Kiev Is Burning

[Roman Alymov 0]

Is it a good thing or just a generic name for PMC? Voenspets no bueno?

No emotional load in this word at all - certainly not negative. And "Voenspets" is not proper word for this guys who were recruited as guards for oil installations, not some kind of highly trained advisors.

[bd1 0]

no ill image - that´s remarkable , considering that the leadership of vagner company is russian neonazis and the same russia (russians) keeps yapping about ukrainian neonazis. now that´s moral flexiblility...

[Simon Tan 0]

Slav neonazis is the funniest thing.

[bd1 0]

vostok eto delo tonkoye

[glenn239 0]

Western publication offers Ukraine advice on combating Russian domination; wait 25 years and see if Russia has become weaker,

Ukraine must study the economic foundations of Azerbaijan’s military success - Atlantic Council

[Roman Alymov 0]

On 11/25/2020 at 5:41 PM, glenn239 said:

Western publication offers Ukraine advice on combating Russian domination; wait 25 years and see if Russia has become weaker,

Ukraine must study the economic foundations of Azerbaijan’s military success - Atlantic Council

West fail to understand that, if drawing analogy between AZ-AM situation and situation between Russia and its breakaway part called Ukraine, Russia is more like Azerbaijan (big and relatively prosperous country with vast resources and rapidly modernized armed forces) while Ukraine is analog of Armenia (relatively small country with population leaving to places with higher living standards and mostly outdated armed forces)  

  Unfortunatelly Atlantic Council article is not available (NET::ERR_CERT_AUTHORITY_INVALID)

[sunday 0]

On 8/24/2020 at 6:39 PM, Simon Tan said:

Slav neonazis is the funniest thing.

Hold my kosher beer...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrol_36

[glenn239 0]

20 hours ago, Roman Alymov said:

West fail to understand that, if drawing analogy between AZ-AM situation and situation between Russia and its breakaway part called Ukraine, Russia is more like Azerbaijan (big and relatively prosperous country with vast resources and rapidly modernized armed forces) while Ukraine is analog of Armenia (relatively small country with population leaving to places with higher living standards and mostly outdated armed forces)  

  Unfortunatelly Atlantic Council article is not available (NET::ERR_CERT_AUTHORITY_INVALID)

The idea that Ukraine should wait 25 years to hope that Russia has cycled back into collapse is not inspiring advice, not in the least because it is entirely possible with global warming that Russia is going to economically boom, not bust.

[Roman Alymov 0]

On 11/28/2020 at 5:20 PM, glenn239 said:

The idea that Ukraine should wait 25 years to hope that Russia has cycled back into collapse is not inspiring advice, not in the least because it is entirely possible with global warming that Russia is going to economically boom, not bust.

We do not know what will happen with Russia (and USA and others) in 25 years, but what is for sure is simple fact that old Soviet-time infrastructure of Ukraine is already 80-90% worn off, and there is almost no chance of it replaced in time before total collapse. In 25 years it will be dusty rust.  Ukraine is already finished as industrial country; within a decade it will be unable to support big cities. Even if miracle happen and Ukraine reintegrated peacefully back to mainland Russia, the best we can do is resettle  part of population to industrial areas in Russia where workhands are in strong demand, as simple repair of infrastructure of Ukraine after 30 years of abuse will take decades and concentrated efforts of entire Russia (not clear if such concentration is possible while staying with consumer capitalism model). Look at Crimea: six years after reintegration it is still behind mainland Russia in terms of infrastructure, despite massive investments and huge efforts of central Gov.  And Crimea is less than 3 mln population, while Ukraine is still 30+, even after years of loosing 1 mln a year

[Simon Tan 0]

Ukraine has curiously become the mirror for USian establishment interests. So Kiev goes, DC follows.

[KV7 0]

The most optimistic model will be some niche service sector in Kyiv and then backwardness elsewhere.

 

Edited Monday at 04:11 AM by KV7

[Roman Alymov 0]

19 hours ago, Simon Tan said:

Ukraine has curiously become the mirror for USian establishment interests. So Kiev goes, DC follows.

It is simplification – no reason to consider Ukraine as isolated case. In fact Ukraine is just  part of Russia (and Soviet Union) artificially separated along administrative borders and privatized by local Communist Party elite turning oligarchs, and controlled by Western politicians/security services since this political/business elite is totally dependent from ability to take their illegal assets (and families) to Western safe havens.  Practices we see in Ukraine (and in Russia before that) are to be seen later in US not because of some coincidence, but because of people in charge of them coming home to get new, higher positions in security services and political circles – and bringing their experience and training to new use.  Using newly created radical groups to prevent political opponents from taking power, spoiler candidates on elections etc - all this was allready tested in Russia in 1990th, and is still in wide use in Ukraine.

[Roman Alymov 0]

16 hours ago, KV7 said:

The most optimistic model will be some niche service sector in Kyiv and then backwardness elsewhere.
 

Niche service sector in Kyiv (city with population double vs. Estonia) is only able to exist in industrial country. Othervice it is redundant.