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Big China military parade planned. Usually for the establishment of communist China once every 10 years. Last one was 2009. But this time it is not for that but for the 70th anniversary of WW2.

 

One reason for holding the parade was "to frighten Japan and declare to the world China's determination to maintain the post-war world order", said the article, written by Chinese financial and global affairs commentator Hu Zhanhao.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/mobile/latestnews/china-to-hold-military/1618892.html

 

Those quotations in Japanese about the "make Japan fear and protecting the post-war world order" bit..

 

「日本を震え上がらせ、世界に向けて中国が戦後の世界秩序を守る断固たる決意を示す」

http://www.jiji.com/jc/c?g=pol&k=2015012700580

 

Some more for reading.

 

http://thediplomat.com/2015/01/chinas-military-parade-a-warning-to-japan-and-the-us/

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In the taiwanese military, morale might have fallen low over a period of time because of excessive harshness indicated by the 2013 death of Hung Chung which caused a lot of protest from the public.

All within the last 5 years in Singapore: I counted slightly more than 10 deaths of military servicemen in one particularly bad year for SAF, most of them conscripts. One or two were suicides but most were accidental including heatstroke.

 

And there was one OCS cadet (or commando?) conscript died after being dunked in water as part of POW training.

 

In Singapore, today's generation are against military service because the government has let in a few million foreign immigrants and and workers increasing our population from 3.5mil to 5.5mil within about 15 years. Today two of out of every five people in Singapore are foreigners.

 

Singaporeans feel angry that they have to lose two to three years to serve as full-time conscripts, and then one month every year to go back for reservist training. This reservist commitment especially make male Singaporeans less preferred by employers compared to foreigners. Simple maths show that on top of 15 working days' annual leave, a Singapore male employee also spends another 15 (or more) working days in uniform. This makes him unavailable to the employer for more than a month each year. Especially small companies finds this greatly affects productivity and prefers to hire foreigners instead. Plus they are cheaper.

 

Our use of English as the business language has made Singapore suitable for people from all over the world. At least places like China, HK, Korea and Japan offers some natural linguistic barriers to wholesale employment of foreigners. Not Singapore. And the traitorous government has an open policy to welcome foreigners with little to no quota. Not just as workers, but as immigrants, citing our low birth rate. But Singapore is so expensive most Singaporeans can't afford to have kids.

 

Singaporeans serving NS feel that they are acting as security guards while jobs are given freely to foreigners. Many Singaporeans are laid off by age 40 and many former white collars or middle managers of that age end up driving taxis - if they are lucky.

 

The main reason for ROC tuning down conscription was also an economic one, IIRC. Something about not enough manpower entering the workforce due to two years' conscription.

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In the taiwanese military, morale might have fallen low over a period of time because of excessive harshness indicated by the 2013 death of Hung Chung which caused a lot of protest from the public.

 

All within the last 5 years in Singapore: I counted slightly more than 10 deaths of military servicemen in one particularly bad year for SAF, most of them conscripts. One or two were suicides but most were accidental including heatstroke.

 

And there was one OCS cadet (or commando?) conscript died after being dunked in water as part of POW training.

 

In Singapore, today's generation are against military service because the government has let in a few million foreign immigrants and and workers increasing our population from 3.5mil to 5.5mil within about 15 years. Today two of out of every five people in Singapore are foreigners.

 

Singaporeans feel angry that they have to lose two to three years to serve as full-time conscripts, and then one month every year to go back for reservist training. This reservist commitment especially make male Singaporeans less preferred by employers compared to foreigners. Simple maths show that on top of 15 working days' annual leave, a Singapore male employee also spends another 15 (or more) working days in uniform. This makes him unavailable to the employer for more than a month each year. Especially small companies finds this greatly affects productivity and prefers to hire foreigners instead. Plus they are cheaper.

