Because, Canada

[rmgill]

Go on..Gnash your teeth about it. 

[Stuart Galbraith]

No need. Ill just sit back and watch Rome burn, you hardly need my assistance for that.

[R011]

If there's one thing that unites Canadians of all political stripes is that we're not Americans.  There is no prospect that Canada will become part of the United States.

[glenn239]

1 hour ago, R011 said:

If there's one thing that unites Canadians of all political stripes is that we're not Americans.  There is no prospect that Canada will become part of the United States.

I think the calculation is that tariffs will hurt us deeply enough that the US will be able to dictate terms afterwards.  I've heard plenty of talk about fluff - interprovincial trade barriers and building pipelines, but no actual indication that anything serious is contemplated, like rolling back Indigenous rights to veto infastructure projects, cutting government spending, or having the government workforce take a haircut.

[Ivanhoe]

I like that haircut thing.

 

[R011]

10 minutes ago, Ivanhoe said:

I like that haircut thing.

 

Not the business of the US government.

[Stuart Galbraith]

On the negative side you get mass shootings, Mexican immigrants abd unafforable healthcare.

On the positive side, you get plastic straws back. Yay!

[sunday]

8 hours ago, Ivanhoe said:

I like that haircut thing.

 

Yeah, frigging hippies...

[Sinistar]

On 2/10/2025 at 4:24 PM, R011 said:

Not the business of the US government.

 

in theory or in practice it is-

that is what this whole usaid movie is showing

 

most of the world is either dependent upon or follows what the united states does

 

when biden either gave the order or put the contract out on nordstream

owners of the infrastructure went along with it

because

biden

when they get with that plan out of washington 

then that is what it is

as in what are they going to do not do it 

biden said it was going to happen so it happened

turn it around and what if trump had made some insinuation of it

then it looks different

trump did it so it is insane

when trudeu wanted to put some truckers out of business 

american policy makers assisted with it

the american government involved in canadian domestic disputes

 

this is not to give leave to any of it per se

but it is obviously the way things work

 

 

 

[glenn239]

Sinistarbot, are you trying to make things worse?   

[Sinistar]

well needless to say

i am sinistar

 

but it is worth mentioning the way this all works

trump's style is overt and of course he promised to shake things up

 

as opposed to the covert way of previous administrations operating or the use and abuse of the government

which was often viewed as legitimate or necessary including the gaslighting about what they were doing while doing it

 

you might fault trump for his actions

 

but you saw virtually no pushback against biden-

as in literally the united states assisting trudeau in breaking a trucker strike in canada- or maybe it was the other way around

 

the europeans are on cloud nine if policy wonks in washington d.c. might put them on a path to damage their economies

they have shown their tendency to obey as long as it was not trump doing it

 

and even now with all the information coming out over the last several years you see the way the operation works

and concepts of sovereignty or classical western ideals of freedom threatened once it conflicts with

messages from our respective governments

 

how solid is the whole thing really

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[rmgill]

Stuart, you’ve lauded and accepted 5eyes spying upon peer nation citizens. 

[glenn239]

3 hours ago, rmgill said:

Stuart, you’ve lauded and accepted 5eyes spying upon peer nation citizens. 

Why are you still trying to reason with a poster whose sole apparent agenda is to prevent the United States from acting in the interests of the United States?  

[Angrybk]

(For the record, am married to a Canadian, I go to the Laurentians for a month every year and Canada is my second-favorite country after the US). 

Went down a wiki hole about Starlight Tours after one of those "b-but Canadians are magical elves who can never do wrong") USAian arguments. That shit is absolutely horrifying, like I'm amazed they haven't made a horror movie out of it. And much more evidence than the Orphanage Mass Grave stuff. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saskatoon_freezing_deaths

[Sinistar]

a very slick tourism ad from the 1980s

tourism ads of these kind do not do much to inform travelers what they would actually experience

since the ads they are borderline fantasy

 

from one of the comments in the channel:

 

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By FAR the best Canada ad and one of the most inviting international - OR domestic - tourism ads EVER. Makes you wanna go right now, right? Having been there, though, I can say I didn't experience anything like what you see here. I did make memories, though.

 

 

[Sinistar]

it occurred to sinistar the show is more interesting without the stupid half time or in between performances of rapping and dancing and twerking performers

 

when the audience is more involved and is also the show

 

 

 

 

[R011]

23 hours ago, Angrybk said:

(For the record, am married to a Canadian, I go to the Laurentians for a month every year and Canada is my second-favorite country after the US). 

