Kiev Is Burning

[seahawk]

A North Korean soldier would never surrender, as he would dishonour his country and his family.

[Stuart Galbraith]

Thats right, they are Not North Koreans (TM). You can tell by the not haunted look, as if they are not haunted by the memory of what the Dear Leader wont do to them.

[Stefan Kotsch]

The Ukrainian NASHA NIVA writes:

...
One of the two DPRK soldiers captured by Ukrainians, revealed on January 11, had a military ID card in the name of Antonin Aranchyn, a Tyva resident born in October 1998.
The document indicates the place of birth of this person (the city of Turan in Tyva) and his civilian profession (tailor). The military ID does not contain a photo, date or signature of the owner.
...

https://nashaniva.com/ru/359253/

[LeeWalls]

On 1/8/2025 at 1:52 PM, seahawk said:

Considering the Waffen-SS was also made up of the same Untermenschen and today that they even celebrate that tradition, I would say it largely the same and I think Russia will again have to drive tanks into Berlin to end the war.

The protagonist of "White Tiger" will be ready.

[Stuart Galbraith]

White Challenger. It could be the perfect sequel.

 

[Roman Alymov]

7 hours ago, Stefan Kotsch said:

The Ukrainian NASHA NIVA writes:

...
One of the two DPRK soldiers captured by Ukrainians, revealed on January 11, had a military ID card in the name of Antonin Aranchyn, a Tyva resident born in October 1998.
The document indicates the place of birth of this person (the city of Turan in Tyva) and his civilian profession (tailor). The military ID does not contain a photo, date or signature of the owner.
...

https://nashaniva.com/ru/359253/

You are describing the paper photo of which was published by Bojan on previous page of this thread

 

As for me, this is very strange document (actually, it is not even "document"  - just half-filled in document form). No seals, no photo, no issue date.....  What is the sake of having this type of paper for hypothetical NK soldier? He can't, for example, produce it to military police or any civil administration. I'm sure real "documents of cover" are properly filled, sealed and got at least correct photo. 

P.S. Note i am not debating NK soldiers presence - just comment on awkward and incompetent attempts by West to provide some hard proofs of their presence. Taking into account how long and active (reportedly) NK participation in combat operations is, the fact no NK soldier was up to this moment demonstrated alive or dead is actually remarkable, indicating probably professionalism, bravery and dedication of NKoreans.

Edited January 12 by Roman Alymov

[ink]

11 hours ago, Roman Alymov said:

P.S. Note i am not debating NK soldiers presence - just comment on awkward and incompetent attempts by West to provide some hard proofs of their presence. Taking into account how long and active (reportedly) NK participation in combat operations is, the fact no NK soldier was up to this moment demonstrated alive or dead is actually remarkable, indicating probably professionalism, bravery and dedication of NKoreans.

Yes, exactly! That's what I was saying before - what's weird here isn't the presence of NK troops, it's the regular inconsistencies and misreporting (not to mention downright weirdness) of the way this is reported by (a) the Western media, and (b) the Ukrainian propagandists.

Edited January 13 by ink

[Stuart Galbraith]

Do you mean Best Koreans (TM) or Real Siberians (TM)?

 

[Roman Alymov]

Locals in Vinnitsa (Western Ukraine) have managed to liberate their friend from the grip of menhunters, despite of one of press-gang waved pistol at them

https://t.me/boris_rozhin/151142

[ink]

8 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Do you mean Best Koreans (TM) or Real Siberians (TM)?

 

Well, fair enough, but don't you think it's a bit unusual that we've had literally several each of:

First North Koreans killed in Ukraine!

Ukrainians face NKs in combat for the first time!

First NKs captured by Ukrainian troops!

It's almost as though there are actually very few NK troops deployed and the media need to spin out and make a huge deal out of something that's a bit of a non-story.

[Roman Alymov]

9 hours ago, ink said:

Yes, exactly! That's what I was saying before - what's weird here isn't the presence of NK troops, it's the regular inconsistencies and misreporting (not to mention downright weirdness) of the way this is reported by a) the Western media, and the Ukrainian propagandists.

Well, as i have allready said, the presence of NK troops by itself is very strange politically (see my old post below)

9 hours ago, ink said:

...... it's the regular inconsistencies and misreporting (not to mention downright weirdness) of the way this is reported by a) the Western media, and the Ukrainian propagandists.

Inconsistencies are the norm for "Ukrainian propagandists" and pro-Ukrainians in general. They are constantly bragging about "NK dog-eaters now eaten by dogs" etc. while demand assistance from SKoreans (who are direct relatives of the men they are so happy to tell the stories about how their corpses are eaten by dogs). They brag about "Russians are not Skavic but just genetic trash, Finno-Ugric tribe" while demand assistance from both Finland and Hungary and so on.....

