Kiev Is Burning

[Roman Alymov]

Following today's attack on Odessa, a lot of photos of Patriot SAM wrecks that falled on the city were published

https://t.me/The_Wrong_Side/19731

One missile that killed 10 people (including 7 poliecemen) was identified as advanced PAC-3 MSE 

https://t.me/lost_armour/3833?single

https://t.me/anna_news/73103

[Roman Alymov]

12 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Just in time for the Article 5.

Molon labe.

13 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Tell that to Lockheed Martin.

Thank you for confirming US policy is defined not by democratically elected leaders, but by corporate CEOs.

[Yama]

1 hour ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Just in time for the Article 5.

Much like Russia's posturing about 'escalation' and 'nuclear threats', Article 5 loses its effect if it's thrown around too casually.

[Ssnake]

15 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Who knows, maybe Sholtz, jolted by the poor reception of his phone call with Putin, might dump Taurus on the the pile.

Not gonna happen. Scholz is basically under the heel of Mützenich, and the latter is a dyed-in-the-wool radical pacifist who believes in unilateral disarmament as the road to world peace.

For a short period in 2022 Scholz had the momentum of public support on his side. But Mützenich bid his time, and regrouped. Just look at last summer's budget negotiations. Who was the only minister didn't even get as much as inflation? Pistorius and the MOD. Why? Because, principle, and because Pistorius is popular.

[glenn239]

5 hours ago, Roman Alymov said:

US is printing USD 1 trillion (=1000 billions) every 100 days, it means 10 billions per day. How many days of money printing will be lost if contracts gone, you say?

US Debt was 22 trillion at the end of fiscal year 2019, (September 30th).  It's now 36 trillion.  14 trillion in 5 years - this more like 760 billion every 100 days....

[Roman Alymov]

7 hours ago, glenn239 said:

US Debt was 22 trillion at the end of fiscal year 2019, (September 30th).  It's now 36 trillion.  14 trillion in 5 years - this more like 760 billion every 100 days....

"The U.S. national debt is rising by $1 trillion every 100 days," Michael Hartnett, chief strategist of Bank of America, wrote in a note to clients seen by CNBC, adding it's "little wonder ‘debt debasement’ trades [are] closing in on all-time highs." ( The ‘Only Way To Save The Dollar’—Trump And Biden Warned Of Collapse As Fed Prints ‘$1 Trillion Every 100 Days’)

[Stuart Galbraith]

10 hours ago, Yama said:

Much like Russia's posturing about 'escalation' and 'nuclear threats', Article 5 loses its effect if it's thrown around too casually.

If Russia is attacking our communications, I think we are in danger of taking it too casually. We would act if they were interfering with our shipping in a blockade. Whats different if they are interfering with our commerce and our ability to communicate?

For this, no, I don think it warrants it. If they go after transatlantic cables, then yes, I think it probably does.

[Stuart Galbraith]

8 hours ago, Ssnake said:

Not gonna happen. Scholz is basically under the heel of Mützenich, and the latter is a dyed-in-the-wool radical pacifist who believes in unilateral disarmament as the road to world peace.

For a short period in 2022 Scholz had the momentum of public support on his side. But Mützenich bid his time, and regrouped. Just look at last summer's budget negotiations. Who was the only minister didn't even get as much as inflation? Pistorius and the MOD. Why? Because, principle, and because Pistorius is popular.

Is there any hope the clown car is going to crash, and Germany is going to get something more assertive? Too much to hope for?

[seahawk]

No, German population is in favour of peace. German aid will be reduced or dropped after the coming elections.

[Stuart Galbraith]

Well at least you will be able to sleep peacefully in your beds if you give Russian peace a chance. For the next heartbeat or so anyway.

 

Ukrainian nursery teacher brings down a Russian drone with her first combat launch.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/watch-ukrainian-nursery-teacher-takes-101259744.html

Particularly liked this one, the astonishment on her face is a delight.

 

[Ssnake]

@Stuart WRT clown car crash chances:

While the Thuringia state elections aren't representative of the country as a whole, AfD, Linke, and Bündnis Putinknecht together won 60% of the vote. They can't agree how to serve Putin, but the reality is that the SPD senses that there might me a bigger voter share in this demographic. It's difficult to resist a lure that confirms your own biases.

