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17 minutes ago, mkenny said:

The Ukrainians are only 5 miles further forward at Robotyne compared to how far they got on day 1. The total distance  of that 'advance' in the last 110 days is...........9 miles!

If this was Normandy the advance would have moved from the beaches to the outskirts of Caen.

Yeah, but the Ukrainians don't have Typhoons...

This was interesting..

 

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3 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Yeah, but the Ukrainians don't have Typhoons...

This was interesting..

 

Its all over the Russian 'social media' with dozens of  films from all angles.  To try and claim its being 'kept secret' is risible. 

 

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1 hour ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Not on state media is strongly telling you something  though, isn't it?

Have you seen my post above with TASS  video of HQ damage? Isn't it not state media enough?

    What "official media" are really not saying is the fact the strike was by NATO missiles. The reason is simple - it will harm prospect os negotiations with West out elite is dreaming about. By the way, surprisingly, one of the hosts on "Soloviev Live" channel (of "Soloviev-the-Kremlin-propagandist" repeatedly mentioned here) is openly speaking about this party existence and their dreams

https://t.me/SolovievLive/210835

"The attack on Sevastopol is a blow to a huge part of the Russian elite, which really set itself up to freeze the conflict in the autumn of this year. It was in the air. For many, this goal seemed almost achieved."

  Taking into account thsi guys always follow "party line" with all its twists and turns, it is indicative.

 

 

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Surprisingly, recently two Leopard tanks were scored on Svatovo direction ("Eastern front" or "Northern front")

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video Добивание «Ланцетом» танка Leopard 2A6, брошенного противником в ходе неудачной атаки ВСУ под Сватово-Кременной. | Labirint Z | Дзен (dzen.ru)

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16 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

It amazes me how little you guys remember of your own history, not least Sevastpol fell, the Black Sea fleet was destroyed, and the Ottomans were saved. Yes, a lot of good British French and Ottoman soldiers died. But it put Russian territorial ambitions back several decades, and a good job for all that.

 

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23 minutes ago, Perun said:

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Ever heard of the Charge of the Heavy Brigade Perun? No of course not. It got washed out by what happened the day after.

https://www.warhistoryonline.com/instant-articles/battle-of-balaclava.html

There was a lot Britain got wrong in that war. But along with the French we did win, largely because were the least incompetent on the battlefield. Which considering how bad Raglan and Lucan were is going some.

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Closer to the truth if you said they were burned out Empires, grasping at glory, run into the ground by the wholly incompetent. :)

Claim on CNN, im in no position to verify it but I thought I would pass it along. The Ukrainians are claiming the attack was carefully timed to occur at the same time as a meeting in the Black Sea Headquarters. The implication is the death toll is considerable.

I guess we will discover in due course. Im sure everyone is already writing it off 'Because the Ukrainians always lie', etc etc etc.

Posted
13 hours ago, Roman Alymov said:

This HQ is historic administrative building, it is not supposed to be used in time of war at all. The problem is, there is no war declared, more over - everything is functioning in peacetime mode.

Historic? 

"NEW: Among severely wounded in Ukrainian attack on Black Sea Fleet HQ in Sevastopol — Col. Gen. Alexander Romanchuk and Lt. Gen. Oleg Tsekov, Ukrainian intelligence chief Kyrylo Budanov tells @VOAnews. He confirms at least 9 dead and 16 injured among RUS military personnel."

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Another HQ, another strike:

 

"Ukrainian Sources: The HQ for the Russian 58th Combined Arms Army was destroyed in #Melitopol by a HIMARS GMLRS strike wounding its commander, possibly Lieutenant General Denis Lyamin, and killing or injuring other high-ranking staff.

"The other day, the SBU and ZSU struck a secret Rashist base in temporarily occupied Melitopol.

Initially, the Security Service (GUR) discovered that the occupiers had organized their headquarters at a local motor factory. The information was passed on to the military, and then together with them, they worked on the goal.

As a result of the rocket attack, the commander of the 58th army of the Russian Federation, which is fighting in the #Zaporizhia AO, as well as their chief of staff, were wounded.

In addition to the Rashist leaders, several dozen enemy officers were injured. About ten of them have definitely already gone to the concert in Kobzon (died)."

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1 hour ago, Markus Becker said:

Historic? 

"NEW: Among severely wounded in Ukrainian attack on Black Sea Fleet HQ in Sevastopol — Col. Gen. Alexander Romanchuk and Lt. Gen. Oleg Tsekov, Ukrainian intelligence chief Kyrylo Budanov tells @VOAnews. He confirms at least 9 dead and 16 injured among RUS military personnel."

Since when "Ukrainian intelligence chief" (famous for his promises to take Crimea last Spring etc.) speaking to VOA is reliable source? Let's wait and see, currently even most hardline pro-Russian TG channels (who are newer shy to disclose another big brass mistake) are not reporting any massive human loss (actually, none at all).

   Re "historic building" - see my post above, it is official name of the building. 

