for the enzymes needed to digest starch evolved about 1 million years ago, in the midst of the Paleolithic era, further suggesting a diet that included significant levels of starch. I'm not seeing the causality between the claims that Paleo man had a low-carb intake, and the claim that a low-carb diet leads to low blood glucose and lesser brain function. Isn't the liver capable of converting both proteins and fatty acids into glucose as needed? Also, having the starch-digesting enzymes enables effective use of starch intake, but is it necessary and sufficient proof that all Paleo diets did include significant levels of starch? Seems like piss-poor logic to me. Then there's that whole long gut of ours that's not a very short one. I just spoke with one of our ivy Also, fun-fact: only one group of people can benefit from fructose and that's marathon runners. Probably because no fat cell is safe at the 10 mile mark.Nope. I remember pouring fruit juice down my throat when I ran out of blood sugar in the second half of a 200 km bike ride, & it was exactly what I needed. It's damned good for those moments, & they're easier to reach when cycling than when running. The "n" value of your research equals "1." And a 200km bike ride isn't that far removed from a 26mile run anyway, so it kind of makes the point. I'm just quoting Dr. Lustig.league trained dieticians today at work, and she said meat should only be eaten no more than four times a month (yeah, I break that every day). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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