Kiev Is Burning

[Roman Alymov]

7 minutes ago, Yama said:

All foreign volunteer stories I have read are unanimous in that casualty evacuation on Ukrainian side is a horrible mess, due to lack of suitable vehicles, poor organization and Russian artillery superiority. Witnessing the poor state of casevac was  major source of volunteers quitting. For example one volunteer perished during evacuation as he was sloppily tied on an ATV, and fell from the vehicle on bumpy terrain. If one happens to survive the evacuation, then Ukrainian medical care is quite good (and foreigners of course have an option to get treated in their home country).

Here worth noting foreign volunteers are usually part of "elite" pro-Ukr units that got better then average supply of vehicles, priority in evacuation etc. Imagine the situation in "non-elite" units.

     On pro-Rus side, the main complains now are about drone danger resulting in next to complene isolation of frontline from  any relatively safe rear zone.  Not only vehicles can't approach frontline - even evacuation groups on foot often can't reach WIA to evacuate them for weeks (and "first line" is supplied by drones). For example, this guy from Yakutia have spent 17 days waiting for evacuation and have amputated injured leg by own knife to safe himself from gangrene https://t.me/boris_rozhin/144353

16 minutes ago, Yama said:

Only advantage cited on Ukrainian side was access to more modern, effective tourniquets, which were credited to have saved many lives.

  Unfortunatelly, the reverse side of wide use of tourniquets (and soldiers trained to "apply them as high as possible") in combination with long evacuation time is disproportionately high number of "high" ampuations.

[MiGG0]

2 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Alright, lets look at it like this. We have the Russian MOD that always lies, even about things that there is no reason to lie.

And the British MOD, that openly admits its it cant fight out of a paper bag. Basically, we tell the truth, even when it suits our interests to lie.

Yes, anyone can wring their hands and say they are unable to decide. It probably comes of the modern cynicism which all the kool kids practice these days.

No, as I said British MOD has been caught on lieing aswell. Good example was Mariupol where British MOD daily brief stated that RUS were not even near Mariupol center when same time RUS News showed them visiting famous Mariupol theater that was bombed (which is in Center of Mariupol)-> First thing to come mind comes that picture of Irak defence minister telling ”no Americans even near of Bagdad”

Trurh is that British MOD lies when it suits them and they just parrot UKR claims.

Edited November 16, 2024 by MiGG0

[Roman Alymov]

12 minutes ago, MiGG0 said:

No, as I said British MOD has been caught on lieing aswell. Good example was Mariupol where British MOD daily brief stated that RUS were not even near Mariupol center when same time RUS News showed them visiting famous Mariupol theater that was bombed (which is in Center of Mariupol)-> First thing to come mind comes that picture of Irak defence minister telling ”no Americans even near of Bagdad”

Trurh is that British MOD lies when it suits them and they just parrot UKR claims.

As for me, reporting about "Russian defences breached in Rabotino" last year was more telling - we were bombarded about reports of how successful are NATO-tranined, equiped and commanded troops there and how they will reach the sea soon....   

    By the way few days ago Rabotino area was fully liberated by pro-Russians - surprisingly, it was not noticed by Western media and omniscient British MoD

[Stuart Galbraith]

Russian now deported to be so short of AFVs in Kursk, they are launching attacks in Ural trucks.

 

 

[Yama]

2 hours ago, Roman Alymov said:

Here worth noting foreign volunteers are usually part of "elite" pro-Ukr units that got better then average supply of vehicles, priority in evacuation etc. Imagine the situation in "non-elite" units.

What I have read, it's more like other way around - the International Legion proper, and its offshoots, like Norman Brigade etc, are a shambolic mess. Capable foreign soldiers have mostly moved to Ukrainian Army or GUR units on individual basis.

[Roman Alymov]

15 minutes ago, Yama said:

What I have read, it's more like other way around - the International Legion proper, and its offshoots, like Norman Brigade etc, are a shambolic mess. Capable foreign soldiers have mostly moved to Ukrainian Army or GUR units on individual basis.

First, it depends on what is the basis to compare with. No doubt it is mess compared to Western units operating somewhere in Iraq, where opponents are peasants armed with AKs. But if compared to regular UkrArmy units (even more or less "elite" brigades armed with Western armor etc.)  - it may be not so obvious.

Second, as you have noted, Western "hunters" got sort of privelege to select the units to join/move to  - and, no surprise, they end up in units where (as they believe) conditions are better.

[Roman Alymov]

15 hours ago, Roman Alymov said:

  Unfortunatelly, the reverse side of wide use of tourniquets (and soldiers trained to "apply them as high as possible") in combination with long evacuation time is disproportionately high number of "high" ampuations.

P.S. Illustration on the effects of combination of tourniquets and difficulty of evacuation: UrkArmy soldier's hand after tourniquet applied for 22 days (!), 18+

https://t.me/NeoficialniyBeZsonoV/41512

[Stefan Kotsch]

The training should actually teach that such blood vessel compresses should be loosened at regular intervals to ensure a minimum blood circulation.

Edited November 17, 2024 by Stefan Kotsch

[bojan]

1 hour ago, Stefan Kotsch said:

The training should actually teach that such blood vessel compresses should be loosened at regular intervals to ensure a minimum blood circulation.

There is also overapplication of tourniquets by both sides instead of (more complicated) wound packing, indicating either unavailability of low level medics (locally wound packing was supposed to be done by every company medics or even plt level medic if co level was unavailable) or their poor training*. Some vids show applying tourniquets for relatively minor wound, because people are afraid of internal bleeding in the arm/leg (!). They are also often applied very high on the limb (because it is convenient place to carry them), way above the wound. That all indicates pretty low understanding of the first aid techniques.

