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At one time the UK was interested in buying a few V-22 Ospreys. I take it that has passed into oblivion?

 

 

They have talked themselves out of it. Ultimately, we cant afford it.

 

We have chinooks we could use for COD I guess.

 

 

The only ones who still think they can have V-22 wear funny coloured berets.

 

 

I think the V-22 would have made a good one for one replacement for the now retired Commando Sea Kings to taxi the Royal Marines around, but with no money in the purse that is dead.

 

What is so funny about green berets? :huh:

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I would imagine that the USMC's Harriers are on their last legs.

 

2025, they have said previously they could keep going till 2030. There have been rumour's that they may convert at least some of the ex RAF fleet sold to them for spares into flyable aircraft. And of course as we know due to Treasury constipation, we withdrew those airframes with over a decade of life left on them.

https://news.usni.org/2014/11/03/u-s-marines-retire-harrier-fleet-early-planned-extend-life-hornets

 

 

 

At one time the UK was interested in buying a few V-22 Ospreys. I take it that has passed into oblivion?

 

 

They have talked themselves out of it. Ultimately, we cant afford it.

 

We have chinooks we could use for COD I guess.

 

 

The only ones who still think they can have V-22 wear funny coloured berets.

 

 

I think the V-22 would have made a good one for one replacement for the now retired Commando Sea Kings to taxi the Royal Marines around, but with no money in the purse that is dead.

 

What is so funny about green berets? :huh:

 

 

We already have Merlin's that can do that, though some of them have been put back into ASW work I gather. Top and bottom of it, we have a helicopter manufacturer going slowly bust wanting orders, we have a dire need for more helo's, and no money to buy them. Only in Britain. When Leonardo finally goes bust, they will probably put projects in place to convert all those whom worked there into Burger King operatives.

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Saudi Arabia is obligated to purchase political and security assurances from the United States in the form of purchases of big-ticket equipment from the U.S. defense sector.

 

Japan and Japanese are under a similar obligation. To a lesser extent in terms of how blatant the obligation is, but to a greater extent in terms of Japan's economic, industrial, and technological capability versus lesser nations incapable of developing their own kit, such as the aforementioned Saudis.

 

The UK's obligation in this regard is even less. If a domestically produced solution is possible (and I see no reason why it would not be), London should choose it.

 

There will come a day when Japan will do the same.

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We wont sustain UK defence industry though. We pat it on the head, tell it how important it is, then every time there is a budget shortfall cut the legs off it. Witness whats happening to Leonardo, or what happened to VDS.

 

There is even less reason to buy domestically produced British weapons, now BAE own quite so much of the US Defence establishment.

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Big Liz was modular construction too. Flight decks were built at Cammel Laird I gather.

 

http://www.aircraftcarrieralliance.co.uk/hms-prince-of-wales/latest-news/2015/cammell-laird-delivers-its-final-carrier-block

 

 

Is not submersible. Is so big you can see the tower over the horizon. :P

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Apparently the first non-US weapon test. Note this is external carriage and the interesting launcher AOA.

https://www.mbda-systems.com/press-releases/f-35-successfully-conducts-first-firings-of-mbdas-asraam/

Yeah...airflow demands funny-looking solutions. External first shot makes sense; having a gremlin show up in the weapons bay would be less than optimal.

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https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/first-f-35-jets-land-on-hms-queen-elizabeth/

 

 


F-35 jets have landed on aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth for the first time.

This event marks the first time an F-35 has ever landed on a non-American vessel and it helps bring an end to the eight-year hiatus since a British aircraft carrier last operated a fast jet from its deck.

 

On the 25th of September Royal Navy Commander Nathan Gray made history by being the first to land an F-35B on HMS Queen Elizabeth.

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