Because, Canada

[glenn239]

7 minutes ago, MiloMorai said:

The only fringe is where Ryan gets his news.

No, I see on the internet that Canadian banks did quietly go offline and its not clear why.  But I've not heard any rumours of a run in the bank industry.  I have some friends that work in it so I'll ask one of them next chance I get and post a report in a week or so.

[rmgill]

Given how bank runs are a psychological response, I could see why MSM would refuse to report on such and why the banks themselves would be tight lipped about it but scream to the government.
 

As to fringe News, is there any more afringe than news media insulated in their ivory towers? Let alone state news organs that report what they are supposed to report?

[R011]

4 hours ago, MiloMorai said:

The only fringe is where Ryan gets his news.

One thing you can rely on with mainstream media is that their business pages, at least the serious ones like in the Globe and Mail and National Post have to have reasonably good coverage because big money reads and uses them.  They can slant regular news and opinion, but the financial facts in the business section better be complete and accurate.  A bank run would be big news while a short, online outage resolved by the beginning of business next day is a couple of paragraphs and then forgotten.

[sunday]

Once Joe Public gets a whiff of a possible, small bank run, the bank run would be real, huge, and the financial system would be wrecked.

So yes, in this case information control beats transparency. One of the few instances.

[Colin]

If the Libs get a majority again, likley we will use my wife dual status to protect some of our assets. Being a gun owner and strongly anti-Liberal and anti-woke is going to get us labelled as Fringe at some point and we will need untouchable funds to pay for things. I have zero trust in the Liberals doing the right thing anymore. Neither does my wife who has recently gone from non-political to very political, because the crap going here reminds her to much of the crap she left behind in Malaysia. She also has health issues which prevent her from getting vaccinated and therefore that apparently makes her a loony fringe as well. 

[R011]

2 hours ago, sunday said:

Once Joe Public gets a whiff of a possible, small bank run, the bank run would be real, huge, and the financial system would be wrecked.

So yes, in this case information control beats transparency. One of the few instances.

Joe Public isn't generally reading the web sites claiming there's a bank run, so I rather suspect we're safe from one.

[R011]

15 minutes ago, Colin said:

If the Libs get a majority again, likley we will use my wife dual status to protect some of our assets. Being a gun owner and strongly anti-Liberal and anti-woke is going to get us labelled as Fringe at some point and we will need untouchable funds to pay for things. I have zero trust in the Liberals doing the right thing anymore. Neither does my wife who has recently gone from non-political to very political, because the crap going here reminds her to much of the crap she left behind in Malaysia. She also has health issues which prevent her from getting vaccinated and therefore that apparently makes her a loony fringe as well. 

Most of the public vaccine mandates will be gone in the next few weeks.  Unless your wife is planning on blocking traffic somewhere for weeks on end, she's going to be fine.

[sunday]

"If you have a clear conscience, then you have nothing to fear from the State"

Not the first time someone has discovered, to his grief, what a lie is that.

[Colin]

4 minutes ago, R011 said:

Most of the public vaccine mandates will be gone in the next few weeks.  Unless your wife is planning on blocking traffic somewhere for weeks on end, she's going to be fine.

Not in BC, and if you think the Libs are done with their attempts to impose a Social Credit system, then you are wrong. We are in the slow warmup to the boil phase. Neither my youngest or my wife is vaccinated due to health reasons, they can't get a exemption, because you almost have to be dead to get one, our doctor is sympathetic but her hands are tied and pushing for it will get her into trouble.

 

[R011]

11 minutes ago, sunday said:

"If you have a clear conscience, then you have nothing to fear from the State"

Not the first time someone has discovered, to his grief, what a lie is that.

That's generally true in Western countries including Canada.  That's no more likely to change under a Liberal majority than it changed last time they had one from 2015 to 2019.

[sunday]

2 minutes ago, R011 said:

That's generally true in Western countries including Canada.  That's no more likely to change under a Liberal majority than it changed last time they had one from 2015 to 2019.

Please, that could be true twenty years ago, not now.

Around here in Spain one could go to jail for breaking a speed limit in a car, even if nobody gets harmed and nothing got damaged.

One could be also fired from his job because some un-PC tweets.

One could not carry a folding knife with a blade longer than 3 inches in UK.

In Germany, folding knifes that could be opened with one hand are banned.

On the matter of gun laws in Canada, Colin and/or you should know more than me.

Etc.

[R011]

9 minutes ago, sunday said:

Please, that could be true twenty years ago, not now.

Around here in Spain one could go to jail for breaking a speed limit in a car, even if nobody gets harmed and nothing got damaged.

One could be also fired from his job because some un-PC tweets.

One could not carry a folding knife with a blade longer than 3 inches in UK.

In Germany, folding knifes that could be opened with one hand are banned.

On the matter of gun laws in Canada, Colin and/or you should know more than me.

Etc.

You mean break laws passed by democratically elected representatives that have been approved by independent courts.  Hardly the same as being arrested at the whim of unrepresentative authority, and do note, one can lobby freely to have those laws overturned within very wide and reasonable limits - like refraining from setting fires and looting or occupying a city centre for weeks.

[Colin]

1 hour ago, R011 said:

That's generally true in Western countries including Canada.  That's no more likely to change under a Liberal majority than it changed last time they had one from 2015 to 2019.