[Stuart Galbraith]

Have German politicians pointed out the tidal wave of refugees are going to follow a Russian victory in the war?

[Ssnake]

Nope.

Well, maybe the AfD would be xenophobic enough to play that card, but it would undermine their claim that immediate peace negotiations are for the better of the poor Ukrainian people who are so suffering from this war of The West against defenseless, stronk Russia.

Well, I have trouble following their logic, as you can tell.

[seahawk]

At least behind closed door they do. But Ukrainians integrate easily, are well educated and adjust to the society well, so it is a net gain.

Edited November 19, 2024 by seahawk

[Roman Alymov]

Just now, Stuart Galbraith said:

Ukrainian nursery teacher brings down a Russian drone with her first combat launch.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/watch-ukrainian-nursery-teacher-takes-101259744.html

Particularly liked this one, the astonishment on her face is a delight.

First, why "Russian drone" if pro-Ukrainians are claiming cruise missile (note the distant sound of jet engine before launch - here is the video if you do not have it https://t.me/info_zp/86465 )

Second, I'm sorry but pro-Ukrainians are pushing this video around as part of their efforts to promote mobilization of females. In theory, there is no obstacle for properly trained female to hit target by MANPADs (after all, all-female AA gun crews were practiced by USSR during WWII, and AA gun is far more complex weapon to handle) and "first combat launch" is not obstacle (MANPADs were initially designed for WWIII where for most of operators first combat launch would be also the last one) - but in this particular case the missile launched hit the roof of nearby house https://t.me/Mestb_Dobroj_Voli/13452

Heavy MG vs. cruise missile (claimed shot down https://t.me/info_zp/86486 )

[Stuart Galbraith]

In fact if you had watched the news, you would know Ukrainian F16's have been engaging drones, fully explaining the jet noise.

Yes, its always the way with you guys, you have to turn a video of a someone achieving a personal triumph into a psychodrama.

[Roman Alymov]

11 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Have German politicians pointed out the tidal wave of refugees are going to follow a Russian victory in the war?

They could always send them back to Russia. By the way, pro-Ukrainians are complaining that at least 30% of Mariupol residents who have initially fled to Kiev-controlled territory have now returned to the city 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjox_LI_-eJAxVJU1UIHQ1YIKoQFnoECBoQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fglobal.espreso.tv%2Frussia-ukraine-war-around-30-of-mariupol-residents-return-to-occupied-territories-ukrainian-official&usg=AOvVaw1szhxeSKHupU-dLzSf1dmM&opi=89978449

[Stuart Galbraith]

11 minutes ago, seahawk said:

At least behind closed door they do. But Ukrainians integrate easily, are well educated and adjust to the society well, so it is a net gain.

Try 20 million of them overnight, and somehow I think your enthusiasm will pall.

[Roman Alymov]

4 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

In fact if you had watched the news, you would know Ukrainian F16's have been engaging drones, fully explaining the jet noise.

If you had watched the news, you would know "Ukrainian F16's have been engaging drones"  over Western Ukraine (see this video from Ivano-Frankovsk https://t.me/milinfolive/135218 ), hundreds of miles away from Kharkov region where, as initially claimed, cruise missile was shot down. Of course we can't be fully sure about locations at war time (this femake soldier is from Ternopol brigade, next region to Ivano-Frankovsk ( Наталія Грабарчук, зенітниця ПС ЗСУ, знищила крилату ракету ). Anyway, i see no reason for you to continue claiming target was drone while all pro-Ukr sources say it was cruise missile.

18 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Yes, its always the way with you guys, you have to turn a video of a someone achieving a personal triumph into a psychodrama.

The psychodrama it was for the family who have lost house as the result. As i have said before, there is nothing impossible in female working as MANPAD operator (see article above - she was trained for 5 month and in  army since 2021, more then most of male soldiers on both sides of frontline)

"Five months of intensive training at the training center allowed Natalia to master various types of man-portable air defense systems. Since 2021, she has been serving as an anti-aircraft gunner in the Galician-Volyn Radio Engineering Brigade of the Zapad Air Command.

