Kiev Is Burning

[Stuart Galbraith]

22 minutes ago, seahawk said:

Genocide: "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group".

Ask Stalin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_of_the_Crimean_Tatars

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_deportation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

[Roman Alymov]

On 10/27/2024 at 7:55 PM, Roman Alymov said:

Strange report by pro-Russians: they claim successful evacuation of an agent, US citizen, who was for 2+ years transferring data about UkrArmy locations, and who have playedf key role in quick liberation of Bogoyavlenka settlement (North of Ugledar) 

https://t.me/TRO_DPR/15148

Seems like if true, there was a Russian mole among US volunteers in Ukraine 

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"Russian security forces have taken US citizen Daniel Martindale, who was helping Russian forces, out of territory under Ukraine’s control, security agencies told Sputnik.
US citizen Martindale, who helped Russian forces plan strikes against Ukrainian forces, is in Moscow and gives his first press conference at Rossiya Segodnya news agency.
“On October 27, 2024, Russian servicemen performing combat missions near the village of Bogoyavlenka took out of the combat zone and delivered to Donetsk a US citizen Daniel Martindale,” the agency's interlocutor said.

The American, who passed valuable information to the Russian military, has been in Ukraine since February 11, 2022, security agencies told Sputnik.
Martindale stated that he is in Moscow voluntarily and showed documents, adding that he initially came to Ukraine from Poland, where he was a missionary, and wanted to get to Donetsk.

He also added that his US passport helped him get through Kiev and Kramatorsk and tanked Russian security services for coordinating the operation of his evacuation and those soldiers who crossed the front lines to evacuate him.

The Kiev Authorities Should Be Tried Like German War Criminals
Martindale stated that the Kiev regime is responsible for kidnapping and should be completely disarmed, while noting that Kiev is responsible for the death, murder, torture, kidnapping of hundreds of thousands of people.
He further noticed that the Kiev authorities should be tried like German war criminals and called for organizing a tribunal against them.

Martindale revealed that Washington is fighting in Ukraine against the whole world and its citizens and many Ukrainians are waiting for liberation by the Russian Army, but they have to hide it.
UKRAINIAN GOVERNMENT IS ‘RESPONSIBLE FOR DEATHS, MURDERS, TORTURE, FOR KIDNAPPING OF HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE’

There is no other option but to completely disarm the Kiev regime, says Daniel Martindale, a US citizen who aided Russian forces with intel gathering in the… https://t.co/5Q41OcBB3f pic.twitter.com/QSYpPrR5wQ

— Sputnik (@SputnikInt) November 2, 2024
He further indicated that Ukrainians suffer from constant betrayal and have to fight for themselves and their safety, since the Kiev regime does not care about the Ukrainian population while Ukrainian soldiers are being sent to certain death
He also added that Ukrainians were worried about split in the Ukrainian Orthodox Church.

How Martindale Helped Russian Forces
The DPR defense headquarters reported in late October that the American played a key role in preparing the assault on the village of Bogoyavlenka in the Ugledar area. It was reported that the issue of granting him political asylum and his accession to Russian citizenship was being resolved.
❗️US CITIZEN HELPED ‘PRESERVE THE LIVES OF RUSSIAN SOLDIERS AND FUTURE RUSSIAN CITIZENS IN UKRAINE’

“For the last two years I've been involved in doing everything I can to preserve the lives of Russian soldiers and future Russian citizens in Ukraine,” says Daniel Martindale, a… https://t.co/argXBid4jy pic.twitter.com/5p3u67E2Ql

— Sputnik (@SputnikInt) November 2, 2024
“At the same time, having proactively established contact with Russian security forces, he for two years reported the coordinates of Ukrainian military facilities,” indicated the security forces. The information received from Martindale was repeatedly used to inflict fire damage on the infrastructure, equipment, personnel of the Ukrainian forces, the law enforcers emphasized.

Martindale said he had been in contact with the Russian side via Telegram messenger, after the Russian forces “threw” him a cell phone via a drone.
Martindale's Family in US
Martindale said he doesn’t want to return to the US and considers Washington his enemy.
⚡️US GOV’T IS MY ENEMY - MARTINDALE WHO AIDED RUSSIA IN DONBASS ON WHY HE REJECTS US RETURN

US citizen Daniel Martindale asserted his reluctance to go back to the US during a press conference with the Russian media.

