Because, Canada

[R011]

6 hours ago, TonyE said:

Meanwhile in Canuckistan, statues of Queen Elisabeth II and Queen Victoria are torned down by the neo-iconoclastic crowd:

 

Presumably it was because residential schools were operated by governments that were technically theirs  That they had no input and little information on the formation or running of those schools doesn't matter to them, even if they are aware of this.

 

I'm waiting for things honouring more recent prominent Canadian politicians who didn't end abuses on those schools immediately on taking office. Places like the main international airport of Montreal, for instance named for the father of the current PM.

[Stuart Galbraith]

10 hours ago, Ivanhoe said:

Perhaps in the fevered minds of some statuephobes, Lizzy is a closet Papist.

 

Well she does have a funny walk, so maybe...

[Ivanhoe]

7 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Well she does have a funny walk, so maybe...

I've always had a suspicion that the Tower of London has soft cushions.

 

[sunday]

7 hours ago, Ivanhoe said:

I've always had a suspicion that the Tower of London has soft cushions.

 

Nah, those belong to refined judicial systems like the Spanish Inquisition. English courts were used to torture first and ask later.

[Ivanhoe]

2 hours ago, sunday said:

Nah, those belong to refined judicial systems like the Spanish Inquisition. English courts were used to torture first and ask later.

By modern international law, traditional English cooking is no longer considered torture.

 

[sunday]

"Let them eat kidney pie!"

[Coldsteel]

On 7/3/2021 at 3:44 AM, TonyE said:

Meanwhile in Canuckistan, statues of Queen Elisabeth II and Queen Victoria are torned down by the neo-iconoclastic crowd:

 

Well I don't wish to be misunderstood as supporting these misogynists, but it might be a good thing that these important representations of strong powerful women be demolished so that young girls don't get ideas above their station.

[Stuart Galbraith]

8 hours ago, sunday said:

Nah, those belong to refined judicial systems like the Spanish Inquisition. English courts were used to torture first and ask later.

Go tell that to Jesus, he will be thrilled.

[Adam Peter]

On 7/2/2021 at 8:57 PM, sunday said:

Are the kids being actually killed now less important than the ones that died of mostly unknown causes during the last few hundred years?

Maybe they are wanted by their parents to be killed, while the rest was wanted alive by the parents but not by the RCC.

On 7/4/2021 at 7:44 AM, Coldsteel said:

Well I don't wish to be misunderstood as supporting these misogynists, but it might be a good thing that these important representations of strong powerful women be demolished so that young girls don't get ideas above their station.

Finally they follow their southern neighbor. What the states united will be called? U2SA?

[sunday]

1 minute ago, Adam Peter said:

Maybe they are wanted by their parents to be killed,

So parents have the right to kill their children, according to you.

You know, the power of life and death upon the members of his family was one of the most barbaric things the Roman Paterfamilias had. 

Are you also for parental abuse of children? Rape? Incest?

[Ivanhoe]

On 7/4/2021 at 12:44 AM, Coldsteel said:

Well I don't wish to be misunderstood as supporting these misogynists, but it might be a good thing that these important representations of strong powerful women be demolished so that young girls don't get ideas above their station.

Since Boudica was paler than those swarthy Romans, I assume she will be thrown under the bus sooner or later. Plus, she was hetero, thus a second strike.

 

[Coldsteel]

7 hours ago, Ivanhoe said:

Since Boudica was paler than those swarthy Romans, I assume she will be thrown under the bus sooner or later. Plus, she was hetero, thus a second strike.

 

Also she wanted those Italians to go back to where they came from. Staunchly anti-immigrant. Strike three, we're done here.

[Stuart Galbraith]

7 hours ago, Ivanhoe said:

Since Boudica was paler than those swarthy Romans, I assume she will be thrown under the bus sooner or later. Plus, she was hetero, thus a second strike.

 

Nah, she killed the White Males that raped her Daughters, so thats considered a strike against the Patriarchy. That and she burned down Londinium. A bit of urban violence is always appreciated by the far left.

Even Queen Victoria can be appreciated by BLM, in that she had a war against those notorious White Racists, the Boers. And even Queen Elizabeth II was once snubbed for tea by Ian Smith.

 

[Ivanhoe]

3 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Nah, she killed the White Males that raped her Daughters, so thats considered a strike against the Patriarchy. That and she burned down Londinium. A bit of urban violence is always appreciated by the far left.

Even Queen Victoria can be appreciated by BLM, in that she had a war against those notorious White Racists, the Boers. And even Queen Elizabeth II was once snubbed for tea by Ian Smith.

 

Trying to inject historical facts into Critical Theory propaganda is just the sort of cis-white-male bigotry we're trying to eliminate.

[Stuart Galbraith]

My bad. Ill go pack for the Salt Mines right away.

[rmgill]

Is the Mass graves conclusion premature? 

If the graveyards were used by both the community AND the school, does that change how things were? 

Looking through this it is interesting that so far all that was done was ground penetrating radar to find unmarked graves. How do you get to that being indicative of deliberate abuse alone? There's an unmarked grave yard not a mile from my house. There was a survey done not too long back and I read the report. Apparently the church fell into disuse and the graveyard was so unattended with many of the markers being originally in wood that the cemetery is entirely unmarked from the surface. It was only some folks looking at old road survey maps that discovered it had been there at all with follow on road work apparently having straightened the road in part over the cemetery. 

https://tnc.news/2021/07/07/six-things-the-media-got-wrong-about-the-graves-found-near-residential-schools/?fbclid=IwAR328h8F1Ir0x-r2rrKhZi_SdeztmI2mJl_xoaeIA6xq-BEZ32cJILsgOiI

[glenn239]

1 hour ago, rmgill said:

Is the Mass graves conclusion premature? 

If the graveyards were used by both the community AND the school, does that change how things were? 

We're awaiting the results of field investigations, but this will take time and our media has long jumped to conclusions.

[T19]

even the native band chiefs are saying unmarked graves, not mass graves, and they have know for years its the WOKE white ones that this is news for

[rmgill]

51 minutes ago, T19 said:

even the native band chiefs are saying unmarked graves, not mass graves, and they have know for years its the WOKE white ones that this is news for

Unmarked graves is a reason to be burning down churches and toppling statutes? 

We have lots of unmarked graves all over north America. It doesn't pre-suppose some vast outrage, it can be as simple as poorly marked at the start and noone tending the cemetery for a generation or two and it's easily forgotten about. 

[glenn239]

35 minutes ago, rmgill said:

Unmarked graves is a reason to be burning down churches and toppling statutes? 

Our federal leadership currently is about as weak as its ever been, and all sorts of groups are protesting more and more aggressively. 

[R011]

There shouldn't be any surprise that grave sites are present.  As the article points out, most of them were known graveyards and some seem to be community cemeteries rather than mass graves of children.

The fact is, though, that residential schools were intended to cause cultural genocide, mistreatment was common, and thousands of kids died who should not have.  The outrage should have been when the 2015 report on the schools was issued.

[glenn239]

 I see on CNN this morning that this story has spilled over into the US and they're looking for unmarked indigenous graves now south of the border as well.

[Yama]

Such practises were not limited to North America, of course. Many European countries had similar doctrines regarding natives and minorities. For example, Nordic countries had pretty similar assimilation policy towards the Saami as Canada had, though maybe somewhat less severe.

[Stuart Galbraith]

The UK had a policy in the 50s of removing children from single mothers and problem families, and shipping them off to Australia, put in homes, where they were abused. It seemed like a good idea, give them new lives in a new environment..

[TrustMe]

They did that with orphaned children after WW2 in 1945. How evil or what. And that was under a labour government !