Kiev Is Burning

[seahawk]

1 hour ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Only a complete idiot thinks an end to the war is what is on offer.

At best all that is on offer is a ceasefire of 5-10 years before they try again. Who knows, Putin may be  dead by then. They might actually have someone who understands military matters by then, and wont keep stealing out the till.

The end of the war is realistic, if Russia is fully united.

[glenn239]

8 hours ago, Roman Alymov said:

Erosion of "Western block" is natural process that do not depend on Russia's actions 

Stop trying to blow sunshine up Strelkov's ass.  He's wrong, he does not know what he's talking about.  The reason why Trump is able to secure the political leverage to disengage from not only Ukraine, but NATO, is because of the manner in which Putin has handled the war in comparison to how the Europeans, Ukraine, and neocons in the US have conducted themselves.

Do not let what is said in this site fool you for general Western opinion.  People are not paying close attention to the Ukraine war, but they have noticed that the Russians are putting up with alot of shit from NATO with missile attacks and such into Russian territory.  The overall attitude has soured towards Europe and Ukraine.  Trump was elected on the foreign policy front to deal with the problem, and part of the reason why he won is because of how Putin has managed the war.  (In Canada we have our own problems with Trump right now, but these are viewed as a problem with Trump in particular).

Edited February 14, 2025 by glenn239

[jmsaari]

7 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Only a complete idiot thinks an end to the war is what is on offer.

At best all that is on offer is a ceasefire of 5-10 years before they try again. Who knows, Putin may be  dead by then. They might actually have someone who understands military matters by then, and wont keep stealing out the till.

How silly of you. If history has taught us anything, it's that when authoritarian regimes push for land grabs, letting them get what they want is how you preserve peace and end the aggressions for good.

[Ssnake]

Please, God, No! Not another seahawk.

[JWB]

https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/1890446444345037000

A pair of Ukrainian engineers inspect the gaping hole in the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant’s confinement unit after a Russian drone strike last night.

[glenn239]

12 minutes ago, JWB said:

https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/1890446444345037000

A pair of Ukrainian engineers inspect the gaping hole in the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant’s confinement unit after a Russian drone strike last night.

Russian drone strike?  

[Ssnake]

1 hour ago, glenn239 said:

Russian drone strike?  

You're right, Siebel ferry looks more likely.

[Stuart Galbraith]

Or alternatively a war elephant fired by trebuchet. I'm reliably informed they make a siebel ferry sized hole.

 

[Roman Alymov]

4 hours ago, glenn239 said:

Russian drone strike?  

Pro-Rus take on that 

"Hitting the sarcophagus of the Chernobyl Nuclear Power plant is just a quick improvisation. They came up with something in a hurry.

In a week or two, they'll come up with a special dirty trick. They'll set up a barn with some disabled children from the music and mathematics lyceum at the Uman Synagogue and burn it down, they'll say a Russian rocket has arrived. British intelligence will confirm whether independent OSINT researchers from London have committed a crime and will publish a protocol from Putin's bunker with a clear instruction to bomb this particular barn with a Hazelnut.

People are making a fuss - you can't stop the war, otherwise this will come up, God forbid!" ( https://t.me/historiographe/18013 )

Interestingly, pro-Ukrainians are allready spreading in Belorussia  fake news reels about radiation level increase   -indicating it was pre-planed action (fake reel can't be created and spread in few hours) https://t.me/belarus_antifake/179

[Roman Alymov]

British Mastiff MRAP was stuck while crossing tank bridge over Smerdlitsa river in Kursk region (installed by M60 AVLB few days ago during pro-Ukr attack south of Sunja https://t.me/milinfolive/141752 ) and, while driver was enjoying his sigarete, FPV drone came and finish it off, sealing remaining pro-Ukr armor on other side of the river

https://t.me/milinfolive/141979

[Roman Alymov]

8 hours ago, glenn239 said:

Stop trying to blow sunshine up Strelkov's ass.  He's wrong, he does not know what he's talking about. 

