Echo501 Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Hello, Was wondering if any one has experience with these barriers. Specifically how successful is a 4 foot thick wall at stopping various caliber weapons. Everything from small arms to artillery. Thoughts? Thanks in advance --Kenny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRW Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Our guest house in kabul had them installed after a threat assesment. Mind you, these were inside a brick wall. How good theye would be fortunately never got to learn. But I would think it all depends on the gunk you fill them with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptLuke Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9d_IbRBY_U Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Related videos... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jason L Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Hello, Was wondering if any one has experience with these barriers. Specifically how successful is a 4 foot thick wall at stopping various caliber weapons. Everything from small arms to artillery. Thoughts? Thanks in advance --Kenny They're generally being built double or triple thickness to resist against larger VBIEDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EchoFiveMike Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 HESCO's also have to be covered by fire and observations 24/7 or else the durkas plant the IED's in them. Which results in a much more effective air burst, with which I have 1st hand experience. S/F...Ken M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzermann Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 How about covering the top with concrete so nobody can put something in there that does not belong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EchoFiveMike Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Now you need concrete.... And the shitheads can just leave it lay on top, which is admittedly more easily spotted. S/F.....Ken M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzermann Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Now you need concrete.... And the shitheads can just leave it lay on top, which is admittedly more easily spotted. S/F.....Ken M Maybe sewing the bags shut after filling. Or glueing. Well anything that encloses them so nobody can place a bomb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Hmm, what if they were filled with expanding foam that sets up? I wonder how that could be for formulated to absorb blast and projectile impact damage.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jason L Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Hmm, what if they were filled with expanding foam that sets up? I wonder how that could be for formulated to absorb blast and projectile impact damage.... Density is your friend, foam is the exact opposite. You could do a resin-dirt mix, but anything beyond compacting lose dirt defeats the whole purpose of the concertainers: which is that with a couple of earth movers and a company of strapping youngins you can build a firebase that's basically impervious to everything but heavy artillery attack and aerial bombs in very, very short order with the earth beneath your feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briganza Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 HESCO's also have to be covered by fire and observations 24/7 or else the durkas plant the IED's in them. Which results in a much more effective air burst, with which I have 1st hand experience. S/F...Ken M Isn't that the same as complaining your bike was nicked when you left it by a lamp post unsecured all night. looking at them feeding 330ms of HESCO from a container made me think of tank ditches/obstetrical/channelling. Run out your barrier and fill it from the enemy side so you have a wall and ditch in very quick time. You could seal gaps between woods/villages very quickly with minimal resources. Quicker than mining, cheaper and a lot simpler to take down at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EchoFiveMike Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 The problem isn't so much putting them up, it's taking them down. If you don't have engineering equipment, all that dirt isn't going anywhere. Which is largely a function of the US "expeditionary by being cheap and light" mentality. We get more boots on the ground, but those boots are walking. It's fine for what is essentially colonial enforcement work. S/F....Ken M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Why take them down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jason L Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 The problem isn't so much putting them up, it's taking them down. If you don't have engineering equipment, all that dirt isn't going anywhere. Which is largely a function of the US "expeditionary by being cheap and light" mentality. We get more boots on the ground, but those boots are walking. It's fine for what is essentially colonial enforcement work. S/F....Ken M HE is cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigelfe Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Hesco sure as hell beats filing mountains of sandbags or erecting CGI walls and in-filling. Hesco is another good thing that came from Margaret Thatcher staring down the Marxists of the NUM (remember the official who sought asylum in E Germany!). Hesco's inventor was a mining engineer who needed a new job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jason L Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Hesco sure as hell beats filing mountains of sandbags or erecting CGI walls and in-filling. Hesco is another good thing that came from Margaret Thatcher staring down the Marxists of the NUM (remember the official who sought asylum in E Germany!). Hesco's inventor was a mining engineer who needed a new job. It was originally designed for flood control as an alternative to sandbagging. And guess who else does a lot of sandbagging......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Werb Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Hesco sure as hell beats filing mountains of sandbags or erecting CGI walls and in-filling. Hesco is another good thing that came from Margaret Thatcher staring down the Marxists of the NUM (remember the official who sought asylum in E Germany!). Hesco's inventor was a mining engineer who needed a new job. And weirdly, he died riding a cross-country Segway off a cliff! He'd recently bought the Segway operation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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