Unless your a gun owner, then your clearly a fringe member and not to be trusted

[R011]

3 minutes ago, Colin said:

Unless your a gun owner, then your clearly a fringe member and not to be trusted

Exactly how is this lack of trust affecting you outside being unable to own the guns you want and having to store and transport the ones you have in an approved way?  Are you denied employment?  Restricted in movement?  Unable to get documents like licences or passports?  Under police surveillance?  Prevented by government in expressing your opinions?

[rmgill]

2 hours ago, Colin said:

Unless your a gun owner, then your clearly a fringe member and not to be trusted

If you guys want a sponsor for US citizenship....Several US of Sam are willing. You could probably also work in a vacation home and move most of your arms south. The Chinese ones may be an issue. But you can easily replace them all. 
 

Edited February 26, 2022 by rmgill

[rmgill]

2 hours ago, R011 said:

Exactly how is this lack of trust affecting you outside being unable to own the guns you want and having to store and transport the ones you have in an approved way?  Are you denied employment?  Restricted in movement?  Unable to get documents like licences or passports?  Under police surveillance?  Prevented by government in expressing your opinions?

When the Head in sand brigade are no longer fringe.....there are problems on the horizon. 

[EchoFiveMike]

3 hours ago, rmgill said:

If you guys want a sponsor for US citizenship....Several US of Sam are willing. You could probably also work in a vacation home and move most of your arms south. The Chinese ones may be an issue. But you can easily replace them all. 
 

No, stop providing a vent, stop putting another half assed patch on the problem.

More, harder, faster.  S/F....Ken M

[Colin]

6 hours ago, R011 said:

Exactly how is this lack of trust affecting you outside being unable to own the guns you want and having to store and transport the ones you have in an approved way?  Are you denied employment?  Restricted in movement?  Unable to get documents like licences or passports?  Under police surveillance?  Prevented by government in expressing your opinions?

They are about to be seized if they continue with the legislation, we are the canary in the coal mine, remember when we were told that we were nuts and they are not coming for our gun? Well they lied and we were correct. Fintrac will be expanded. Already you cannot speak your mind or risk unemployment, we are being slowly boiled.

[rmgill]

34 minutes ago, EchoFiveMike said:

No, stop providing a vent, stop putting another half assed patch on the problem.

More, harder, faster.  S/F....Ken M

Hey if we can ship our lefties off to Canada and we can get the sandy Canadians, I'd call that a win. 

Hell I'd be fine with trading China for all of their Right leaning Hong Kong types and we can ship all the pussy hat wearing lefties. 

[R011]

10 hours ago, Colin said:

They are about to be seized if they continue with the legislation, we are the canary in the coal mine, remember when we were told that we were nuts and they are not coming for our gun? Well they lied and we were correct. Fintrac will be expanded. Already you cannot speak your mind or risk unemployment, we are being slowly boiled.

Being fired for wrong political speech isn't new and has never been protected.  Mind you, it used to be that people who said dumb shit only told their friends and didn't broadcast it to the world wearing their employers logo on their shirt.

[sunday]

17 minutes ago, R011 said:

Being fired for wrong political speech isn't new and has never been protected.  Mind you, it used to be that people who said dumb shit only told their friends and didn't broadcast it to the world wearing their employers logo on their shirt.

Plenty of Leftists instructors, ever full professors, were employed in the Spanish university system during Franco's regime.

[Stargrunt6]

21 hours ago, Colin said:

If the Libs get a majority again, likley we will use my wife dual status to protect some of our assets. Being a gun owner and strongly anti-Liberal and anti-woke is going to get us labelled as Fringe at some point and we will need untouchable funds to pay for things. I have zero trust in the Liberals doing the right thing anymore. Neither does my wife who has recently gone from non-political to very political, because the crap going here reminds her to much of the crap she left behind in Malaysia. She also has health issues which prevent her from getting vaccinated and therefore that apparently makes her a loony fringe as well. 

As a child of immigrants, it's dreadful to watch the same playbook that happened in many parts of Latin America happen here. 

21 hours ago, sunday said:

"If you have a clear conscience, then you have nothing to fear from the State"

Not the first time someone has discovered, to his grief, what a lie is that.

During the heyday of evangelical Christianity, I had many run-ins with fanatic converts who just couldn't wait to pin something on you. I got yelled at because I said I liked Kingdom of Heaven by some jerk at my church who never even saw the movie.

21 hours ago, Colin said:

Not in BC, and if you think the Libs are done with their attempts to impose a Social Credit system, then you are wrong. We are in the slow warmup to the boil phase. Neither my youngest or my wife is vaccinated due to health reasons, they can't get a exemption, because you almost have to be dead to get one, our doctor is sympathetic but her hands are tied and pushing for it will get her into trouble.

 

BC seems to be taken over by weapons-grade woke. In addition to the PRC, of course.  But, about the wokesters, I've read so many articles on Quillette about how they just ruin the lives of normal people.

[MiloMorai]

BC has always been a "nutters" place.

[DB]

Please, with "British" in the name, you're required to describe it as "eccentric".

[Colin]

2 hours ago, MiloMorai said:

BC has always been a "nutters" place.

"Left" Coast. I swear it's rot from the rain......

Historical to get settlers out this way, the Brits encouraged all sorts of nutbar sects to come out and settle, hence the reason we have Finnish community, among other oddities.