  I'm sorry but why do you think it is quote from Strelkov? It is my thoughts, and seems like at least some people in West top political leadership have simmilar ideas

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14397163/JD-vance-Munich-europe.html

"'Europe faces many challenges, but the crisis this continent faces right now, the crisis I believe we all face together, is one of our own making,' he said."

8 hours ago, glenn239 said:

 The reason why Trump is able to secure the political leverage to disengage from not only Ukraine, but NATO, is because of the manner in which Putin has handled the war in comparison to how the Europeans, Ukraine, and neocons in the US have conducted themselves.

Well, as i have repeatedly said here, "Russian elite" aka "collective Putin", while pro-Western and comprador, are far more competent then Western politicians, for one simple reason: in 1990th, people making their way to the top (or just "up") power and business ladder in Russia were not only killing competitors on the way, but were also risking own lifes. And competitive envirionment of this type is very good at filtering out people of at least Western politicians level of arrogance and incompetence...... Still, it is not making this people "care about interests of Russia"

8 hours ago, glenn239 said:

Trump was elected on the foreign policy front to deal with the problem, and part of the reason why he won is because of how Putin has managed the war. 

And "how Putin has managed the war?" Yes "collective Putin", despite of defection of many key members (who suddenly realized  they are foreign citizens and got nothing to do with Russia) have prevented outright collapse (as this collapse would have ked to their own death, with family members). But the same people are still dragging their feet to fight the war, as they still dream about white masters changing their mind and allowing them back into juniour members status.....

[glenn239]

57 minutes ago, Roman Alymov said:

And "how Putin has managed the war?" 

Well, Zelensky started off with NATO in his pocket, and now he's down to launching drone strikes against Chernobyl in hopes of breaking up American-Russian talks.  Had Putin played his cards the way you and other 'pro-Russians' had wanted, I doubt Trump would have as much latitude to do what he's doing now.

[Roman Alymov]

7 hours ago, glenn239 said:

Well, Zelensky started off with NATO in his pocket, and now he's down to launching drone strikes against Chernobyl in hopes of breaking up American-Russian talks.  

I'm sorry but "Zelensky started off" in 2001 as standup comedian personally begging from the stage for "Putin please take ne out of here, even as reparationm for <Ukraine> debts" (in front of Putin himself)

 

Not to mention Zelensky newer had "NATO in his pocket", as NATO was right from the start using him as one of the tools to weaken Russia.

7 hours ago, glenn239 said:

 Had Putin played his cards the way you and other 'pro-Russians' had wanted, I doubt Trump would have as much latitude to do what he's doing now.

Had Putin "played his cards the way me and other 'pro-Russians' had wanted", Ukraine would have been reintegrated (without bloodshed!) with Russia long before Trump became President for the first time.

[Stuart Galbraith]

Clearly it was Putin, recognising that the Europeans were wavering, so he figured the threat of a load of radioactive fallout falling across Europe, just as his forebears did in 1986, is just the thing to get them to fall in line.

In that as in many other things he is hopelessly off base. But its amusing as always to see the usual suspects desperately try to sweep up after him, as I daresay they always will.

Edited February 15, 2025 by Stuart Galbraith

[Stuart Galbraith]

1 hour ago, Roman Alymov said:

I'm sorry but "Zelensky started off" in 2001 as standup comedian personally begging from the stage for "Putin please take ne out of here, even as reparationm for <Ukraine> debts" (in front of Putin himself)

 

Not to mention Zelensky newer had "NATO in his pocket", as NATO was right from the start using him as one of the tools to weaken Russia.

Had Putin "played his cards the way me and other 'pro-Russians' had wanted", Ukraine would have been reintegrated (without bloodshed!) with Russia long before Trump became President for the first time.

And Putin started out a paper pusher in the mass murdering KGB. Churchill liked jokes as well, Ill always take a comedian over a mass murderer, any day of the week.