"When the enemy missile was in front of me, I threw away all emotions and excitement. I made hundreds of training launches on simulators,” says Natalia.

According to her, despite the weight of the MANPADS of 18 kilograms and huge responsibility, she managed to successfully complete the combat mission."

   But in this particular case, launch went wrong, according to claims of people who lost the house. That could happen with male soldier too - and we only know about it because pro-Ukr propaganda is in need for poster stories to mobilize women.

[Roman Alymov]

12 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Try 20 million of them overnight, and somehow I think your enthusiasm will pall.

Again, send them to Russia.

[Roman Alymov]

Text from Miroslava Reginskaya (wife of Igor Strelkov) https://t.me/i_strelkov_2023/1331

"Today is a kind of anniversary — 1000 days since the beginning of SVO. 

I remember its beginning — how many hopes there were, how happy we were that the Russian Spring had finally awakened after an eight-year freeze, and the work of protecting the people of Novorossiya would continue.

Something has come true in these thousand days - we have indeed returned part of our territories, the LPR and continue to return the DPR. I would like to return our Kharkov, Kiev, and Odessa to the same place. I know that all this is still ahead and we will have many difficulties on the way. 

SVO has become a serious test for our country. It turned out that Victory requires, among other things, the active support of the rear, ordinary people, and each of us.

A significant result of the first thousand days of SVO is the grassroots self—organization of many, many Russian people who selflessly give their labor, knowledge, talent, and material resources for the sake of Victory. As they say, "all of us are us." 

The military confrontation will not end right now or in the near future. It is already clear that more and more new parties are being drawn into the global conflict. And in these new conditions, we will need maximum dedication and awareness that we have no other way.

And I see that during this time we have learned to help each other, we have learned how to solve the most difficult tasks. Therefore, we continue to work. We will definitely stand up and win."

[Stuart Galbraith]

7 minutes ago, Roman Alymov said:

Again, send them to Russia.

yeah, you would absolutely love that. Yes, lets absolutely reward you for your stupid war of aggression.

[Roman Alymov]

5 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

yeah, you would absolutely love that. Yes, lets absolutely reward you for your stupid war of aggression.

Yes we would love to have millions of Russians back home (and hundreds of thousands are allready back - see pro-Ukr complains above, 30% of Mariupol population back is 150K, and it is just one city).

The same way, as i have said in another thread, it would be nice to have millions of Russians of Jewish origin to come back to Russia too.

[PaulFormerlyinSaudi]

On 11/18/2024 at 1:20 AM, seahawk said:

This is insanity. Seems like the left wants global war.

 

I would suppose victory is what is desired. 

[TrustMe]

2 hours ago, Roman Alymov said:

Text from Miroslava Reginskaya (wife of Igor Strelkov) https://t.me/i_strelkov_2023/1331

"Today is a kind of anniversary — 1000 days since the beginning of SVO. 

I remember its beginning — how many hopes there were, how happy we were that the Russian Spring had finally awakened after an eight-year freeze, and the work of protecting the people of Novorossiya would continue.

Something has come true in these thousand days - we have indeed returned part of our territories, the LPR and continue to return the DPR. I would like to return our Kharkov, Kiev, and Odessa to the same place. I know that all this is still ahead and we will have many difficulties on the way. 

SVO has become a serious test for our country. It turned out that Victory requires, among other things, the active support of the rear, ordinary people, and each of us.

A significant result of the first thousand days of SVO is the grassroots self—organization of many, many Russian people who selflessly give their labor, knowledge, talent, and material resources for the sake of Victory. As they say, "all of us are us." 

The military confrontation will not end right now or in the near future. It is already clear that more and more new parties are being drawn into the global conflict. And in these new conditions, we will need maximum dedication and awareness that we have no other way.

And I see that during this time we have learned to help each other, we have learned how to solve the most difficult tasks. Therefore, we continue to work. We will definitely stand up and win."

 

I wonder which intelligence officer wrote that.