 

[Roman Alymov]

3 minutes ago, ink said:

It's almost as though there are actually very few NK troops deployed and the media need to spin out and make a huge deal out of something that's a bit of a non-story.

As for me, the real question to ask iks why Western media are in such a bad need to hype NK troops story. After all, there is entire "International legion" on pro-Ukr side, without any meaningful effect....

[mkenny]

24 minutes ago, ink said:

Well, fair enough, but don't you think it's a bit unusual that we've had literally several each of:

First North Koreans killed in Ukraine!

Ukrainians face NKs in combat for the first time!

First NKs captured by Ukrainian troops!

It's almost as though there are actually very few NK troops deployed and the media need to spin out and make a huge deal out of something that's a bit of a non-story.

When the enemy is making strategic territorial gains and your propaganda  is  focused  on the capture of  1 or 2  enemy POWs  then you should start worrying that things may be a lot worse  than what  you are being told.  

[Roman Alymov]

By the way pro-Ukr channels are spreading this video of, as they claim, two captured NKoreans

https://t.me/info_zp/91768

 

[Roman Alymov]

10 minutes ago, mkenny said:

When the enemy is making strategic territorial gains and your propaganda  is  focused  on the capture of  1 or 2  enemy POWs  then you should start worrying that things may be a lot worse  than what  you are being told.  

Yes, note how little (if any) said about Rus armor reaching more or less strategic Pokrovsk-Konstantinovka highway

https://t.me/creamy_caprice/8097

while one or two NKoreans is a big deal.

      But, looking at another angle, presence of NKoreans (=China proxy war) is really strategic matter. Having global #1 industrial power support is making the prospects of this war bleak for West, and is also meaning capitulation opportunities for Russian elite are becoming very limited (taking into how unpopular "collective Putin" is in Russia, the last thing they need is another "Wagner-style riot" supported by even battalion of NKoreans)

[Stuart Galbraith]

2 hours ago, ink said:

Well, fair enough, but don't you think it's a bit unusual that we've had literally several each of:

First North Koreans killed in Ukraine!

Ukrainians face NKs in combat for the first time!

First NKs captured by Ukrainian troops!

It's almost as though there are actually very few NK troops deployed and the media need to spin out and make a huge deal out of something that's a bit of a non-story.

I think there is a case that where we have all adopted cynicism armour (TM), some things are just what they appear to be and its easily possible to overthink it.

[Stefan Kotsch]

What does occam's razor actually say to the North Koreans?

[Mike1158]

Ouch!  Pass the tissue paper?

[old_goat]

11 hours ago, Roman Alymov said:

Yes, note how little (if any) said about Rus armor reaching more or less strategic Pokrovsk-Konstantinovka highway

https://t.me/creamy_caprice/8097

while one or two NKoreans is a big deal.

Also the recent liberation of Kurakhovo and Toretsk. Both are significant defeats for Ukr army. 

[JWB]

War crimes:

 

[Roman Alymov]

Classic horror movie scene - lucky escape from green zombie, feature lucky M1 Abrams driver candidate saved in last seconds

https://t.me/boris_rozhin/151221

P.S. Not all cases end up with lucky escape - this man in Kharkov was surrounded, beaten and pushed into car..... https://t.me/anna_news/75142

Edited January 13 by Roman Alymov

[Roman Alymov]

Video of miltiple cluster ATACMS hits in Bryansk https://t.me/anna_news/75150

[Roman Alymov]

In Kharkov locals (one of them armed with pistol} have pushed aside recruiters and liberated their catch (two men) out from minivan through broken glass https://t.me/anna_news/75156

[Roman Alymov]

"Ukrainian civil society" we were told so much about - in action: Pedestians in Dnepropetrovsk assists man out of the hands of press-gang, and woman in car urges him to jump in and drive him away from danger https://t.me/anna_news/75217

Not all future M1 Abrams crew members are so lucky: Here is the video of press-gang in Kharkov waiting for a man who is hiding from them in ice-cold water of local pond https://t.me/milinfolive/139832

[Roman Alymov]

Interesting story from FSB that was not pulished before: back in the autumn of 2023, "prior to another NATO meeting", Ukr Intelligence attempted to bribe pro-Russian military unit with USD 1mln to sell them key position (slaghips and buildings of "Gagarin coalmine" dominating over Gorlovka city). Pro-Rus intelligence was in control of the deal, asked for USD 100K in cash as advance pay, and it was delivered to them. Then pro-Ukr SOF were trapped when they attempted to take what they believed they have purchased

https://t.me/sashakots/51285

https://t.me/sashakots/51286