Roman Alymov Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 More news from “Russian liberal artists”: men known for his “art performance” in 2013 when he nailed his balls to Red Square to protest against political situation in Russia ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHVdz3S4wJM ) now poured petrol on KGB\FSB headquarter door in central Moscow (unused door) and burned it, then waiting for police to arrest him (took some time) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5j_fZqiyDE Now people are asking wasn’t it better to leave him nailed back in 2013?
bojan Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 Arson, damage of property and few other (endangering people lives) would be enough for what, 10-15 years in any country?
EchoFiveMike Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 Nonsense, start making their manpower work against them. Destroy their food supply and logistics, like we did to the Norks or the Japanese. War to the knife, knife to the hilt. S/F.....Ken M Ah, World War 3. Was Korea worth that? That was what both the USA & USSR were trying to avoid, by limiting the scope of the war. Yes, stupidly so on the part of the USA, when they should have been going all in to exploit their overwhelming nuclear advantage, which was clearly going to disappear soon. If you go to war, you win, period. The cost is whatever it takes. S/F....Ken M
EchoFiveMike Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 It wouldn't work, for the simple reason it didnt work in Vietnam. How do you bomb a nation back to the stone age when, agriculturally, its still pretty much still in the stone age? Logistics, well SAC pounded on the supply lines in North Korea regularly as best I can tell. Knock a Railway line out and you have a truck. Knock a railway line out and you are back to a man with a bike. As it was, the Chinese took horrific casualties, and its clear that subsequently that did, after Stalin died, play a role in them seeking peace. But its one thing to say a nation took horrific casualties, its quite another to say that it was unable to take any more. Seeking a peace deal to me looks like a convenient move for them. Having a US ally right next door as a neighbour wouldn't have been, and they would have done absolutely all they could to avoid it. Short of atom bombing all the extant Chinese cities, I see no way this could have been resolved. its not as if the US military actually HAD many operable Atomic bombs in the early 50s anyway.Well over 500 in the relevant timeframe. If you consider 1952 as the relevant timeframe, probably closer to 800'ish deliverable, the entire production run of Mk4's, with some Mk5 and Mk6 bombs from early in their production runs, already tested/proofed during Operation Greenhouse. With negligible Soviet retaliatory capability(vs CONUS) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Greenhouse http://www.nrdc.org/nuclear/nudb/datab19.asp Of greater relevance was Gen LeMay's SAC readiness at the relevant timeframe. Oct 1951, SAC considered 15 of their bomber wings "ready." I'm uncertain how many of these were B50 or B36 wings. We never really waged unrestricted war upon the N Vietnamese, except briefly under Nixon to get the VN to the table for negotiations. We stupidly made this a limited effort. As I stated in the previous post, if you're at war, you win, period. Everything, literally everything, is justified to that goal. Anything less is not war, it's self abuse. We didn't start the Korean war, we should have utilized this worthless "moral high ground" to justify proper war winning commitment. That we didn't is proof of the uselessness of the concept and the hypocrisy of it's advocates. S/F....Ken M
EchoFiveMike Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 It was never about Korea. If you haven't noticed, Communism defeated us. We just beat their government(and many of those people just changed hats) and facilitated a rape of their public wealth, they ruined a major portion of our population as well as corrupted most of our institutions. S/F....Ken M
Panzermann Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) Arson, damage of property and few other (endangering people lives) would be enough for what, 10-15 years in any country? Well if he nailed his balls to Red Square, its difficult not to perceive that at least as a patriotic act. He burnt a bonfire (?) in public in support of Maiden protests in Kiew as well. he like sfires obviously. As long as he only hurts himself like nailing himself to the ground, or wraps himself in concertina I do not care much. Setting a door on fire and thereby risking to burn the building is another matter. He has been trialed at court several times already and they tried to declare him crazy so they could lock him up in a psychiatric ward. So far he could convince the judges he is an extreme artist. And after that, even the Cheka is going to have a job measuring up in interrogation techniques.....It is different when someone else nails his scrotum. Edited November 10, 2015 by Panzermann
Roman Alymov Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 By contrast, If he nailed his balls to the door, might that be perceived as a pro-Putin, pro-FSB act? Yeah, lol, quite possibly. Some local commenters proposed him to do this prior to burning the door – at least it will solve the problem of spending taxpayers money on endless detentions and courts….
