TOW-2 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) The 5th image there, the model kit, is not mine. I don't think a kit was ever issued at any rate; that's likely a home-grown kitbash someone did there. I believe among the reasons they passed on this bird was that it couldn't carry the AIM-54 (I don't know if it was structural, electronic, or both), and also the issue of trading in a known quantity for something more revolutionary. Anyway, enjoy the photographs all. Edited November 23, 2014 by TOW-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corinthian Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 What did they do to the beloved Phantom?!? It looks fugly, a daemon spawn of an unholy intercourse of an F-4 and MiG-23. Didn't they get the memo that F-4s supposed to shootdown MiGs and not have sex with it? Good find, wasn't aware of this one. Thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Ah, the Phantomcat. It could never have worked, as Loggins had not yet split from Messina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Ah, the Phantomcat. It could never have worked, as Loggins had not yet split from Messina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr King Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 (edited) Edited November 24, 2014 by Mr King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOW-2 Posted November 24, 2014 Author Share Posted November 24, 2014 Oh yeah there's NO chance for friendly fire in the event of a close-range fight here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 F-4s were confused with MiG-21s over N. Vietnam. When Thuds started shooting Sidewinders, their Phantom escorts quickly exited the area. In Thud Ridge, Jack Broughton mentioned such an instance. A-4s were also mis-identified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr King Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 F-4s were confused with MiG-21s over N. Vietnam. When Thuds started shooting Sidewinders, their Phantom escorts quickly exited the area. In Thud Ridge, Jack Broughton mentioned such an instance. A-4s were also mis-identified. It is amazing what stress will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kennedy Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 So why did swing wings fall from favor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Pellagio Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Complicated, lots of weight and priorities for ACM changed in the 80's away from raw performance to re-incorporate WVR ACM. What exact timeframe was this F4-VG proposed?Was it an F111 competitor/F111B replacement program contemporary to tomcat or something post-1970? Seems a strange program once you start getting to ~1975 and F15, F14 and F16A are all on the table for the US and Tier 1 NATO nations, and I can't imagine the export market projections would ever have been big enough to justify development, even with countries like Iran, Israel or others that may have been seen as potential big buyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaarin7 Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 It was proposed as a competitor to the Grumman F-14 IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corinthian Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 F-4s were confused with MiG-21s over N. Vietnam. When Thuds started shooting Sidewinders, their Phantom escorts quickly exited the area. In Thud Ridge, Jack Broughton mentioned such an instance. A-4s were also mis-identified. Confusing F-4 with MiG-21?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojan Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Both are delta winged of same general shape and in hurry (when there is no time for finer details such as size), on uncertain ranges such miss-ID is more then possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnm Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) You're right but the Rhino is so fooking ugly that it's like confusing Michelle Pfeiffer with Yasser Arafat. Each has (had) two arms, two legs and neither shaves (shaved) their faces. And mixing them up in hurry disregarding finer details like size might end in tragedy if you picked the wrong one Edited March 7, 2015 by mnm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Extreme situations can seriously impair judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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