Hms Queen Elizabeth

[DougRichards]

There was a really interesting Heinkel aircraft in 'IL2 1946' which was a rotary fan lift engine so the aircraft took off vertically, then the pilot pushed over and used it in flight. Kinda reminicent of the Convair Pogo, except in this case the fan was mid bodied. It was apparently based on a real Heinkel Concept from the 1940s, but like the Pogo they would have a hell of a problem transitioning back into vertical flight and landing it.

 

I guess the point is, there is a lot of companies that have done it, but only one that really made it work. F35 I think the jury still seems to be out, at least in American minds.

 

you mean this?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinkel_Lerche

[Stuart Galbraith]

Thats the puppy. Personally I think they would have done better to put more time into the Flying Saucer.

[shep854]

Thats the puppy. Personally I think they would have done better to put more time into the Flying Saucer.

And be forced to admit to the Nazi base on the Moon??

[Stuart Galbraith]

Osprey did a book on that, so it must be true.

https://ospreypublishing.com/nazi-moonbase

[Chris Werb]

Osprey did a book on that, so it must be true.

https://ospreypublishing.com/nazi-moonbase

 

ROTFLMAO!!!!!

[Stuart Galbraith]

Its got some really great illustrations in it, such as this, of the Nazi Antarctic base.

http://img11.deviantart.net/d46e/i/2016/132/f/c/nazi_moonbase___antarctic_base_by_wraithdt-da2ajpb.jpg

 

 

But my absolute favourite is from someone elses website.

[Josh]

If the British were secretly on the other side of the moon they'd just force you to drink their the most recent batch of zero G tea.

 

I got moved to Scotland and accidentally caught fire, in the literal sense (electric heater in Scotland that I backed into with second degree burns in '78; and I'm sure parachute nylon is great for our fliers but it dosn't make a good infant outfit...when it melts, it sticks to kids like Napalm...but I have liked tea ever since (despite the burning - lots of milk?).

 

In fact I almost want to open a thread with Chris and Stuart as to the proper preparation of Tea, as a filthy non commonwealth er who came up with my own method. That said, I'm sure Trump et al 'Tea' will be better than yours!

 

Cheers,

Josh

[Guest Charles]

If the British were secretly on the other side of the moon they'd just force you to drink their the most recent batch of zero G tea. :)I got moved to Scotland and accidentally caught fire, in the literal sense (electric heater in Scotland that I backed into with second degree burns in '78; and I'm sure parachute nylon is great for our fliers but it dosn't make a good infant outfit...when it melts, it sticks to kids like Napalm...but I have liked tea ever since (despite the burning - lots of milk?).In fact I almost want to open a thread with Chris and Stuart as to the proper preparation of Tea, as a filthy non commonwealth er who came up with my own method. That said, I'm sure Trump et al 'Tea' will be better than yours!Cheers,Josh

Just do not get our Indian, Chinese or Russian brethren arguing on who developed the art of drinking tea first .

 

Like beer, wine and whisky, there are many different types, each with a taste unique to itself.

 

Josh, ensure your water is hot and add milk (should you need to) afterwards.

 

Charles

Edited October 27, 2017 by Charles

[Stuart Galbraith]

The art of tea making is, get someone else to make it for you. Then you can bitch endlessly how they get it wrong and maintain the aura of invincibility, at least as far as tea making is concerned.

 

Well thats how I do it, but opinions vary of course.

[Mr King]

HMS Queen Elizabeth and USS George HW Bush with escorts

 

[Dark_Falcon]

A 'throwback' image from the Queen Elizabeth with updated and timely wording:

 

[Ken Estes]

Nah, this is the one:

 

[Stuart Galbraith]

MOD's bid to corner the 'Keep Calm and Carry on' Poster Market? Well I can hardly blame them. Nice poster actually, I wouldnt mind one of those myself.

 

Oh and the loose tits one, but I think that might be somewhat more difficult to find somewhere to hang.

Edited January 16, 2018 by Stuart Galbraith

[ferongr]

The tweet poster doesn't make sense. The word today is hyper-connected with multiple encrypted networks and the modern globalized and multicultural societies mean that unless you basically disconnect a country off the internet completely, such notions of security do not make sense. Hell, you don't even need spies, as there are plenty of unsecured IPTV cameras easily accessible from the Internet.

Edited January 15, 2018 by ferongr

[Colin]

Makes a lot of sense, while sooner or later the opponent will stitch together who was were and with what, the key is to ensure that information is not exposed while a response is possible. Even in the 80's we expected our 1 time sheets to be broken in 24hrs, so you only used them for information that would expire prior to that.

[shep854]

As a submariner once pointed out, a LOT of sensitive information is actually in open media, if someone is willing to dig and connect. Consider the Chinese 'Million Grains of Sand', where the PRC gov't simply interviews returning travelers, then correlates their seemingly trivial recollections.

Edited January 16, 2018 by shep854

[Stuart Galbraith]

I think in a crisis we might have to consider basing at Scapa Flow again Much easier to control information access from a remote area.

[Panzermann]

The tweet poster doesn't make sense. The word today is hyper-connected with multiple encrypted networks and the modern globalized and multicultural societies mean that unless you basically disconnect a country off the internet completely, such notions of security do not make sense. Hell, you don't even need spies, as there are plenty of unsecured IPTV cameras easily accessible from the Internet.

 

Of course. I mean that is what the intelligence agencies, secret services etc. of the world do as heir daily business.

 

 

The recycled poster is a reminder though, that the Queen's sailors do not blabber secrets into the public and in general think more before posting.

[Rick]

I think in a crisis we might have to consider basing at Scapa Flow again Much easier to control information access from a remote area.

Interesting. Scapa Flow is not a naval base anymore?

[Stuart Galbraith]

No, hasnt been for years.

[Rick]

No, hasnt been for years.

What is it now? Just an abandoned naval site?

[Ken Estes]

https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/our-organisation/where-we-are/naval-base

 

 

Apparently down to three. That's unfortunate

[Stuart Galbraith]

 

No, hasnt been for years.

What is it now? Just an abandoned naval site?

 

 

From what I see on documentaries of HMS Royal Oak, there are some derelict buildings, and a visitors centre, buts about it. It was never really much of a location other than a fueling point. For major maintenance they would probably have had to have used the Clyde.

 

I was amused to read in the foreword to 'Riddle of the Sands' (the 1908 edition IIRC) that Childers claimed that the RN had opened the base as a reaction to his novel. I doubt thats the case, but it clearly was a reaction to the rise of the German Fleet. When it went away, there wasnt really much need for it. I wonder if it was even used in the cold war.

 

 

https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/our-organisation/where-we-are/naval-base

 

 

Apparently down to three. That's unfortunate

 

You can see why im so alarmed at defence spending in the UK. We really are starting to hatchet things that when we lose them, we simply wont get back.

[Ken Estes]

That was my feeling when I traveled to Rosyth to see the two UK carriers under construction. While the ships were impressive, I found it very moving to be at one of the most important RN dockyards and bases of the two world wars. I imagined Beatty's BC Squadron heading out under the Firth of Forth Bridge, belching coal smoke and so on. Alas all is now civilianized under Babcocks.

[shep854]

I thought RN shore establishments, including bases, were 'HMS', like ships.