bfng3569 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 3 hours ago, Roman Alymov said: As for me, naval/air war in ME will be exactly what China need to further deplete US and British stocks of weapons (this time, naval and air ones). Let's wait and see how it will work. Pro-Rus TG channels expect bombing campaign to start this night. I hope this Iranian IL-76 that are regularly flying to Russia are not going back home empty. So china's plan is to somehow foresee the US and British forces getting involved in the mid east and deplete stocks of weapons? and to what end game exactly...?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 3 hours ago, Roman Alymov said: No need to debate this, let's wait and see - Rus sources report explosions around Hodeida port. Any US campaign that wore into its munitions resources such that it stretched its ability to confront China would not leave a functioning Yemen behind. As you say, we shall see. I suspect the biggest limitation of the US is the current administration's will to engage the Houthi after finally reigning in the KSA, especially during an election year. But there is the double edged knife of appearing too week or sparking supply chain issues in an election year as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 hour ago, glenn239 said: This is what we're down to? The West fears taking on Yemen? The west fears the cost/benefit ratio of taking on Yemen. Their operations to date are less 9/11 and more on the level of Somali pirates in terms of ships damaged or effected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 hour ago, glenn239 said: This is what we're down to? The West fears taking on Yemen? For that matter, apparently China fears taking on the Philippines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) 12 minutes ago, bfng3569 said: So china's plan is to somehow foresee the US and British forces getting involved in the mid east and deplete stocks of weapons? and to what end game exactly...?. Pro Russia internet is generally pointing out the deficiencies of western ammunition supplies to Ukraine as being huge vulnerabilities to cover up the fact that they themselves have huge deficiencies of munitions, while avoiding the issue that Ukraine is hardly an existential fight for anyone in the West. The hope is to produce a political environment where donations to Ukraine are hopeless and wasteful to encourage the west to stop now. In the US at least, it is working. The MAGA GOP are describing the 3.5% of the defense budget that the US spends supporting Ukraine as excessive and unnecessary, despite the fact it is exhausting everything the Russians can produce as fast as they can make it (with no loss of US soldiers lives). Edited January 12 by Josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Josh Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Well, that was just a matter of time. Houthi And The Blowfish went out their way to poke the lion right after a public declaration. I hope they blew something important up instead of digging holes in the desert to send a message, as it more typical of cruise missile diplomacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistral Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 hour ago, Josh said: Well, that was just a matter of time. Houthi And The Blowfish went out their way to poke the lion right after a public declaration. I hope they blew something important up instead of digging holes in the desert to send a message, as it more typical of cruise missile diplomacy. I have a bridge i am willing to sell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seahawk Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Crazy, another endless war has started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistral Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 9 minutes ago, seahawk said: Crazy, another endless war has started. Not crazy. Very good for business. Greek shipowners are partying day and night😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 18 minutes ago, Mistral said: I have a bridge i am willing to sell you. I doubt anyone from top to bottom thinks this strike solves anything. But I would say it is better than doing nothing. Definitely part of a larger continuing conflict now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 27 minutes ago, seahawk said: Crazy, another endless war has started. It started months ago, we just pretended it wasnt happening because it was beneath use to do anything. Interesting thing on the UK media, someone claimed it was the first use of an antiship ballistic missile against the British or American warships. Which frankly isnt something you can really leave in play, assuming it wasnt just a vaguely lucky shot from a Scud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 On 1/8/2024 at 7:18 PM, rmgill said: The RN could stick some SBS and SAS on some rented fishing trawlers towed by a container ship and send them over to eliminate the Venezuelan navy. Heck, they could accomplish much the same thing with the Poona light Horse... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Creek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Alymov Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 5 hours ago, bfng3569 said: So china's plan is to somehow foresee the US and British forces getting involved in the mid east and deplete stocks of weapons? and to what end game exactly...?. No way for me to know what is China's plan (unfortunatelly, unlike some of This Great Forum members, i got no tallent of reading foreign leaders mind at continental distance), but objectively keeping US&Co hands as full as possible is in China's interests: the longer West is bisu in places away from China. the more time China got to prepare to unavoidable collision. How they will use this time is another matter.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seahawk Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 39 minutes ago, Mistral said: Not crazy. Very good for business. Greek shipowners are partying day and night😂 At least that will be great parties, with lots of good food, good coke and nice hookers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ink Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 6 hours ago, Josh said: For that matter, apparently China fears taking on the Philippines. And why wouldn't they? The Philippines is a big country with a large population and a vaguely functioning military. Yemen is one of the world's poorest nations, crippled by war, famine and disease. Bombing them is like kicking a guy in a wheelchair because he insulted your mum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Alymov Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) 6 hours ago, Josh said: Pro Russia internet is generally pointing out the deficiencies of western ammunition supplies to Ukraine as being huge vulnerabilities to cover up the fact that they themselves have huge deficiencies of munitions, while avoiding the issue that Ukraine is hardly an existential fight for anyone in the West. Cover up from whom? Pro-Rus internet audience is perfectly aware of real situation. Popular joke in pro-Rus TG following US&Co statements about success of overnight bombing Edited January 12 by Roman Alymov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistral Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 11 minutes ago, seahawk said: At least that will be great parties, with lots of good food, good coke and nice hookers. The laat 5 years have really been a bonanza for shipowners. Covid, Ukraine and now this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ink Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 2 minutes ago, Mistral said: The laat 5 years have really been a bonanza for shipowners. Covid, Ukraine and now this. Forgive me if I don't shed too many tears for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistral Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 2 minutes ago, ink said: Forgive me if I don't shed too many tears for them. Tears not needed! https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/bonanza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BansheeOne Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 The EU may expand the French-led surveillance mission EMASoH for the Street of Hormuz to include the Red Sea and escort of European ships by a planned three frigates. Being the EU, final agreement will probably occur only by the end of February, but will then give members like Germany who need some kind of multinational mandate a legal base for deployments. Type 124 frigate Hessen would be theoretically available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ink Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 hour ago, Mistral said: Tears not needed! https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/bonanza Ah I see, I thought you were being sarcastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 hour ago, Roman Alymov said: Cover up from whom? Pro-Rus internet audience is perfectly aware of real situation. Popular joke in pro-Rus TG following US&Co statements about success of overnight bombing An off topic detail regarding the above officer's uniform. Is the U.S. Army the only army that has the officer's shoulder board rank going front to back rather than the more common left to right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Alymov Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Nithing new is new. "Gudok" newspaper, 1928 ( https://t.me/boris_rozhin/109356 ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 35 minutes ago, Rick said: An off topic detail regarding the above officer's uniform. Is the U.S. Army the only army that has the officer's shoulder board rank going front to back rather than the more common left to right? Atleast El Salvador and Paraguay do aswell, on certain uniforms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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