3 Kidnapped Israeli Teenagers Found Executed. Prelude To Big Operation

[Rod]

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4536378,00.html

 

The 3 Israeli teenagers whose kidnapping led to a frantic 2 week of security searches were finally found in a shallow pit executed. Israel seems to have gathered intelligence pointing a finger at Hamas. Not sure if the cell was operating independently or under orders of Hamas but it seems that the revenge could bring a big operation in Gaza. If this means a ground invasion remains to be seen.

 

There are many differences that makes it easier for Israel to move in into Gaza:

- Hamas has joined the regular Palestinian Authority government without abandoning its anti-Israel platform, so there is no need to pretend of a peace process negotiation

-Hezbollah is very busy in Syria and just got more involved in Iraq and Lebanon proper

-ISIS is moving in Iraq and Syria strongly thus the world's attention is more focused on ISIS taking over Baghdad.

-Egypt is fighting its own insurgency in Sinai and parts of Egypt. Strategically Egypt would welcome Israel routing Hamas from Gaza.

-In Europe we have the Ukraine situation keeping European diplomats busy.

-Biggest of all is the World Cup taking attention of the rest of the world.

 

 

[Sami Jumppanen]

Is this a case of "how stupid can you be?" Or "i didn't see that coming!"

 

It seems that Hamas picked the worst situation to pull that off.

[Corinthian]

What was the purpose of kidnapping and execution? Just simple "They are Jews, let us kill them" mentality? That's so stupid.

[Nobu]

One possibility is to scupper the Fatah-Hamas rapprochement, which appears to be likely at this stage.

[Colin]

the pals were never good at picking winners

[Mr King]

the pals were never good at picking winners

 

Maybe because they are utterly batshit insane

[Simon Tan]

Hamas is actually run by Shin Bet to ensure there will never be a Palestine. Genius.

[Josh]

What was the purpose of kidnapping and execution? Just simple "They are Jews, let us kill them" mentality? That's so stupid.

 

There are elements inside Gaza (and probably the West Bank) that just assume have a throw down with Israel, regardless of the rather negative outcome it would have on either territory. If logic drove activity of the Palestinian groups, they'd give up their hopeless effort at 'fighting' Israel. Logic isn't necessarily employed, or if it is, its employed really selectively/selfishly: there are a small number of people and groups that benefit from constant combat, and having Israel mow some Pals down every few years is one of the ways they maintain themselves.

Edited July 1, 2014 by Josh

[Colin]

Hamas is actually run by Shin Bet to ensure there will never be a Palestine. Genius.

You mean like the leader of the Malaysian CT's? that was a master stroke, although I think it was the French who first turned him.

[RETAC21]

It seems it all comes down to a single clan:

 

"But while Israel continues to accuse the Hamas movement and its leadership of being responsible for the abduction, Palestinian security forces attribute the abduction to the Qawasmeh clan of Hebron specifically. Though the clan is known for identifying with Hamas, it also has a well-earned reputation as troublemakers. Not only does it tend to ignore the movement’s leaders. It even acts counter to the policies being advocated by the movement.

That is why officials in the Palestinian Authority (PA) were shocked by the timing of the three boys’ abduction, just two weeks after the establishment of a Palestinian unity government. After all, the very creation of this new coalition came with the assumption that the Hamas leadership had come to terms with reality and moderated their positions.

Enter the Qawasmeh clan. The total number of people belonging to the clan is estimated at about 10,000, making it one of the three largest clans in the Mount Hebron region. At least 15 members of the family were killed during the second intifada, nine of them while committing suicide attacks against Israel. All of the terrorists lived in the Abu Qatila neighborhood, within a radius of less than 1 kilometer (0.6 mile) from one another. Whenever the head of the terrorist organization within the clan was assassinated or arrested by Israel, one of his brothers or cousins was selected to replace him.

For instance, when the head of the group, Abdullah Qawasmeh, was assassinated during the second intifada, he was succeeded by his cousin Basel Qawasmeh. When Basel was assassinated by Israel, the person selected to succeed him was Imad Qawasmeh, who was apprehended by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) in October 2003.

Marwan Qawasmeh, the man behind the abduction, emerged as a dominant figure in the clan after Israel arrested Imad Qawasmeh and sentenced him to life in prison.

Each time Hamas had reached an understanding with Israel about a cease-fire or tahadiyeh (period of calm), at least one member of the family has been responsible for planning or initiating a suicide attack, and any understandings with Israel, achieved after considerable effort, were suddenly laid waste. If there is a single family throughout the PA territories whose actions can be blamed for Israel’s assassination of the political leadership of Hamas, it is the Qawasmeh family of Hebron.

