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Well that’s just dandy. Combine that with the Chinese Biolab found in California, I am so glad the FBI is spending time on the important things like angry PTA meetings. 

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Are you not entertained?

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For you race car fans, on this date in 1909, the inaugural race occurred at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, the "Indy 500." This first race was won by Louis Schwitzer with an average speed of 57 m.p.h. / 92 k.p.h.

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I'm thinking Myrtle Beach is on the map due to it being a resort town; drunken brawls, muggings, etc. 

 

Also keep in mind Disraeli's purported bon mot about statistics;

https://www.wlbt.com/2023/01/07/analysis-second-straight-year-jacksons-homicide-rate-ranks-highest-us-among-major-cities/

 

 

 

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I assume the rightmost column is homicides per 100,000, which is the tragic metric used for these things in the US for some reason. 

 

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43 minutes ago, urbanoid said:

Hmm...

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Well, South Fulton, GA and Jackson, MS are 80+ percent black, with Miami Gardens, FL and Montgomery, AL still 60+, yet they don't show up on the map. Meanwhile Tacoma, Kansas City, Minneapolis, and both Danville and Kalamazoo, MI are all around 60 percent white but do, so that tells us exactly nothing.

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4 minutes ago, BansheeOne said:

Well, South Fulton, GA and Jackson, MS are 80+ percent black, with Miami Gardens, FL and Montgomery, AL still 60+, yet they don't show up on the map. Meanwhile Tacoma, Kansas City, Minneapolis, and both Danville and Kalamazoo, MI are all around 60 percent white but do, so that tells us exactly nothing.

Wiki:

In 2022, for the second year in row Jackson had the highest homicide rate per capita in the United States.

Different site:

Thinking about moving to this illustrious Atlanta suburb, but wondering if South Fulton, GA is a safe place to live? South Fulton’s overall crime rate is 57.9% higher than the national average. The property crime rate is 36.7% higher than the national average. Meanwhile, the violent crime rate is 164.8% higher than the national average.

https://wirksmoving.com/blog/moving-to-living-in-south-fulton-ga/

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I'm sure the statistics are around somewhere, but I believe a more accurate perpetrator of violent crime indicator is:

1. Father in the house, ie a two parent home.

2. Regular church attendance.

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48 minutes ago, BansheeOne said:

Well, South Fulton, GA and Jackson, MS are 80+ percent black, with Miami Gardens, FL and Montgomery, AL still 60+, yet they don't show up on the map. Meanwhile Tacoma, Kansas City, Minneapolis, and both Danville and Kalamazoo, MI are all around 60 percent white but do, so that tells us exactly nothing.

The first infograph is showing all violent crime.  If we look at just homicide rates the list will be different.  Still, I agree with you that racial composition isn't the big issue but a byprodcut of the bigger one - economic (Blacks are the poorest racial group in America which is why more of them show up in these stats).

When looking at that first infograph a bunch of thoughts pop up.

- The majority of these locations are in the Rust Belt and the South.  Both these areas have either had massive regression in their local economy in recent decades (Rust Belt) or were never great spots to begin with economically (the South).
- You would think CA would show up more.  Even with the mass exodus of folks from the state due to cost of living CA is still the most populous state in the union (~1 in 8 Americans live there).  Yet when you pull up homicide rates per state CA is in the middle of the pack... lower than even TX and FL.
- That's probably another factor as to why most of these places are in the Rust Belt and the South... population density coupled to poor economic opportunity.  A majority of Americans live E of the Mississippi River.  Outside of CA and TX everything W of that river is largely... empty.
- Which brings me to the last point... I'm intrigued by those anomolies in NM, CO, and WA.  When looking at homicide rates by state NM is actually in the top 10 (most of the top 10 are southern states which coupled with the above highlight the nonsense argument many on here push that crime is just due to locales being run by Ds).  What in the world is going on in NM?  I've actually read some interesting stuff over the years with how weather can play a part in crime.  It's not the sole issue... but if overall economic opportunity is poor coupled to terrible weather apparently that's a recipe for bad things.  This might explain why CA isn't worse... because generally good weather coupled to a decent economy (even if it is crazy expensive).

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33 minutes ago, Rick said:

I'm sure the statistics are around somewhere, but I believe a more accurate perpetrator of violent crime indicator is:

1. Father in the house, ie a two parent home.

2. Regular church attendance.

Agree with 1.  I've mentioned this a few times but a small number of places released prisoners early, even violent ones, due to COVID a few years back.  They noted that crime went down in the areas (mostly poor and Black) these criminals went to.  Contrast this with the spike in crime when COVID started.  The theory was the sudden influx of older male role models in areas where there are effectively none may have had a positive impact.

I'm not sold on the second point.  A high % of blacks claim to be religious and if we're looking at actual church attendance if that was any indicator of violent behavior than NE Phoenix would be one of the most violent places in the country (lots of empty churches up here outside of Easter and Christmas)... but that's not the case.  As I mentioned above I'd rate the local economic situation as a more likely indicator.

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Multiple factors, but there is no getting away from demographics. Which is interesting when you look at decade-scale info. For example, photos of the inmates at San Quentin, Folsom, etc from the 1950s, when most of the prison population was apparently white. 

Some small/medium size cities like Jackson MS are going through a "death spiral" scenario. Economic contraction along with rising crime drives out the middle class, remaining residents vote in activist politicians who underfund police, which results in changed perceptions of risk/benefit for criminals, lather rinse repeat. 

If you look at videos of such cities, you'll see trash everywhere, terrible roads, abandoned business buildings and houses, etc. 

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