JasonJ Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) Yes, by the end of the Korean war. And still, when adding up the necessary targets, combat losses, duds and weapon capablity, not nearly enough to do the job of knocking China and Russia out of the war. Ive no problem winning wars and applying yourself to winning them totally (as we have not done in the middle east) or avoiding to fight at all as not being to our benefit (as has occured for Britain and American multiple times since WW2 if we stop to think about it). But clearly there has to be a cost/benefit analysis of the results. I find it highly unlikely Truman/Eisenhower didnt do just that and conclude that an all out nuclear exchange, with the loss of millions of lives was not worth several thousand miles of North Korea and proceed accordingly. You proceed form the idea that Communism being defeated would be of a benefit to mankind. My own view is that Communism WAS ultimatley defeated, at relatively light cost to mankind as it turned out. I dont see any real benefit to reversing that decision. Well we discussed this before, and I daresay we are not going to agree anytime soon. That's what Imperial Japan was counting on. Instead they got total US commitment against them, slow in the first year, but completely overwhelming later. The following are wiki numbers but the margin of error can't be totally off. In the Battle for the Philippines 1944-1945, the US manpower strength was 1,250,000 men, probably Marines, Navy, everyone. In the Korean War, only about 325,000, for the whole war. South Korea had about double that. Battle of Inchon was just 40,000 troops. US strength at the Battle of Okinawa was 500,000. If those manpower strength numbers are any accurate, US commitment was definitely weak during the Korean war. Even putting aside nukes. By sometime in 1952, the US should have had the time to be ready to mobilize up to 1,000,000 men to go in. But I guess it just wasn't worth it for them. Chinese had a huge amount of manpower, but they didn't have the time to dig-in like how the Japanese were able to dig-in on Iwo Jima. Edited November 10, 2015 by JasonJ
Roman Alymov Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 On first court hearing he demanded to be accused of terrorism (probably regular vandalism is too little art for him), denying to cooperate with judge until his demand fulfilled. http://www.bfm.ru/news/307616 I think we in Russia will be very pleases if this guy given political asylum somewhere away from us.
Roman Alymov Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 Russia's International Reserves Are Modestly Rebounding http://www.forbes.com/sites/markadomanis/2015/10/14/russias-international-reserves-are-modestly-rebounding/
MiloMorai Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 Russia might be banned from the next Summer Olympic Games for the doping of athletes at the last games. http://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/34801325
bd1 Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 russian Ministry of Doping has denied all allegations of Sport
DB Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 Provisional ban in place. Not that it's at all important right now.
Roman Alymov Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 Local Nazi party raided by Russian police in Novosibirskhttp://lifenews.ru/news/170470
Leo Niehorster Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 In that case, it would be cool to see how they are made.
Roman Alymov Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 Article on memories from 1990thhttp://fortruss.blogspot.ru/2015/11/if-youre-so-smart-then-why-are-you-so.html
BansheeOne Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 US embassy corrections to fake letter published by "Izvestia" as proof of American conspiracy to out Kremlin officials as gay, offers to proofread future attempts. https://twitter.com/USEmbRu/status/667004897301291008/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
Fritz Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 It's so obviously written by a non-American even without the grammar issues.
swerve Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 Dammit, it's embarrassing when the bad guys are so amateurish. Can't they be proper enemies? Where's the fun in trashing 'em when they're so incompetent?
Marek Tucan Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 Well but it at least rehashes the old joke about the difference between Pravda and Izvestiya newspapers... "There are no news (izvestiya) in Pravda and there is no truth (pravda) in Izvestiya"
toysoldier Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 Damn, the old, tried trope about Russians not getting grammar articles... holds true.
Marek Tucan Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 Well yeah, the grammar articles are something rather foreign to Slavic languages, as you may have noticed in my posts (esp. the longer ones) - so we usually drop 'em, though there are people who are aware of that and overcompensate by sticking them everywhere
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