“I definitely don't want to be in the United States. I… https://t.co/4CnNUpjXf0 pic.twitter.com/r8AO92Yh5P

— Sputnik (@SputnikInt) November 2, 2024
He also stated that a couple of days ago he talked to his relatives and they support him, adding that "if anything does happen to me or my family in the near future, it's not because of any natural causes. It's because the American government probably is very interested at this point in putting pressure on me to reverse my position, to get me to come back to the United States and say that I did everything wrong."

"I think they [his family] are jealous that they didn't have the opportunity to do the same themselves," Martindale said in relation to his going to Donbass.
What Martindale Thinks of His Future
Martindale said he would like to go into farming and have a family in Russia.
“When the war is over and peace is restored, I would like to go back to farming. I would like to start a family in Russia. Perhaps to get involved in the production of farming household equipment for the Russian market, for the international market,” he said at a press conference in the press center of the Rossiya Segodnya media group." ( US Citizen Who Helped Russian Military Plan Attacks on Ukraine Forces Gives First Press Conference )

[Roman Alymov]

Documentary about the work of RusArmy recovery groups who are collecting dead from the "dead zone" https://t.me/VoenCanal/5571

[urbanoid]

Russian 'peace proposals' from March 2022.

'Ooga booga neoconservative warmonger Boris Johnson told to REJECT PEACE'

 

https://x.com/vtchakarova/status/1853457955095527498

 

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Russia’s initial demands have been revealed by Meduza. Russia presented the initial proposal, containing a list of conditions for a ceasefire and peace agreement, to Ukraine’s delegation during the countries’ third round of talks in Belarus on March 7, 2022.

The Ukrainian army must be reduced to a minimum: 50,000 people, including 1,500 officers (five times smaller than Ukraine’s existing army in 2022).

Ukraine must not “develop, produce, invent, or deploy on its territory any missile weapons of any type with a range greater than 250 kilometers.” Russia also reserves the right to ban Ukraine from using “any other types of weapons that may be developed as a result of scientific research” in the future.

Ukraine must “recognize the independence” of the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Luhansk “people’s republics,” including all of the territory within the borders of Ukraine’s Donetsk and Luhansk regions (despite the fact that Russia controlled only part of these territories, as is still the case today). Kherson and Zaporizhia oblast weren't under Russian control at that time.

Ukraine must assume the costs of repairing all of the infrastructure in Donbas that had been destroyed since 2014. Ukraine and its partners must lift all sanctions against Russia and withdraw all lawsuits filed against Russia since 2014.

Ukraine must make Russian an official state language and restore all of the property rights of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate. Ukraine must “repeal of and permanently ban any prohibitions of symbols associated with victory over Nazism”; in other words, it must re-legalize Soviet and communist symbols.

The only things Russia offered Ukraine in this initial proposal were a “ceasefire regime” and “measures to halt combat operations.” There was no mention of any withdrawal of Russian troops from Ukrainian territory; Russia only committed to not occupying territory beyond what it already controlled. #Velsig #geopolitics

https://meduza.io/en/feature/2024/11/04/journalists-obtain-russia-s-initial-proposals-from-march-2022-negotiations-revealing-putin-s-plans-for-post-war-ukraine

Edited November 4 by urbanoid

[Josh]

Given the relative success of the Russian advance at the time, that makes sense. I do not think Russia’s position has softened since. Basically accept being a proxy Russian state we can invade at the drop of a hat, and pick up the tab for everything we destroyed for a decade. We can add onto that random imprisonments, disappearances, and outright murder of anyone pro Ukrainian in any Russian occupied space.

 

The choice for Ukraine was always Bucha or Bakmat. Choose your pain.

Edited November 4 by Josh

[urbanoid]

Their asses have just been handed to them in Hostomel and the northern group was fleeing back to Belarus.

[JWB]

Russians play “human safari” in Kherson by hunting civilians with drones – Washington Post

https://x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1853352892993786263

[Josh]

26 minutes ago, urbanoid said:

Their asses have just been handed to them in Hostomel and the northern group was fleeing back to Belarus.

It was still a relatively high water mark compared to even now. The loss of Kherson was a massive strategic reversal, and the Kharkiv offensive was rather spectacular if not especially strategic or decisive.