Went down a wiki hole about Starlight Tours after one of those "b-but Canadians are magical elves who can never do wrong") USAian arguments. That shit is absolutely horrifying, like I'm amazed they haven't made a horror movie out of it. And much more evidence than the Orphanage Mass Grave stuff. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saskatoon_freezing_deaths

Yeah, some Canadian cops can be assholes just like some cops elsewhere.  Most major police services in recent years have tried to do better.

And we have our share of criminals of all kinds including some really nasty ones like everyone else.

[rmgill]

Another perspective…

 

 

[Sinistar]

i certainly hope men pay attention to a lot of the messages in the below clip

ignore the thumbnail clickbait imagery

let the video rather speak for itself

 

it is not not per se a dig at canada since that is the message in the united states and the english speaking world which is to say the united kingdom and ireland, canada and australia

 

notice how many times it mentioned over and over this is about women versus men

and the men are just really rather passive and accept this role as a dog that women kick around

 

if you watch nothing else skip to 25:15

where the female is explaining that women need a permission structure to go against their husbands

this is how a lot of modern view themselves and you

you men are the enemy

this message is beating men down into a pulp

 

and so it is in fact as they say it is

because a lot of young men in the united states seeing all of this like never before

because of the internet and male spaces like this one hear at tanknet saying what you typically cannot say openly

 

which is why male spaces are usually maligned as where men get together to cause trouble

and need to be policed

 

 

 

Edited February 16 by Sinistar

[Ivanhoe]

[Ivanhoe]

https://nypost.com/2025/02/16/sports/canada-hockey-fans-boo-us-national-anthem-with-trudeau-in-crowd-before-americans-win-brawl-filled-showdown/
 

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Canadian hockey fans booed “The Star-Spangled Banner” — setting off a brawl-filled game that ended with a US win Saturday night.

The game of the NHL-run 4 Nations Face-Off tournament could have been mistaken for a boxing event — with three fist fights breaking out between American and Canadian players following the widespread booing of the US national anthem by over 20,000 angry fans.

 

 

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Gloves were torn off and fisticuffs flew between US star Matthew Tkachuk and Team Canada’s Brandon Hagel as soon as the first puck dropped — with two other fights breaking out in the seconds following the first bout. 

 

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A total of three fights took place in the first nine seconds of the game.

The NHL is so international these days. Seems to me the tourney should include Russia and the Czech Republic as well.

[Ivanhoe]

So it turns out there was a border scuffle up north, back in 1859, known as the Pig War;

https://web.archive.org/web/19980214012500/http://www.outwestnewspaper.com/pigwars.html

Looking at Google Maps of the region, the cartographers at the time did a good job dividing those islands. However, TIL there is a little 1.5x2 mile chunk of metro Van which is US territory. If you have OCD, do not look up Point Roberts in Google Maps.

[Ivanhoe]

Very small numbers to be sure, but kinda interesting;

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/theres-been-mysterious-surge-romanian-illegal-immigrants-crossing-canada-maine
 

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Attention is turning to "a recent mystery along the Maine section of the Canadian border".

In fact, in recent years, many of those caught illegally crossing into the state by Houlton Sector agents have been from Romania, according to Maine Public and Bangor Daily News.

Although Romanians accounted for less than 1% of nationwide border encounters last year, they make up a growing share in Maine’s Houlton Sector.

According to CBP data, Romanian encounters in the sector rose from 4% (13 of 303) in the 2023 fiscal year to 12% (40 of 344) last year and now stand at 13% (9 of 70) this fiscal year. While agents have encountered individuals from over a dozen countries, only Mexicans had a slightly higher share.

 

 

[Ivanhoe]

[Colin]

On 2/17/2025 at 6:44 AM, Ivanhoe said:

So it turns out there was a border scuffle up north, back in 1859, known as the Pig War;

https://web.archive.org/web/19980214012500/http://www.outwestnewspaper.com/pigwars.html

Looking at Google Maps of the region, the cartographers at the time did a good job dividing those islands. However, TIL there is a little 1.5x2 mile chunk of metro Van which is US territory. If you have OCD, do not look up Point Roberts in Google Maps.

It was Sir James Douglas saying "we will not go to war over a pig"

Pt Roberts is mostly Canadians taking advantage of lower taxes.

The stupid thing is that if we were absorbed, it would be 65 States and the GOP would only gain one of those new States, the Democrats would rule indefinitely. The other stupid thing is Trump is actually saving the Liberals from their own stupidity and might actually help keep them in power, which would go against his long term aims.