 

Our use of English as the business language has made Singapore suitable for people from all over the world. At least places like China, HK, Korea and Japan offers some natural linguistic barriers to wholesale employment of foreigners. Not Singapore. And the traitorous government has an open policy to welcome foreigners with little to no quota. Not just as workers, but as immigrants, citing our low birth rate. But Singapore is so expensive most Singaporeans can't afford to have kids.

Singaporeans serving NS feel that they are acting as security guards while jobs are given freely to foreigners. Many Singaporeans are laid off by age 40 and many former white collars or middle managers of that age end up driving taxis - if they are lucky.

 

The main reason for ROC tuning down conscription was also an economic one, IIRC. Something about not enough manpower entering the workforce due to two years' conscription.

Very interesting, especially the language barrier point.

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Big China military parade planned. Usually for the establishment of communist China once every 10 years. Last one was 2009. But this time it is not for that but for the 70th anniversary of WW2.

 

One reason for holding the parade was "to frighten Japan and declare to the world China's determination to maintain the post-war world order", said the article, written by Chinese financial and global affairs commentator Hu Zhanhao.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/mobile/latestnews/china-to-hold-military/1618892.html

 

Those quotations in Japanese about the "make Japan fear and protecting the post-war world order" bit..

 

「日本を震え上がらせ、世界に向けて中国が戦後の世界秩序を守る断固たる決意を示す」

http://www.jiji.com/jc/c?g=pol&k=2015012700580

 

Some more for reading.

 

http://thediplomat.com/2015/01/chinas-military-parade-a-warning-to-japan-and-the-us/

 

What does the Japanese report say?

 

Japan is militarily the second most powerful nation in East Asia - not even counting US support. There is no way in hell that they will be intimidated by China parade or no parade. In a contained conflict, they can more than hold their own, and very likely trump China. China's vast military is merely large enough to ensure home border security.

 

The Japanese are in a way even more powerful than India because unlike India, they face no imminent internal or external security threat (being protected by the sea). They do not have the equivalent of a Pakistan (China ally) to keep their flank in check in the event of a conflict away from the home islands. Russia may play that role in the northern islands but the Russians are probably more than happy to see China weakened in a conflict than to act in tandem against Japan (not to mention US).

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It's too late to sit down and work on a translation tonight. I'll get it done tomorrow. But nothing much different than what can be found in English reports.

 

With all the stuff I see about China up to this point, I see no sign of a peaceful China 10-15 years from now. The CPC are showing no signs of improving freedom of speech since the 1990s. As long as speech is constrained, they are a danger. It's not a good constant to have. They made good relations with Japan in the 1980s and put the island claim to rest. That enabled them to get their economy out of literally the lowest standards. That shows that all the history baggage about WW2 is really no longer a true hinderance to good relations. The true hinderance is the CPC's unwillingness to change their tight grip and keep the population stuck on CPC's narrative propaganda. To keep them uneducated from an unbiased perspective. With such a strong bias, their opinions aren't valid. That's why freedom of speech is needed. However, non-valid opinions can still have action taking on them. Japan is way ahead of China on freedom of speech. If China wants more historical consensus from Japan, China needs to make the big step up in freedom of speech. The only thing that will keep China as it is under CPC rule down are economic links. The strength of those economic links will become relatively weaker in the future. It takes time to adjust a culture to freedom of speech. China isn't making any moves in that regard. That's why 10 years from now matters because China can't suddenly obtain a culture capable of freedom speech like a switch.

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The Japanese report in English. I added the two links within the article.

 

Putting a check on Japan with military parade=Political aim statements by the party bulletin for carrying out the victory's 70th year, China

 

[beijing current events] Communist Party of China's official bulletin and the People's Daily confirmed via internet that a large scale military parade and military review will be held on September 3rd for welcoming the 70th anniversary of the victory against fascism and the resistance war against Japan. Furthermore, by displaying the military capability of China, having the event will "frighten Japan and declare to the world China's determination to maintain the post-war world order"etc, and the putting a check on Japan will be one of its aims.