Also that was nearly 10,000 armored vehicles and tens of millions of rounds of ammo ago, and several hundred casualties as well. It was a vastly better position to be in. Remember when there was a Black Sea fleet?

Edited November 4 by Josh

[urbanoid]

'Can it please end already so we can return to business as usual?'

[Stuart Galbraith]

How on earth can you enforce neutrality, when Russia doesnt want neutrality, and even Europes most famous neutrals, Sweden and Finland, have ditched it because they cant figure out how to make it work against modern Russia?

Ok, im asking a rhetorical question, not expecting anyone to answer it.

[seahawk]

If the elections are coming up and you know you need BSW to have a tiny chance to stay in power.

[Stuart Galbraith]

So, basically he is talking bollocks for political effect? As a Brit I find that disturbingly easy to understand.

 

[seahawk]

If it is bollocks, personal opinion, the wish of his party or pure calculation for the coming election - probably a bit of everything. But the SPD is still deeply in love with Moscow.

Edited November 5 by seahawk

[X-Files]

I wonder what window he'll suicide from?

 

A top Russian general has been arrested on bribery charges, according to the Tass news agency.

Russian President Vladimir Putin's purge of his top military officials continued with the arrest of Major General Mirza Mirzaev.

The detention of Mirzaev, the deputy chief of logistics of the Russian National Guard, for allegedly trying to extort a contractor marks the latest arrest of a high-ranking military figure and fuels speculation about a crackdown on dissent and corruption within Vladimir Putin's top military brass.

Newsweek reached out to the Russian Defense Ministry for comment via email.

Russia Arrests Top General as Military Purge Ramps Up - Newsweek

[X-Files]

Pure. Comedy. Gold.

A Russian soldier has spoken of how North Korean troops deployed to fight against Ukraine endangered their own unit by shooting in the wrong direction.

The claims in a clip posted on social media comes as Kyiv said that the first North Korean soldiers stationed in Russia's Kursk region had come under fire. Concern grows internationally at the addition of a third party into the conflict.

Russian Soldier Says North Koreans Opened Fire on His Unit - Newsweek

 

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3 hours ago, urbanoid said:

'Can it please end already so we can return to business as usual?'

I think the vast majority of people on all sides wish for that... Just not all of the key players (i.e. politicians *spits on the floor).

[ink]

Haven't had time to follow things closely, so could someone explain how this:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c14le0p4310o

fits with the earlier story of 40 North Koreans being killed in an engagement. I thought the first clash with NK troops had already taken place.

[Stefan Kotsch]

A lot is said and written.
(among other things, the North Koreans are now said to have become addicted to porn... 🙃)

So we wait and see what will happen. That is still being clarified.

Edited November 6 by Stefan Kotsch

[Stuart Galbraith]

For all the incredulity with the media reporting over 10000 troops being sent, there are now already 7000 sat around the Ukrainians.

[seahawk]

By the end of January we can close this thread, as Trump will have solved to conflict.

[Stuart Galbraith]

Within 24 hours I think? Lets be generous, the war will obviously be over by the end of the week.

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38 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Within 24 hours I think? Lets be generous, the war will obviously be over by the end of the week.

I sure as shit hope so.

 

EDIT: and if Trump ends or helps end the war, he should immediately be handed a Nobel Peace Prize. Much as I hate most of what he stands for.

Edited November 6 by ink
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[Stuart Galbraith]

As said before, the end of this war will just be the preamble for the next war. And the next one. And the next one. We have sogot used to the idea of peace at any price. But what happens when that price isnt paid for us but by our friends? And what happens when our friends are digested and the crocodile wants to eat us next?

'Each one hopes that if he feeds the crocodile enough, the crocodile will eat him last. All of them hope that the storm will pass before their turn comes to be devoured. But I fear greatly that the storm will not pass. It will rage and it will roar ever more loudly, ever more widely.'

Our inability to learn the lessons of the past when they are so clearly spoken is, to say the least, dispiriting.

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24 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

As said before, the end of this war will just be the preamble for the next war. 

Ain't that always the way.

[Stuart Galbraith]

No, not always. We had a chance to stop Russian aggression here, stone dead. And we utterly fumbled it, just as we did in Austria, Czechoslovakia and Poland.