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10 minutes ago, Roman Alymov said:

  Interestingly, pro-Russians have found 116 civilians in Ugledar after liberating it - while pro-Ukrainians have claimed there were only 107 left. It means some people were HIDING from pro-Ukrainians in the city that was frontline for 2+ years....

https://t.me/boris_rozhin/139598

Well, I don't think counting civilians has been the biggest concern of the Ukrainian troops in Ugledar in recent days. Maybe the numbers were not exact.

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3 minutes ago, mandeb48 said:

Well, I don't think counting civilians has been the biggest concern of the Ukrainian troops in Ugledar in recent days. Maybe the numbers were not exact.

They were occuping Ugledar for 10 years before that, including years of "Minsk agreements" when it was completely safe for them to do anything they want to. But, taking into account pro-Ukrainains do not even know how many people live in part of Ukraine they control (since the only census in Ukraine was conducted in 2001 - having accurate data are not convenient for Ukr Gov for plenty of reasons from better oppotunity for elections manipulations to stealing all sorts of funds) - quite possibly they were not even interested in having exact numbers for Ugledar. Still, they are usually inflating population numbers, not deflating them.

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14 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

No, I want to believe the truth. If people want to illustrate this guy has got it hopelessly wrong, which is of course possible, then it doesnt seem unreasonable, since everyone is disagreeing, to see some drone footage of this Russian victory over the Ukrainians. Im sure the Russians have no problem providing any, since its such a good news story. That they fabricated at least some of that evidence to me has my spidey sense tingling.

If there isnt any available, it to me suggest that yes, the balance of truth is probably with the Ukrainians. And ill retain that position till someone slaps some evidence on the table, whereupon Ill change my mind.

Watch the mans channel. If anything he was critical of Kursk, worried about its future, and critical of other Ukrainian positions. But if you want to take against him based on your smartarse opinion, there is nothing I can do for you.

While I agree that videos would be best evidence, there are UKR ”sources” of 72nd retreat like this that seem to confirm that retreat was not that organized.

 


 

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The Times article Conscription tactics get dirty as war-weary Ukrainians defy draft (thetimes.com)

It is paywalled, so below id back-translation from Russian ( Методы мобилизации на Украине становятся все более грязными, а уставшие от войны украинцы игнорируют призыв (The Times, Великобритания) | 04.10.2024, ИноСМИ (inosmi.ru) )

"Mobilization methods in Ukraine are becoming increasingly dirty, and Ukrainians tired of the war ignore the call
The Times: Ukraine has a desperate situation with mobilization
Ukrainian police officers check the documents of a man, looking for those who evade mobilization - InoSMI, 1920, 04.10.2024
© AP Photo / Efrem Lukatsky


Samuel Lovett
Having received an order to additionally mobilize 200,000 people, the recruiters of the Ukrainian army are erecting checkpoints, grabbing people on the streets and ignoring deferrals from conscription.

It has been more than a month since the police came to Sasha's Odessa apartment and warned that he would be fined if he did not renew his identity documents. The police officers added that the issue can be easily resolved by going to the local recruiting office for a minute.
 
Sasha was calm. He has a chronic kidney disease, which gives him an official exemption from military service. That's why he got into the car with the police and didn't come back.
"The next day, he called from someone else's phone and said that he was at a training base in Kiev," said Sasha's neighbor Gennady. "He was deceived."
Such methods are widespread in Odessa. In an attempt to mobilize a new generation of soldiers amid growing war fatigue, the authorities are increasingly resorting to deception, coercion and the use of force.
On Thursday, during a trip to Kiev, the new head of NATO, Mark Rutte, told President Zelensky that the goal of the alliance was to ensure that Ukraine prevailed. "This is a priority and an honor for me," Rutte said.

 But for Ukraine, everything is different, because time is not on its side. The country has conscripted approximately one million people into active military service, and most of them have been continuously involved in hostilities since the beginning of the armed conflict. The military hopes to recruit another 200,000 people by the end of the year, said Roman Kostenko, secretary of the parliamentary Committee on National Defense. According to NATO, Russia recruits about 30,000 people every month, but suffers "very heavy" losses.
It is extremely necessary to recruit 200,000 people, but it is becoming increasingly difficult to do so.
In Odessa, where almost a million people live, one employee of the local military enlistment office said that his department was completely not fulfilling the plan. "We don't even get 20 percent of the required number," he said, adding that on some days they hand over 100 summonses, but only a few come. "The Odessa region is one of the worst on the list," said this employee.
He painted a grim picture of corruption, mismanagement and frustration in his department, saying that because of this, "it is impossible to fulfill the tasks set." According to him, colleagues take bribes worth thousands of pounds for forgery of documents on postponement, and due to staff shortages, employees are forced to simultaneously perform a variety of duties, from paperwork to patrolling the streets. And the authorities threaten to send them to the front if they do not fulfill the plan.
On some days, more than half of the men who come on the agenda have diseases that make them impossible to enlist in the army, this employee added. This is tuberculosis, hepatitis or AIDS. "We bring a large number of people for medical examination, and then it turns out that they are really sick," he said.