 

It will be the first military parade and military review since President Xi Jinping took office. Up until now, it has been held once every 10 years on the National Day of the People's Republic of China (National Foundation Day). Xi Jinping is breaking away from convention and putting in political meaning and goals into the exhibiting of the military parade on Victory over Japan Day.

 

On the night of the 26th, the People's Daily transmitted a message to the free mobile communication application called "WeChat" for smartphones explaining this meaning. It criticized that In Japan "there are indications that the path of militarization is once again being taken, and is plotting both overturning the post-war international order and changing its position as a defeated country" and stressed that "China will demonstrate to Japan its (military) capabilities and absolutely will not tolerate Japan's challenge to China's post-war order".

 

Another goal stated in the message is "to be able to show the world the true power of the military's equipment by means of the military review". From the perspective that "inspiring the public is necessary" it pointed out that it aims to "increase the unity and pride of the people" etc, to expand national prestige.

 

Public security minister Fu Zhenghua (Beijing Municipal Public Security Bureau Chief) made clear that for the 70th year after the war, the military review will held at Beijing on the 22nd. It is believed that for the first time, top leaders from foreign countries such as President Putin, will attend the event. (2015/January/27th 3:08PM)

 

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Liu Xiaobo in 2006 talking about freedom to write.

 

 

I think he is right. It makes the difference between a world with the US Asia pivot policy and Japan bolstering its military despite massive debt and a world where China actively participates together with other countries against radicals, together in space exploration, etc. China isn't some little dinky place like North Korea that is no sweat and can largely be ignored. China is like a huge chain iron ball to progressive movement of all of us on Earth.

 

So how to implement freedom of expression of China would have to be in small steps. An immediate expansion of freedom of speech can result in some violence, causing a sudden contraction and termination of the expansion of freedom of expression. Has to be slow but known that to some extent that it is a goal. It has to be a goal from the leadership.

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"I think allies, partners, and friends in the region will look to the Japanese more and more as a stabilizing function", Admiral Thomas told Reuters. "In the South China Sea, frankly, the Chinese fishing fleet, the Chinese coastguard and the [navy] overmatch their neighbors", he added. "I think that JSDF operations in the South China Sea makes sense in the future".

http://thediplomat.com/2015/01/us-admiral-japanese-operations-in-south-china-sea-make-sense-in-the-future/

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Big China military parade planned. Usually for the establishment of communist China once every 10 years. Last one was 2009. But this time it is not for that but for the 70th anniversary of WW2.

 

One reason for holding the parade was "to frighten Japan and declare to the world China's determination to maintain the post-war world order", said the article, written by Chinese financial and global affairs commentator Hu Zhanhao.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/mobile/latestnews/china-to-hold-military/1618892.html

 

Those quotations in Japanese about the "make Japan fear and protecting the post-war world order" bit..

 

「日本を震え上がらせ、世界に向けて中国が戦後の世界秩序を守る断固たる決意を示す」

http://www.jiji.com/jc/c?g=pol&k=2015012700580

 

Some more for reading.

 

http://thediplomat.com/2015/01/chinas-military-parade-a-warning-to-japan-and-the-us/

What does the Japanese report say?

 

Japan is militarily the second most powerful nation in East Asia - not even counting US support. There is no way in hell that they will be intimidated by China parade or no parade. In a contained conflict, they can more than hold their own, and very likely trump China. China's vast military is merely large enough to ensure home border security.

 

The Japanese are in a way even more powerful than India because unlike India, they face no imminent internal or external security threat (being protected by the sea). They do not have the equivalent of a Pakistan (China ally) to keep their flank in check in the event of a conflict away from the home islands. Russia may play that role in the northern islands but the Russians are probably more than happy to see China weakened in a conflict than to act in tandem against Japan (not to mention US).