By the way. couple of days ago hotel in Cherkassy accomodating foreign military instructors was hit, and pro-Russians believe it caused 20-30 foreigners killed or wounded. Official pro-Ukr video shows person of paramilitary look carryed out of ruins

https://t.me/info_zp/46977

What pro-Russians are saying about it:

"In the village of Orshanets near Cherkassy, there is a training center based on the border service training center. The entrance to the village itself is closed to everyone. Any visitors are checked by the military police at checkpoints and turned back.

Every day it was used to train Nazis by foreigners. Day and night at the training ground, in addition to the shooting, preparations were underway for work from large-caliber guns and drones. The residents of the region noted an increase in the number of foreign instructors and mercenaries on the eve of the so-called "counteroffensive".

As reported from the field, the blow fell on the Central Hotel and a restaurant with the same name. They tried not to settle civilians there and not to serve them. There were always a lot of new passenger cars with black license plates near the hotel. (black license plate in both Russia and Ukraine are military ones - RA)

After the strike, the area was cordoned off for three blocks, no one is allowed even to work in this perimeter. Everything is checked when leaving this zone, up to phones with "prohibited" content.

According to preliminary information, the number of KIA may be about three dozen. About 20 people are presumably under the rubble." (https://t.me/boris_rozhin/98145 )

 

Posted
4 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Ever heard of the Charge of the Heavy Brigade Perun? No of course not. It got washed out by what happened the day after.

https://www.warhistoryonline.com/instant-articles/battle-of-balaclava.html

There was a lot Britain got wrong in that war. But along with the French we did win, largely because were the least incompetent on the battlefield. Which considering how bad Raglan and Lucan were is going some.

 It was The French Army that won that war.  When France was defeated by Prussia in 1870 The Russians renounced the 1856 Peace Treaty and re-established a fleet in The Black Sea. Bereft of the earlier French support  (i.e an Army) Britain was powerless and could not  respond.  

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For all the talk about "Russians are targeting hospitals", I'm still kinda startled that their milbloggers are not just admitting it, but saying it's okay because Ukrainians are accepting civilian casualities in their attacks after all.

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About the strike of the Russian Armed Forces on a military hospital in Kremenchug

On September 22, 2023, Russian troops launched a strike on Kremenchug. While the Ukrainian authorities urged citizens not to approach the impact site, chats were talking about what had landed at the amusement park. The Ferris wheel was indeed located nearby, but the area was hit by a shock wave.

At the address Gogol Street 2, open sources indicate a certain oncology clinic, which was deployed on the basis of a former military hospital and closed in 2008. Back in 2014-2015, the hospital was put in order, in 2016 the bunker and underground communications were updated, and photographs from 2018 quietly revealed military equipment on the territory.

Members of the Ukrainian formations underwent recovery and rehabilitation in the hospital before returning to the front. It flew along them. To say that this is “the answer for Sevastopol” is somewhat incorrect, because military hospitals and clinics are no less important targets than headquarters and warehouses.

Exactly a year ago, we raised the topic of the justification of attacks on hospitals in Nikolaev and the Kharkov region: such actions sharply reduce the ability of the Ukrainian Armed Forces to restore combat effectiveness. There is no need to talk about any kind of mental anguish or conventions today: Ukrainians do not care at all about the death of the civilian population of Russia, and human rights activists work only for the benefit of Ukrainian propaganda, in every possible way forgiving them what is unforgivable to us.

I wonder how many adherents of the “we are not like that” ideology remain among Russians? Surely someone still thinks that we should play knighthood. Or not?

(Autotranslated from Rybar.)

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Posted
26 minutes ago, mkenny said:

 It was The French Army that won that war.  When France was defeated by Prussia in 1870 The Russians renounced the 1856 Peace Treaty and re-established a fleet in The Black Sea. Bereft of the earlier French support  (i.e an Army) Britain was powerless and could not  respond.  

Not saying at any point it was not. Im just saying that, badly led though the British Army was at the time, it was still streets ahead of the Russian Army.

So, quite why anyone is referencing the Crimean war as a point of hope for Russia, which is the whole reason why we got onto this discussion, is quite beyond me.

Posted
1 hour ago, Roman Alymov said:

Since when "Ukrainian intelligence chief" (famous for his promises to take Crimea last Spring etc.) speaking to VOA is reliable source? 

  

 is this it? 

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, mkenny said:

 It was The French Army that won that war.  When France was defeated by Prussia in 1870 The Russians renounced the 1856 Peace Treaty and re-established a fleet in The Black Sea. Bereft of the earlier French support  (i.e an Army) Britain was powerless and could not  respond.  

Although, when the Russians again threatened Istanbul in 1876, it was the British sending a fleet that got them to back down.

Posted
18 minutes ago, ink said:

Although, when the Russians again threatened Istanbul in 1876, it was the British sending a fleet that got them to back down.

and in 1915, as a Russian Ally, a 'British Fleet' was handed its arse by 'Istanbul.

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