 Almost daily, there are reports and videos of people being stopped on the streets, pushed into buses without numbers and taken to the central city recruitment center, where they are checked for their suitability for mobilization.
Most of the detainees are men between the ages of 25 and 60 who have not registered in the electronic database of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and have not provided information about themselves. This requirement was legalized in May in an attempt to identify all conscripted men in Ukraine.
Sometimes it comes to a fight. In June, the ambulance staff clashed with the military when their colleague went to the recruiting office to extend the documents on the postponement, but he was not allowed to leave. In other cases, locals (i think, oroginay it was "local women" - RA) get into a fight with officers when the military tries to detain men.
One Telegram group shares up-to-date information about the location of patrol "draft teams" and their check points. This group consists of almost 150,000 people, some say that it is led from Russia.
Compared to the beginning of the conflict, significant changes have taken place, because then hundreds of thousands of people came to the recruiting stations.
Among them was 47-year-old Gennady. "I tried to volunteer, but they told me I wasn't needed. And now I don't want to fight," he said. – Our state does not support soldiers. They don't have the necessary equipment, and when a person gets injured, they forget about him."
An employee of the military enlistment office said that in such an environment, his colleagues begin to illegally and forcibly detain men on the streets, including those who have a postponement. For example, these are people whose brothers or fathers have already died at the front.
"Such incidents damage the image of the entire organization, but that's exactly the way things are, because we are ordered to give results, to act effectively," he said.
Critics condemn such "Soviet" tactics, calling them counterproductive. But Tim Willasey-Wilsey, who lectures on defense and security at King's College London, said: "The liberal in all of us wants to say that this is doomed to fail. On the other hand, I recently talked with a Ukrainian friend whose husband has been at the front since 2022. She said it was a shame when men of military age hid from mobilization. We need to signal to the military that you take this seriously and recruit more people to fight. The first cohort of soldiers deserved to be replaced."
Like other rich cities, Odessa gave fewer men to the front at the beginning of hostilities because they had the opportunity to escape or pay for a delay. Most of the recruits are from rural areas, where men do not have such opportunities and means to hide.
Last year, the former head of the Odessa territorial recruitment center, Yevgeny Borisov, was accused of taking bribes worth more than five million dollars for approving draft deferrals. He helped thousands of men evade conscription.
"It was done massively, as if in bulk," said one Odessa lawyer involved in this investigation. – Everyone in the country knew that it was easier to evade the draft here. Maybe it is for these reasons that the authorities are now tightening the screws."
He supports the call, but says the authorities need to think about a different approach. "When you are at the front and you are performing a combat mission that is dangerous, you should be paid more. But this is not the case," the lawyer said. "And when a person gets injured, they pay him money that doesn't even cover the treatment."
An officer from the recruitment center called on NATO to intervene and check the recruitment process in Ukraine. He also said that part of the money transferred by the Western allies should be spent on increasing the monetary allowance of military personnel.
"If nothing changes," he added, "we'll just be stuck in this hopeless situation."

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On 5/11/2023 at 7:15 PM, Roman Alymov said:

I do not think Zelensky (and Ukrainian officials in general) have any say on when to start the offensive. All this rethoric about "offensive not ready" is probably to distract Russian command (and allow pro-Western officials in Russia to delay mobilization efforts).

    More interesting is why StormShadow decision was published today, without any obvious link to events on the ground to achieve extra media effect. Can't rule out it is to distract public attention from strange situation with Ukr Army top command (both Zaluzhny and Syrsky repirtedly gone off radar after major strike on Chasov Yar where, as believed, some high-ranked officers and French TV correspondent were killed). Who knows....

