AttilaA Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Destroyed Armenian T-72s. Looks like all of them were hit on top of the tower. Spike? Is this the first time it's been used against tanks in combat? Very possible. Armenians confirmed the loss of 14 tanks, a serious number IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 A Pz IV split in half Another one That was pretty common, certainly with the late ones anyway. There is a whole host of PZIVs in 'Panzers in Normandy' and something like half of them in the book came unglued when the ammunition detonated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillB Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 A Pz IV split in half Another one That was pretty common, certainly with the late ones anyway. There is a whole host of PZIVs in 'Panzers in Normandy' and something like half of them in the book came unglued when the ammunition detonated. Agreed, also noted that. IIRC the 76mm armed T34s had a habit of popping their turrets under the same circumstances which has carried over to T72s, presumably due to the autoloader stowage? BillB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOW-2 Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 A Pz IV split in half Another one That was pretty common, certainly with the late ones anyway. There is a whole host of PZIVs in 'Panzers in Normandy' and something like half of them in the book came unglued when the ammunition detonated. Yeah; a couple pages back I posted a picture of one who's top half is hanging in a nearby tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scj1014 Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Hi...Lots of images of Sherman tanks with the turrets blown off, as well. Kind of to be expected...fuel and ammunition cooking off in a confined space. There do seem to be somewhat fewer images of Tigers and Panthers missing turrets...obviously, it happened to them as well. Perhaps the larger heavier turrets simply didn't leave the vehicle as often...or maybe the fact that there were fewer of those vehicles limits the opportunity to photograph examples of such destruction. What has always interested me is the relatively small numbers of T-34s we see with penetrations of the front glacis plate. Same holds true of SU-85s and SU-100s.As fond as the Germans were of photographing destroyed Soviet armor, you would think that more such photos would exist. Of course, as the war turned against the Germans they would have fewer and fewer opportunities to examine destroyed T34s, as the Soviets would recover their damaged and destroyed vehicles as they advanced. I'm sure the Soviets photographed many of their own destroyed vehicles for research purposes but, there would be no value in publicizing such photos for morale or propaganda purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scj1014 Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 (edited) Deleted....double post. Edited April 6, 2016 by scj1014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alejandro_ Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 What has always interested me is the relatively small numbers of T-34s we see with penetrations of the front glacis plate. Same holds true of SU-85s and SU-100s. SU-85 and SU-100 I am not surprised. As you said, they were fielded in 1943-45, when Germany was retreating. This meant that there were no chances for photographs and souvenirs. Soviet soldiers did not have many photo cameras. This not only applies to SU-85/100 or T-34. There are not that many Panzer IV/V either... I guess large numbers were simply abandoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Don't forget that Shermans and Panzer IVs were rather more common than Tigers and Panthers. More targets, more pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter_Sobchak Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Has this picture been posted before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr King Posted April 7, 2016 Author Share Posted April 7, 2016 Is that Iraqi or American? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKTanker Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Is that Iraqi or American?I'm going with Iraqi. If American would have been seen beforeOld style flex mount .50 mount without additional armor shieldsNo velcro for MILESNo velcro for Combat ID Panels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billman Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 I feel it would be wrong to try and identify this tank by velcro, as it could have burn off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damian Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 (edited) It is USMC tank, look at smoke granades dischargers, typical for USMC ones. Edited April 8, 2016 by Damian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKTanker Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 (edited) . Edited April 9, 2016 by DKTanker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKTanker Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 (edited) As you can see in this image, the velcro and velcro glue strip are noticeable on the turret front and underneath the turret stowage box. Edited April 9, 2016 by DKTanker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKTanker Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 It is USMC tank, look at smoke grenades dischargers, typical for USMC ones.Good catch. That would ID it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnr Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 A Pz IV split in half Another one That was pretty common, certainly with the late ones anyway. There is a whole host of PZIVs in 'Panzers in Normandy' and something like half of them in the book came unglued when the ammunition detonated. How were turrets secured on German tanks, I would have thought that the turret should have 'popped off' first before ripping apart the whole tank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AttilaA Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Armenian T-72. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMwQXEkuFfQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbo Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 (edited) Hi...Lots of images of Sherman tanks with the turrets blown off, as well. Kind of to be expected...fuel and ammunition cooking off in a confined space. There do seem to be somewhat fewer images of Tigers and Panthers missing turrets...obviously, it happened to them as well. Perhaps the larger heavier turrets simply didn't leave the vehicle as often...or maybe the fact that there were fewer of those vehicles limits the opportunity to photograph examples of such destruction. I dont recall seeing that many pictures of turret-less Shermans? I was under the impression, that in many cases, ammunition fires tended to blow out the bottom of the sponsons, venting the pressure that way. IIRC you see the same thing with Panthers. In case of the Panzer IV, the superstructure was in two parts, both designed to be unbolted and lifted of the hull. So possibly, the turret had a stronger hold on the superstructure than the superstructure had on the hull. That would not be the case with the Panther and Tiger I/II. And of course, some times the really bad damage does not come from battle damage but from demolition charges. There is a series of Panzer III wreck pictures here, that shows several variations: - Turret roof blown off- Turret blown off- Superstructure blown off If the website is to be believed, the worst damage comes from demolition jobs. Edited April 9, 2016 by cbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbo Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Wonder what pock-marked this StuG III? https://www.flickr.com/photos/deckarudo/25011544340/in/photostream/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AttilaA Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 (edited) Armenian T-72. It seems like it was this tank in the video. Probably a hit from Spike. Edited April 10, 2016 by AttilaA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS264-252 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Hope not a repost: http://englishrussia.com/2016/03/25/tank-apocalypse-in-donbass/ Pictures of tanks destroyed in Donbass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Falcon Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 This Jaysh al Fateh manned tank on the Ghab Plain in Syria suffered an ammo explosion so powerful it blew off the turret roof: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaarin7 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 In reference to the Pz IV pictures earlier. The original design was to allow the upper hull and turret to be unbolted for railroad transport. As far as I know that was never done however also the capability was never removed. So the bolts and the seam would be weaker than the wielding around the superstructure and usually release first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 In Libya wreck is good: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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