On Aug. 19, 2003, after a tahadiyeh was reached between Israel and all of the Palestinian factions, with the support of Hamas leader Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, two suicide bombers blew themselves up on the No. 2 bus in Jerusalem. Some 23 Israelis were killed in the attack, including seven children. All of the passengers on the bus were on their way back from prayers at the Western Wall to mark the end of the Sabbath. Most of them were yeshiva students. The attack put an abrupt end to the tahadiyeh just 52 days after it was announced. The bombing was intended to avenge Israel’s assassination of Abdullah Qawasmeh three days before the tahadiyeh came into force. The Qawasmeh family planned and implemented the attack during a cease-fire, which was supposed to have ended the second intifada, a cease-fire that had the support of Yasser Arafat, then-PA chairman, his Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas and, of course, Yassin, the leader of Hamas.

Two days later, Israel assassinated one of the most prominent leaders of the political wing of Hamas in Gaza, Ismail Abu Shanab.

Abu Shanab was considered one of the more moderate members of the movement at the time. In a conversation he had with Hasan Abu Zayad, an Arabic-language reporter for the Israeli Public Radio (Kol Israel), Abu Shanab said that the attack in Jerusalem was a serious error by people who disobey orders, that the matter should be investigated and that those responsible should be punished. Instead, what happened was that Abu Shanab was assassinated by Israel, the intifada heated up again, and as part of the armed conflict, Israel assassinated the two senior leaders of Hamas, Yassin and his heir, Abd al-Aziz Rantisi.

Nor did the Qawasmeh family comply with the understandings reached between Israel and Hamas after the assassination of the movement’s senior leaders. Following these assassinations, Israel contacted the head of the movement’s political bureau, Khaled Meshaal, through the Egypt’s then-Minister of Intelligence Omar Suleiman, saying that if Hamas stopped its attacks, Israel would reciprocate by putting a stop to its assassination campaign. It was because of these understandings that Hamas did not avenge the assassination of its leaders. Half a year later (Aug. 31, 2004), however, two terrorists, Nassim Subhi Jabari and Ahmed Qawasmeh, left Hebron to launch a double suicide attack on two buses in Beersheba, killing 16 Israelis.

So once again, Suleiman was forced to call then-Prime Minister Ariel Sharon with a message from Meshaal that what had happened was a mishap. The armed gang from Hebron had been acting counter to Hamas’ new policy.

The same is true now. Marwan Qawasmeh and Amar Abu Aisha have brought Hamas to a place where its leadership never intended to go. By kidnapping the three Israelis, the Qawasmeh family decided to take the leaders there anyway. In each of the previous events, Hamas’ political leaders were forced to align themselves with the movement’s military wing. Not one of them dared to say anything. They wouldn’t dare condemn a kidnapping ostensibly intended to release Palestinian prisoners held by Israel, or to denounce some terrorist attack, ostensibly launched in retaliation to the assassination by Israel of some Hamas activist or other.

And now for the dispute between Israel and Abbas. We have already noted that Israel holds Hamas responsible for the abduction, while the PA considers the actions of the Qawasmeh family a “gray area,” which cannot be used as an indicator for what is happening within Hamas. That is why Abbas is not taking apart yet the unity government he formed just two weeks before the abduction, a government that was supposed to represent a fresh start in the relationship between Fatah and Hamas.

That is also why Meshaal said in an interview with Al Jazeera, “We cannot deny nor can we confirm that Hamas committed the kidnapping.” Meshaal also added that he has no idea where the abducted teens are.

At this point, it is quite possible to believe Meshaal when he says that he knew nothing about the kidnapping and that he has no idea what happened to the teens. But Meshaal and the leaders of Hamas have a problem. As long as they don’t denounce the Qawasmeh family, and as long as they let the family take them down a dead end time after time, the leaders of the movement will be forced to pay the price.

Abu Shanab, Yassin and Rantisi paid with their lives for what the Qawasmeh family did. Hamas is all tangled up in the same trap, with and Israeli sword hovering over them again. This time, however, when the sword lands, Hamas will not be able to lay all of the blame on the rebellious Qawasmeh clan from Hebron. "

[Mr King]

Palestinian children holding up three fingers to celebrate the kidnapping of the Israeli teens

 

 

[Mr King]

Palestinian MP on CNN "no proof Palestinians behind the deaths, and the Israelis are to blame for their deaths"

 

 

Monsters represented by monsters

 

 

http://youtu.be/TgO0DekaMac

[DADI]

 

It seems it all comes down to a single clan:

 

 

A single clan....