*I was told that tourniquet is only to be applied in case of major blood weasel damage, and rest should be dealt with wound packing with properly applied pressure with hemostatic material.

[Rick]

1978 received Corpsman training from Vietnam era Corpsman that had served with the U.S.M.C. and IIRC, there was no need for a tourniquet for any wounded except an amputation.   

[Roman Alymov]

1 hour ago, bojan said:

There is also overapplication of tourniquets by both sides instead of (more complicated) wound packing, indicating either unavailability of low level medics (locally wound packing was supposed to be done by every company medics or even plt level medic if co level was unavailable) or their poor training*.

Realities of this war is soldiers often are alone or in very small groups (2-5 men) packed in some sort of half-ruined field bunker or basement with miles and miles of "dead zone" around, where even single soldier on foot is target for many drones. Not surprising often there is nobody to provide adequate medical help, especially if all members of the group are also wounded (that is common case as drones carry IEDs loaded with many small fragments, like "bullets" for pheumatic guns).

1 hour ago, bojan said:

Some vids show applying tourniquets for relatively minor wound, because people are afraid of internal bleeding in the arm/leg (!).

Current Russian training (probably the same for adversary side) is immediate self-application of tourniquet as high as possible, as in case of massive bleeding within 20-30 seconds person would "flow" and start loosing ability for action.

[Roman Alymov]

FiberFPV vs. abandoned Marder IFV, Kursk region https://t.me/milinfolive/135230

Edited November 17, 2024 by Roman Alymov

[Roman Alymov]

UK could be low on Storm Shadow missiles for Kiev – The Times | MAMUL.am - News from Armenia, Artsakh (Nagorno-Karabakh) and the world

I wonder if it is true - since effectively it means entire stock of Storm Shadows (except emergency reserve) was used up without obvious effect.....

[Stuart Galbraith]

It's far more likely Ukraine is saving them up for a special occasion. Like firing them inside Russia. Won't be long now.

[urbanoid]

Not much of a game changer, obviously, still nice though. Also better late than never, another escalationcels' L.

 

[Stuart Galbraith]

Sleepy Joe drags his feet to the point where it almost doesn't matter. When the history of this war is written, it will probably say in every chapter 'Joe Dithered.'

Now they can go after the Russian electrical supply, just in timefor Winter....

[urbanoid]

As we can see, more often than not we just need the US to take the lead.

 

 

[Stuart Galbraith]

No, that's was not the case. We authorised the use of Stormshadow even before Keir Starmer became PM. The hold up was Biden. I think he was reluctant to authorise the use of GPS.

The US hasn't taken a lead in the entire crisis, whether it's atgms, tanks or fighter aircraft.

 

[urbanoid]

If the US wasn't supportive of Ukraine 'in general', we (as in 'Europe') would have likely abandoned them a long time ago. 

[Stuart Galbraith]

If Britain hadn't sent them NLAW first and gave Biden a flea in his ear on multiple occasions to up the ante, then there would likely have been no support for Europe to abandon.

When Boris Johnson, a certifiable idiot if ever I saw one, could see the value of Ukraine winning, then I have to wonder what's been going on in Bidens head. Not very much.

 

[Roman Alymov]

Something strange is going on in Kursk region where, according to RusMoD report, significant number of pro-Ukr troops were blocked in the region of so called "Olgoka forest" (near Olgovka village). Initially it was disregarded (as nobody here takes MoD reports seriously) but it seems like in this particular place large groups of pro-Ukr infantry do try to get out on foot under strikes of pro-Rus FPV drones, resulting in videos i have newer seem on this war

https://t.me/milinfolive/135239?single

Edited November 17, 2024 by Roman Alymov

[Roman Alymov]

On 11/11/2024 at 2:06 PM, Roman Alymov said:

Did him? As i see from pro-Ukr regional channels, air alert about bombers in the air was called off without reports about missile hits, and swithing off electric networkd BEFORE striles is common practice in Ukraine (as it allows to limit the damage - pro-Ukr experts are proud about this invention). Also, pro-Ukr air defence report no single cruise missile shot down today ( https://t.me/info_zp/85798 ) - contrary to usual practice of "all were shot down" in case of big attack. 

    Not clear what it was - fake reports about bombers. show of force or just bobmers lifted from Engels AB as prevention measure agaist pro-Ukr drones attack (that is reported by pro-Ukrainians https://t.me/info_zp/85808 )

And last night it really was massive strike by all sorts of tools - cruise missiles from bombers and Black Sea fleet, Iskanders, Kinzhals, Zircons, Geran' drones etc. - pro-Ukrainians claim it was one of the strongest if not the strongest attacks since the start of "big war". Not clear what were the targets, but some are known to be electric power transformators and Kremenchug dam on Dniper. There are significant electric power cuts in Ukraine through the day.

   CCTV video of Kremenchug dam strikes  - note two missiles missing the dam and exploding in water https://t.me/milinfolive/135241

[PaulFormerlyinSaudi]

Reports indicate the Americans have lifted restrictions on missile strikes on the Russian homeland. We may be seeing a whole new war start. Or not. I am often wrong. 

[Roman Alymov]

Lancet vs. HIMARS launcher somewhere near Gulyaipole https://t.me/boris_rozhin/144724

[seahawk]

6 hours ago, PaulFormerlyinSaudi said:

Reports indicate the Americans have lifted restrictions on missile strikes on the Russian homeland. We may be seeing a whole new war start. Or not. I am often wrong. 

This is insanity. Seems like the left wants global war.