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There was a visit by a Japanese cruiser to Portsmouth in 1935 IIRC. The guy who eventually sank it, Lt Cdr Hezlett IIRC, found a copy of the photograph of the ship visiting in a Portsmouth shop, and sent a copy to the commander of the combined submarine forces in the pacific.

Sad, but there we are. We have all grown up  from the idea fighting over Empires is a good idea. Sadly China and Russia have not.

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Perhaps this has been answered in a previous post or topic, but why does Britain, or the French for that matter, need an aircraft carrier?

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8 hours ago, Rick said:

Perhaps this has been answered in a previous post or topic, but why does Britain, or the French for that matter, need an aircraft carrier?

Power projection, both countries have overseas interests and defense needs that don't line up with the US strategic goals.

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1 hour ago, Colin said:

Power projection, both countries have overseas interests and defense needs that don't line up with the US strategic goals.

 

25 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Because Falklands and Suez.

I fully admit to not following foreign affairs much, but what vitally important, or maybe just important overseas interests do Britain and France have that require an aircraft carrier?

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1 hour ago, Rick said:

 

I fully admit to not following foreign affairs much, but what vitally important, or maybe just important overseas interests do Britain and France have that require an aircraft carrier?

France has a lot of colonies in the Pacific. Tahiti, New Caledonia, etc. Those are not only important because of tourism - New Caledonia has 25% a significant proportion of world nickel reserves. Have a look here, for instance.

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1 hour ago, sunday said:

France has a lot of colonies in the Pacific. Tahiti, New Caledonia, etc. Those are not only important because of tourism - New Caledonia has 25% a significant proportion of world nickel reserves. Have a look here, for instance.

Thank you. Did not know New Caledonia was still French. 

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You will see some reports in the media about how she is effectively a  'scrapyard'. Its not true. There is some parts recovery going on to help keep QE operational, but its far from a scrapyard. As said, its going to take time.

Hope the guy in MOD who was monitoring this stage during build gets fired.

 

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Story now is that port and starboard props need work.

Scavenging parts from PoW for QE is acknowledged, but primarily for items that need a tender process to replace, allowing for continued ops for QE.

There is no suggestion that parts removed are not being replaced.

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My guess is that the support for the shaft bearings or the seals were misaligned or inadequate. They all need to be cut out, replace or realigned. It also depends on the damage to the shaft. If a new shaft(s) are required, then that is a long lead item and will take time to make, transport, inspect and install.. 

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While the real treasure is his experience, I first thought the video was about Canada getting Nimrods.

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On 5/20/2023 at 4:42 AM, shep854 said:

While the real treasure is his experience, I first thought the video was about Canada getting Nimrods.

Canada is being arm twisted into getting P8's which hopefully we are forced to do.

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Just another example of the RN taking a Canard, the desire to operate UAV's, and others trying to turn it into a full deck carrier. It wont work, because we cant afford it, but I can see the utility to operate UAV's makes sense. Just as long as they dont get carried away and try to turn her into the Ark Royal.

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I remember one video that claimed that the QEs still had CATOBAR capability baked in, kind of a 'for but not with' idea.  I thought that was a stretch.

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They had room for it designed in, but as others have said, is probably been reutlized for other things.

A small system for landing drones? Can entirely see that. Cant see the value in butchering a perfectly good carrier to land F35C, when we struggle to buy F35B anyway. Its pointless.

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