Stuart Galbraith Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Strongly reminds me of a painting Mr Turner once did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BansheeOne Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Your first association is of a painting depicting a once-proud warship being towed to the breakers by a vessel of newer technology? 🧐 Try this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Ah, but 'tis deceptive. Because on the way to the breakers yard, she would almost certainly have had the mast took down. Turner painted them put back in, partly to honor her glorious victory at Trafalgar, partly because it made her look a ghost ship she would soon become. Its really about the old Royal Navy of sail making way for the glorious future of mechanization. Or something. Yeah, thats ok, but the ghastly Albacore spoils the view. Why not a sporty Corsair, or a sleek Spitfire? Even a humble stringbag had a 'dont mess with me pal' look.😔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said: Ah, but 'tis deceptive. Because on the way to the breakers yard, she would almost certainly have had the mast took down. Turner painted them put back in, partly to honor her glorious victory at Trafalgar, partly because it made her look a ghost ship she would soon become. Its really about the old Royal Navy of sail making way for the glorious future of mechanization. Or something. Yeah, thats ok, but the ghastly Albacore spoils the view. Why not a sporty Corsair, or a sleek Spitfire? Even a humble stringbag had a 'dont mess with me pal' look.😔 What if it had been a Blackburn Blackburn... Edited July 2, 2021 by shep854 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Or a lovely Sea Fury. Its not that I cant get enthused about the Fleet Air Arm in WW2, they did some great work. It would be easier to get enthusiastic if most of their aircraft were not so obviously obsolete and come to that, fugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 11 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said: Or a lovely Sea Fury. Its not that I cant get enthused about the Fleet Air Arm in WW2, they did some great work. It would be easier to get enthusiastic if most of their aircraft were not so obviously obsolete and come to that, fugly. Functional, Stuart...functional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougRichards Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 20 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said: Or a lovely Sea Fury. Its not that I cant get enthused about the Fleet Air Arm in WW2, they did some great work. It would be easier to get enthusiastic if most of their aircraft were not so obviously obsolete and come to that, fugly. And the seaborne aircraft that they faced in the European theatre, flown off the RN Aquila and the Graf Zeppelin in combat, were so much better.... Anyway, the Albacore could and did fly with bicycles strapped to their struts. An equivalent feat by a naval aircraft that was not a COD, albeit not off a carrier, was not until RNZAF pilots used the vacant space in the empty avionics hump of their A-4 Skyhawks to carry a full set of golf clubs and other luggage when being sent to distant (well, sort of, that was New Zealand) postings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucklucky Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/yes-royal-navy-frigate-played-pranks-soviet-ships-80s-189208 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam_S Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 On 7/3/2021 at 7:05 PM, DougRichards said: And the seaborne aircraft that they faced in the European theatre, flown off the RN Aquila and the Graf Zeppelin in combat, were so much better.... Anyway, the Albacore could and did fly with bicycles strapped to their struts. An equivalent feat by a naval aircraft that was not a COD, albeit not off a carrier, was not until RNZAF pilots used the vacant space in the empty avionics hump of their A-4 Skyhawks to carry a full set of golf clubs and other luggage when being sent to distant (well, sort of, that was New Zealand) postings. They managed to attach beer barrels to a Spitfire for D-Day. https://www.warhistoryonline.com/world-war-ii/the-beer-barrel-bombers-keg-carrying-spitfires-brought.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KV7 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 On 7/2/2021 at 4:38 PM, Stuart Galbraith said: Strongly reminds me of a painting Mr Turner once did. You might like this then: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 Thanks for that KV7. HMS Queen Elizabeth reaches Suez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrustMe Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 I remember reading that when British aircraft carriers we travelling threw the Suez canal to the gulf all non essential personnel were armed and stood on deck ready to shoot any terrorists that would challenge their passage. I wonder if they still do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 Probably. I wouldnt be surprised if they have an armed Helicopter ready to respond also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 In related news, this is a good decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardaukar Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 3 hours ago, TrustMe said: I remember reading that when British aircraft carriers we travelling threw the Suez canal to the gulf all non essential personnel were armed and stood on deck ready to shoot any terrorists that would challenge their passage. I wonder if they still do it. They did in this docuseries about HMS Duncan in 2018: https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-latest-activity/events/tv-film-radio/181126-warship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 I've seen some videos showing the Osprey going operational for COD duties. Maybe I just missed it, but how does the RN handle priority cargo/personnel transport to the battle group? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 It seems to be mainly Merlins, but they have used Chinook in the role. It may be the reason why the new Chinooks they are buying have been fitted for In flight refuelling. Though as someone has pointed out, good luck with using that now we are withdrawing Hercules.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrustMe Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 The A400M Atlas has been trialed re fueling helicopters. I don't know if it has entered service yet. The new Chinook buy is rumored to be the MH47G version, designed for special ops. The US has never sold this variant to any other country yet, but you never know given the special relationship between the two countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 Thanks TM, id not heard that. I wonder how quick it is to convert back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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shep854 Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 Nothing gets past those Canberras! 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rick Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Absolutely disgusting! https://www.wsj.com/articles/if-war-comes-will-the-u-s-navy-be-prepared-11626041901 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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