[Stefan Kotsch]

2 hours ago, Roman Alymov said:

Zelensky started off" in 2001 as standup comedian

Ronald Reagan was a Western film actor. Furthermore, Selensky studied Selenski law. So this is an argument without a foundation.

There are presidents who had to work as a "Carpenter of category 4" and as a taxi driver. Incidentally, the carpenter is regularly the subject of mockery in the Russian readers' crevices.

Edited February 15, 2025 by Stefan Kotsch

[Stuart Galbraith]

Lech Walesa was just a Shipbuilder, and he brought down the entire Eastern Bloc. It just goes to show, its not the profession, its the man.

[mkenny]

4 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Lech Walesa was just a Shipbuilder, 

Not so-he was an informer as well. 

[Stuart Galbraith]

Well of course they Russians WOULD say that. They're still butthurt about it.

[Roman Alymov]

1 hour ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Well of course they Russians WOULD say that. They're still butthurt about it.

Let me direct you to my old post on that

 

[Roman Alymov]

10 hours ago, Stefan Kotsch said:

Ronald Reagan was a Western film actor. Furthermore, Selensky studied Selenski law. So this is an argument without a foundation.

It is actually remarkable how you and Stuart are both pretending not to see " personally begging from the stage for "Putin please take ne out of here, even as reparationm for <Ukraine> debts" (in front of Putin himself)" part, while clatching at "standup comedian" part. 

      And no, Zelensky is not even close to Ronald Reagan  who, in between being film actor and becoming President of USA, served as officer in US Army during WWII (not in combat duties, but still far different from Zelensky, who have dodged repeated mobilization notices), was trade union leader in very complex postwar years (Zelensky newer had any elected positions prior to becoming President), and was Governer of State that is bigger then some countries (Zelensky newer was in charge of something significant prior to becoming President). By the way i'm not sure you understand Zelensky acted as President of Ukraine in comedy series where he was elected from the job of high school history teacher in RUSSIAN school in Kiev (and entier series were in RUSSIAN).

10 hours ago, Stefan Kotsch said:

There are presidents who had to work as a "Carpenter of category 4" and as a taxi driver. Incidentally, the carpenter is regularly the subject of mockery in the Russian readers' crevices.

No idea why you think i care who was Putin before he was selected as Yeltsin to take care of saving "The Family" from Russian people anger. May be you have not notices, but i am not a big fan of Putin.

[Roman Alymov]

FiberFPVs vs. M113 with anti-drone "barn" and its unlucky crew. Note fiberFPVs are now cheap enough to be used against single infantryman. Kursk region. https://t.me/infomil_live/14997

P.S. Concrete roadside "box" surviving dismounts were trying to take cover in is Soviet-time busstop.

[Stuart Galbraith]

12 hours ago, Roman Alymov said:

Let me direct you to my old post on that

 

Still the man that brought down the Eastern Bloc whether you like it or not. If he ever was an Informer, which I doubt, I submit he was a far from optimum one...

[Roman Alymov]

2 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Still the man that brought down the Eastern Bloc whether you like it or not. If he ever was an Informer, which I doubt, I submit he was a far from optimum one...

The man who "brought down the Eastern Bloc" was Lenin, since it were basic mistakes of what is known as "Lenin's ethnic policy" that set the roots of future collapse (since Lenin personally and his teammates were newer interested in Russia - they were playing for global revolutin that was predicted to have its centre in most industrially developed countries of that time, not Russia).

       All this "freedom fighters" were just larvaes eating allready dead flesh.

[Stuart Galbraith]

No, the man that brought down the Eastern Bloc was Walesa.

You can draw a straight line from Solidarity, to the 1989 election, to the Solidarity victory, to the rest of Eastern Europe becoming unzipped. Although hilariously, one can also point to Stalin having a role. if he hadnt forcibly incorporated Poland over Western objections, you wouldnt have had such troublesome shipbuilders to contain. My heart bleeds, really it does.