shep854 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Some music: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 (edited) At the risk of being classified as an old fart, I can remember this series when it was repeated in 1980. Still one of the best opening sequences of a documentary ever. Shame they changed the music on the DVD version for Copyright reasons. Edited April 30, 2018 by Stuart Galbraith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Here we go, part 3.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sfC_c_Qa28Â https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epn2mwSkqhM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 I wish season 2 of Warship would be posted on YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Ive only ever seen one episode of that, and it was notable how much time they spend in the Wardroom toasting the Queen. Which was probably an accurate depiction of the Royal Navy in the 1970's I guess. Â Dont know if you have seen this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 (edited) Yes, I've seen it. Sooo '70s... Â I can't make hide nor hair of Queen Elizabeth's chain of command. It sounds as if there's the Captain, then a mash of commanders. with #1 only being mentioned in the third episode!----Regarding personnel aboard; will the aviation component be separate from ship's actual crew and if so, how many will that add to the complement? In the US Navy, this is the case where air wings are separate units that rotate on and off the ship according to their own duty cycles. Edited May 3, 2018 by shep854 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018  No biggie; that's what the shakedown cruise is for Stethoscopes would have been handy. You'd think with a ship that big, some of the engineer's kit would include sensors and gauges for measuring runout of the shaft, vibration with transducers for each bearing housing and sensors that would tell you when you had things like a dragging shaft brake.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Yes, I've seen it. Sooo '70s... Â I can't make hide nor hair of Queen Elizabeth's chain of command. It sounds as if there's the Captain, then a mash of commanders. with #1 only being mentioned in the third episode!----Regarding personnel aboard; will the aviation component be separate from ship's actual crew and if so, how many will that add to the complement? In the US Navy, this is the case where air wings are separate units that rotate on and off the ship according to their own duty cycles.I think its like Star Trek. You have the Captain, Scotty the Chief engineer, the Hobnob providers, and everyone else is ensign expendable. Â The latter is a good question. I dont actually know. I suspect the servicing team will come on board with the squadron's, which is how I suspect the RAF did it before when they had Harriers. I guess a large mount of it really comes down to how they intend to use the F35B's when they arent embarked on ship. There has yet to be much said about that. We dont even know if the RAF will ever practice dispersed land basing with it, as they did with the Harrier, which would demand its own servicing team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 (edited) In the wobbly clip, it's clear that there is a mixture of crew, contractors and probably a bunch of uniformed engineering types associated with trials acceptance. Not sure how it all works at ship level. As for the actual shaft issue, that could easily be a matter of the excitable presentation style that makes good tv. Much less interesting if someone says "sounds like the disk brake is dragging, let's have that panel off". Edited May 3, 2018 by DB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 (edited) On a related note, 617 Squadron stand back up. I look forward to seeing how a Lancaster handles the Ski Jump. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/iconic-dambusters-squadron-being-reformed-with-the-rafs-new-f35-lightning-ii-warplanes-announces-government/ar-AAw0FI7 Edited May 3, 2018 by Stuart Galbraith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Sea Mosquitos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Who needs A-6's anyway? Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anixtu Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Yes, I've seen it. Sooo '70s...  I can't make hide nor hair of Queen Elizabeth's chain of command. It sounds as if there's the Captain, then a mash of commanders. with #1 only being mentioned in the third episode!----Regarding personnel aboard; will the aviation component be separate from ship's actual crew and if so, how many will that add to the complement? In the US Navy, this is the case where air wings are separate units that rotate on and off the ship according to their own duty cycles.I haven't had a look at the videos yet, but I'd expect many of the department heads to be CDRs. I believe COs on the Invincibles (in later years) were substantive Rear Admirals or Commodores wearing the lower rank of Captain. XO, MEO, maybe LSO, Aviation department head all probably CDRs. Basic flight deck crew should be ship's company with aircraft flight and maintenance crews embarking with their squadrons/flights. How integrated they become with ship's company depends on how long they embark for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 I was interested to read in one of the books on the USMC force in Iraq, when they using the assault ships as 'Baby Carriers' they actually merged the maintenance staff of both squadrons to get maximum availability, and it worked quite well. It will be interesting to see if we use a similar approach here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018  Yes, I've seen it. Sooo '70s...  I can't make hide nor hair of Queen Elizabeth's chain of command. It sounds as if there's the Captain, then a mash of commanders. with #1 only being mentioned in the third episode!----Regarding personnel aboard; will the aviation component be separate from ship's actual crew and if so, how many will that add to the complement? In the US Navy, this is the case where air wings are separate units that rotate on and off the ship according to their own duty cycles.I haven't had a look at the videos yet, but I'd expect many of the department heads to be CDRs. I believe COs on the Invincibles (in later years) were substantive Rear Admirals or Commodores wearing the lower rank of Captain. XO, MEO, maybe LSO, Aviation department head all probably CDRs. Basic flight deck crew should be ship's company with aircraft flight and maintenance crews embarking with their squadrons/flights. How integrated they become with ship's company depends on how long they embark for. Now that you mention it, a journo conflating rank with billet should be expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 First F-35B's to arrive in June.https://news.sky.com/story/undetectable-f-35-jets-from-us-to-arrive-in-uk-in-june-11374579 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Some attempt at information management. https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/why-f-35-trials-aboard-hms-queen-elizabeth-will-be-conducted-by-american-jets-flown-by-british-pilots/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Well to be absolutely fair, we did that through most of WW2 as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 F-35B ops video. At 3:07, the deck heating issue is illustrated during a dusk recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 (edited) The only negative im seeing (other than deck heating as you point out) is there seems to be a hell of a lot more downblast than say, a Harrier. Which is only to be expected from a heavier aircraft, but ive heard its caused some problems operating from FOB's on land. Hell of an impressive aeroplane though isnt it? Edited May 21, 2018 by Stuart Galbraith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 More thrust, through one nozzle makes for a harder blast. At first, I wondered why it approached so high, until I saw the spray it kicks up--that salt mist would be a maintenance nightmare. As it matures and starts attaining its rather lofty goals, yes its impressive indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 I was reading in the Haynes book on the Harrier, the Sea Harrier was specified with a windscreen wiper for just this reason, sea spray. Apparently during the Falklands campaign they were getting encrusted with saltwater, which probably kept the ground crews busy. I suppose this is going to be one advantage for the QE style rolling landing. They are going to be in that environment for a limited period, and hopefully deck melting will be kept to a limit too. Â Ive read the USMC have already experimented with Harrier style FOBing, but they had to introduce a landing plate because it was making a mess out of tarmac roads. I can see why now. Presumably STOL landings might be more popular now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Spallung of concrete has been a problem, too. At least the air intake position reduces the likelihood of fod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 (edited) Spallung of concrete has been a problem, too. At least the air intake position reduces the likelihood of fod. Yes I can well believe it. Has there been any discussion of whether the RAF will consider dispersed basing like they did with Harrier? I could see the utility of doing it somewhere like Estonia. Edited May 21, 2018 by Stuart Galbraith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Impressive how agile the nozzle is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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