Interesting confirmation from pro-Ukr side that Zaluzhny was in fact injured in 2023 - reportedly, guided shell struck the shelter he was in minutes after phone call to Zaluzhny from Zelensky's administration 

https://t.me/boris_rozhin/139685

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"Polish Defense Minister Władysław Kosinyak-Kamysh says 300 people want to join the Ukrainian Legion." ( https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjG9ojX9PSIAxWkGhAIHUM2CDUQFnoECBMQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fcensor.net%2Fen%2Fnews%2F3513278%2Fit_became_known_how_many_ukrainians_want_to_join_the_ukrainian_legion&usg=AOvVaw02jsDvhNegVwaEytqSLCyH&opi=89978449 )

 For comparison "It is estimated that there are about 300–400,000 Ukrainian men living in Poland." ( https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjG9ojX9PSIAxWkGhAIHUM2CDUQFnoECCUQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FUkrainians_in_Poland&usg=AOvVaw0CLm8klUe9xLLrBO6aqzpn&opi=89978449 )

   Ironically, one standup commedian few years back have produced a comedy after "300 Spartans"

 

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It is all to keep the s´people in the West in the dark. Most people, who identify as Ukrainian, have already fled to the West and enjoy their social security payments and engage in criminal activities like child pornography.

Luckily people in the West wake up and a huge crowd assembled in Berlin and demanded an end of Ukrainian immigration and the support for the regime there.

https://www.nd-aktuell.de/artikel/1185581.initiative-nie-wieder-krieg-friedensdemo-am-oktober-welt-ohne-krieg-moeglich.html

No more war! Peace with Russia!

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On 10/2/2024 at 2:47 PM, Stuart Galbraith said:

The big tactical envelopment failed to come off, just as you predicted. However to the north there was a smaller pocket they did successfully achieve, and managed to kettle a number (unspecified) of members of a Russian Naval Infantry unit. Last I heard the Ukrainians were sitting on their heels, himarsing repeated relief column trying to break through. AFAIK they are still surrounded, the Ukrainians waiting them out.

Could you please indicate on this map ( or other map) where is this smaller poclet located, please?

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Somebody here was asking for Siebel ferry....  Seems like pro-Ukrainian SOF (or, rather, their British instructors) were inspired by the idea when creating this improvised combination of tugboat and two barges that was supposed to take landing party with some armor vehicles across Dniper

https://t.me/NeoficialniyBeZsonoV/40278

P.S. Another video shows this ferry drifting downstream in flames https://t.me/boris_rozhin/139692

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On 9/30/2024 at 1:57 PM, sunday said:

A proto-industrial power able to build dreadnoughts, so not so backwards.

Russian Navy used lots of foreign expertise for both overall design of its warships, and sub-components, so they did not have similar completely indigenous capability with high-tech weapons of the time as Germany, Britain, France or US. Imperial Russian Navy was in similar place as for example Indian Navy today, substantial amount of indigenous work, but still partly depending from exported systems and occasionally buying ships built abroad.  

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Seems like big S-70 drone was intercepted above pro-Ukr-occupied territory by Russian fighter, at very close distance (probably, after attempts to restore control of the drone)

https://t.me/romanov_92/45356

   Interesting that it is probably the first confirmation of this drones used in war zone (before that, it was only rumors and statements) and rare case of RusAF fighter operating above enemy-controlled territory (in this case Konstantinovka, important town)

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11 minutes ago, RETAC21 said:

Wondering what happened here. A Russian fighter downs a Russian Su-25:

 

Video of the plane falling - it is definitely not Su-25 (or any other known RusAF warplane). It is S-70 or something Iranian (they have reverse-engeneered US drones, so who knows - may be they would like field tests)

https://t.me/boris_rozhin/139752

P.S The plane falling is missing tall "triangle" of S-70

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So probably Iranian.....

 

Edited by Roman Alymov
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15 minutes ago, RETAC21 said:

Thanks, that makes sense

Still, i do not know what drone got clear "V-shape", without tail triangle. May be it was "new S-70" with next generation engine with "flat exhaust" and another shape of the tail part. Or something completely different. Or even not Russian or Iranian at all (because it is strange for both Russian and Iranian drones to fly in daytime missing the advantages of stealth shape as the trace is clearly visible). May be we have some sort of U2-style incident and the drone from "third country" got Russian markings to avoid accusations. Or may be the drone was tested somewhere deep inside Russia and lost control - and shot down only after it became apparent it is not possible to return it and it is high time to shoot it down to avoid it falling into enemy hands intact - it may explain daytime flight. Who knows....

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On 10/3/2024 at 10:09 AM, MiGG0 said:

Yeah and this"honest" channel says totally opposite (for short 870 pows capture and huge losses to units that tried to leave. To be honest I believe this as RUS did have firecontrol very long to remaining supply route):

Russian MoD claimed 44 POWs captured in Vuhledar.  I am sure they would flaunt it quite a bit if they had captured hundreds. Final collapse of defences in Vuhledar seem to have been reasonably quick, so it's probable some got left behind.

Of course with recent string of incidents where Russians appear to execute surrendered Ukrainians, unclear how many actually got to the POW camp...

 

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