That's why I cant ever understand why all the US studies about the mlitary balance in east Asia ignore the fact that we have several allies with bad-ass militaries in the region. Hell, do a balance-of-forces of China vs Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore (and maybe Vietnam and India) and you can see why this probably all looks very different from a Chinese perspective.

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It's China's foreign policy that is causing the pivot to Asia. PRC is not entitled to the whole of the South China Sea and China has no good reason for it's claim on Senkaku. The US isn't pulling strings to make the pivot happen. Vietnam, the Philippines, Japan, and to a lesser extent Australia are weary of PRC's intentions.Those intentions are long term. So a long term response is appropriate. If the foreign policies were not as they are, there wouldn't be an Asia pivot and China would be developing its military free from criticism. Combine that to China's secretive nature on many things and future economic potential, a pivot is in order.

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Don't forget Malaysia, Brunei, S. Korea & even Indonesia. China's claims overlap all of their EEZs. In some cases, China claims that some rocks which are only uncovered at high tide, or even a permanently submerged reef which China has piled some rocks onto, is a Chinese island, & as such gives China the right to waters up to within sight of another country's coast.

 

This is (1) contrary to international law & (2) contradicts China's own policy towards rocks, shoals, & reefs claimed by others, such as Okinotorishima, an atoll SE of Japan & claimed by it. China's official position is that it does not fulfil the conditions for having its own EEZ - but claims that reefs & shoals that are even more submerged, but which are claimed by China, do have EEZs.

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That's why I cant ever understand why all the US studies about the mlitary balance in east Asia ignore the fact that we have several allies with bad-ass militaries in the region. Hell, do a balance-of-forces of China vs Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore (and maybe Vietnam and India) and you can see why this probably all looks very different from a Chinese perspective.

 

I sincerely doubt Singapore will play any meaningful part in a military conflict against China. We may take some token action for show, but mostly will take on a mediating role. WRT China, Singapore will always be fence-sitting at best, and will always play both sides to our advantage.

 

Though post-Subic Bay, we were the first ones to offer the US bases, we want to be close to the US strategically, to the point they will sell us any weapon almost. But close to China at the same time but not so close the US becomes suspicious.

 

As a staunch opponent of Islamic extremism (or communism in the old days) in the region alongside US - Yes.

 

Against China? Hmm... hard to say.

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Chinese users of social media took to Twitter-like platform Sina Weibo to express outrage at Fernandez’s comments. One Weibo user wrote: “It’s Japanese and Koreans who are unable to differentiate between L and R, not the Chinese.” Another said: “If you want to be funny, do it in an intelligent way.”

:lol:

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Chinese SCAR.

 

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/05/21/chinese-cslr14-7-62x51mm-automatic-rifle/

http://chinadefense.blogspot.sg/2014/05/news-of-day-chinesetype-81-evolved.html

 

 

They call it a Type81 improved. Probably uses the same mechanism as it is apparently very reliable, but curiously it is in 7.62 NATO calibre. So you know it is targeted at the US market.

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This diplomat article covers the Senkaku island dispute between Japan and Taiwan quite well. It is about a landmark agreement in 2013.

 

http://thediplomat.com/2013/04/japan-and-taiwans-senkakus-play/

 

Modifications to fishing zones, time slots, etc were just agreed on by the two counties.

 

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2015/03/07/national/politics-diplomacy/japan-taiwan-agree-to-modify-landmark-fishing-pact-off-senkakus/#.VPvBiHgay0c

 

In short, Japan and Taiwan are playing nice around the Senkaku islands.

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Chinese SCAR.

 

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/05/21/chinese-cslr14-7-62x51mm-automatic-rifle/

http://chinadefense.blogspot.sg/2014/05/news-of-day-chinesetype-81-evolved.html

 

 

They call it a Type81 improved. Probably uses the same mechanism as it is apparently very reliable, but curiously it is in 7.62 NATO calibre. So you know it is targeted at the US market.

Imports of Chinese rifle to US are forbidden, hence no US market to be had.
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