 

So That's what it was..

The EVIL Qawasmehs drag Hamas and the PA to yet another trap.

[Sardaukar]

Could have been just "snatched opportunity" without that much higher planning. Apart from HAMAS etc. encouraging this sort of thing for years, especially after Shalit affair.

 

I must say that hitchhiking around Hebron area (or whatever these teens thought they were doing) especially during night is very good way to become Darwin Award winner. Unfortunately that is what happened to these teenagers.

[Jeff]

 

 

It seems it all comes down to a single clan:

 

 

A single clan....

 

So That's what it was..

The EVIL Qawasmehs drag Hamas and the PA to yet another trap.

 

Indeed, kind of like arguing the difference between mostly batshit insane and completely batshit insane. The kids in Mr King's pictures don't seem to have been dragged into the trap, they look pretty happy about it.

[urbanoid]

Of course they are happy about it, that's what they were taught, whether in PA or Hamastan, the difference is that the officials from the former try to present themselves as 'moderates'. At least in English, what they say in Arabic is a different matter.

[Rickard N]

Wasn't there some palestinian kid executed by a mob as revenge?

[Mistral]

Wasn't there some palestinian kid executed by a mob as revenge?

 

Burned alive according to the BBC.

[Gregory]

Wasn't there some palestinian kid executed by a mob as revenge?

Not mob - tossed into a car by 3 people and driven off.

[firefly1]

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The BBC also noted that over 160 palestinian "children" have been killed in the last 5 years.

 

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[mnm]

Are you Gringos profoundly troubled?

 

I'll never understand this but everyone hates the Great Satan and everyone wants to migrate to there, go figure. Where's Rachel Corrie when you need her?

[DADI]

The young masked "US boy" threw homemade bombs at the police and resisted arrest.

 

One minute - a brave warrior for the Palestinian cause. The next - an innocent child from Florida.

 

Couldn't his "shocked" Mom anticipate her son's active participation in violent riots might result with injury?

 

Did she care then?

Edited July 6, 2014 by DADI

[Skorzeny]

I agree that "if you play with fire you might get burned", and that if you participate in violent protests you risk getting injured.

 

Still, from the video this looks highly unprofessional and actually criminal. There is no way he is at this point resisting in any meaningful manner warranting being stomped on. Are you actually defending them?

I would not cry if some G8 protestor in Norway gets injured, but I would be outraged if they got beaten up in cuffs.

 

 

 

The young masked "US boy" threw homemade bombs at the police and resisted arrest.

 

One minute - a brave warrior for the Palestinian cause. The next - an innocent child from Florida.

 

Couldn't his "shocked" Mom anticipate her son's active participation in violent riots might result with injury?

 

Did she care then?

 

[Marek Tucan]

Seems the Israeli authorities arrested 6 persons suspect from the revenge murder.

[DADI]

 

I agree that "if you play with fire you might get burned", and that if you participate in violent protests you risk getting injured.

 

Still, from the video this looks highly unprofessional and actually criminal. There is no way he is at this point resisting in any meaningful manner warranting being stomped on. Are you actually defending them?

I would not cry if some G8 protestor in Norway gets injured, but I would be outraged if they got beaten up in cuffs.

 

 

 

Things like that get investigated here..

The short version of the video gives a feeling it was done in some back ally by two cops acting alone.. A few seconds later on that same video (longer version), it becomes clear that a larger group of undercover police are present, each team of 2-3 policemen arrest a masked person.

Usually - The undercover policemen corner a leader/ultra violent/individuals that use more than stones - and make the arrest with the assistance of police in uniform joining them.

 

I don't like pictures of beat-up people, teens or anyone else.

From the video, it is impossible to estimate the terms and circumstances that led to that arrest - That's why it was chosen from numerous arrests made during the last 2-3 weeks. Yesterday - a suspect in cooperationg with the abduction and murder of the 3 Israeli teens invited the media to his home, and stated he heard he was wanted for investigation, and that he was home.

 

A few more events happening that you might not be aware of:

For the first time - Arab Israelis, among them teens, announce their support to Israel, in their name and voice.

For the first time - Palestinians come to the murdered Israeli teen's homes and offer their condolences.

Arab PA and Israeli officials openly condemn the riots.

Syrian wounded flee to Israel for medical treatment..

PA police and security forces openly and willingly cooperate with Israeli security forces.

 

This does not meen the peace is about to break - It meens that people are starting to realize the adavantages of "Israeli occupation" in comparison to any other relevant option.

Edited July 6, 2014 by DADI