Kiev Is Burning

[Dark_Falcon]

17 hours ago, bojan said:

Do you really believe in the crap written there? If not, why post it?

Agreed. The odds that Russia runs out of rifles in this war is too low to be meaningfully calculated.

[glenn239]

10 hours ago, ink said:

Yikes! Didn't see that coming:

Poland to stop supplying weapons to Ukraine over grain row

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66873495

Still, I bet it's cleared up in the next day or two like last time.

 

Really, it's Ukraine's fault for trusting Poland in the first place.

I see that the Poles have clarified to say that "everything agreed" will be delivered, but that's a drop in the bucket and the war will continue long afterwards.

Edited September 21, 2023 by glenn239

[JWB]

1 hour ago, Dark_Falcon said:

.... Russia runs out of rifles ........

Not run out. Can't get stuff forward because of corruption and failed logistics.

[Stuart Galbraith]

 

[Markus Becker]

 

Best Korea to the rescue? 

https://x.com/jayinkyiv/status/1704451010591121599?s=46&t=wWd6ltvssh4tJG_Vm2jjAA

 

[Stuart Galbraith]

Well with his recent record, who can be anything but convinced?

 

[R011]

9 hours ago, ink said:

I knew it would be fixed but I didn't expect it to happen this quickly!

A principled stand to help poor beleagured Polish farmers plays much better in teh election campaign than "we've run out of old stuff to send".

Edited September 21, 2023 by R011

[crazyinsane105]

Ukraine's Neptun anti-ship missile has been in the news a lot this month. Now there is another interesting story involving it. As it turned out, at the time of the invasion of the Russian army in 2023, the missile had not yet passed all the tests. Therefore, the Ukrainian Navy tested it on real targets.

Here's What We Know

With such a statement was made by the commander of the Ukrainian Navy Oleksiy Neizhpapa. His words are quoted by The Wall Street Journal. Vice Admiral claims that because of the invasion of the Russian Federation missile "Neptune" had to be tested on real targets.

The first target was the frigate Admiral Essen. The ship was equipped with electronic warfare systems that worked effectively and prevented the missiles from striking accurately. Nevertheless, the ship sustained damage.

[ink]

8 hours ago, R011 said:

A principled stand to help poor beleagured Polish farmers plays much better in teh election campaign than "we've run out of old stuff to send".

A more cynical view than even I'm accustomed to holding. Not that I reckon you're wide of the mark - probably quite the opposite.

[Stuart Galbraith]

Pretty sure I did this on World of Tanks...

https://x.com/DefenceU/status/1704586140764839962?s=20

[BansheeOne]

1 hour ago, ink said:

A more cynical view than even I'm accustomed to holding. Not that I reckon you're wide of the mark - probably quite the opposite.

That's not cynical, just common sense. At election time, governments will naturally play to domestic over international interests. Poland is hardly unique in that - Gerhard Schröder campaigning on opposition to intervention in Iraq springs to mind, and the Polish antics are just a take on the current Republican "America before Ukraine!" from the government side - though admittedly populist parties like the PiS are more prone to building up foreign enemies to present themselves as protectors of the fatherland.

Last time around they did that with the attempt to outlaw references to possible Polish complicity in the Holocaust, to the point it caused a diplomatic row with Israel rather than Germany, against which it was aimed. This time it has been German reparations for WW II, and linking the election with a referendum against supposedly EU-enforced immigration à la Orban; their initial presentation of the national continuation of the import ban on Ukrainian grain after it expired at the EU level was also "we'll do this no matter what Berlin and Brussels say!" (who said ... nothing).

The escalation against Ukraine itself is probably in part due to nervousness after the recent allegations that Polish embassies issued Schengen work visa to Africans and Asians for bribes, threatening to blow up their anti-immigration selling point. The immediate trigger may however have been Zelensky's UN speech in which he not only critiziced the Eastern European countries enacting national import bans on Ukrainian grain, without naming them, but also expressively lauded Germany supported a permanent German UNSC seat. Which was likely more than the PiS could take. 😁

Hence everyone flipping their lid, Prime Minister Morawieczki going "no more weapons for Ukraine!", and President Duda likening them to a drowning man threatening to drag his rescuers down with him, right before backpedaling that the "no more weapons" thing had been grossly misunderstood. That's however another data point why all the talk of Poland supposedly being built up to become a security exporter in Eastern Europe is of dubious credibility; at least under the PiS, they'll mostly keep exporting their inner insecurity.

[mandeb48]

trench war 2023 

https://lostarmour.info/news/fpv_23_09_21_08-21_sudoplatov      +18

Updates on the map War  September 17-20:

https://t.me/creamy_caprice/2225

 

 

[Stuart Galbraith]

Just when you think the war has reached peak stupid...

 

[Stuart Galbraith]

Oh, and some naughty  boy has blown up the Black Sea fleet headquarters.

 

[Stuart Galbraith]

Shame, it looked like a really nice gaff.

[Roman Alymov]

7 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Shame, it looked like a really nice gaff.

Incoming missiles and AD fire caught on camera of foreign journalist in Sevastopol. Тote locals staying calm  - reminding the scenes of Crimea War of XIX century.

https://t.me/milinfolive/106866

[Stuart Galbraith]

Yeah. Remember how that one went?

 

[crazyinsane105]

34 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Just when you think the war has reached peak stupid...

 

They run out of AKs already that they can’t spare any for their dance team 😂

[Roman Alymov]

15 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Yeah. Remember how that one went?

Yes, it ended up with Brtitish war cemeteries still staying on Russian hills.

Graves of Britain’s Crimean War dead are desecrated, exploited and now forgotten (thetimes.co.uk)

Edited September 22, 2023 by Roman Alymov

[bojan]

55 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Just when you think the war has reached peak stupid...

 

Again you open mouth about things you have no clue. It is ballet about WW2, done since 1942, based on siege of Leningrad (originated there, first time performed in 1943).

[Stuart Galbraith]

It amazes me how little you guys remember of your own history, not least Sevastpol fell, the Black Sea fleet was destroyed, and the Ottomans were saved. Yes, a lot of good British French and Ottoman soldiers died. But it put Russian territorial ambitions back several decades, and a good job for all that.

 

[bojan]

1 minute ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

...and the Ottomans were saved.

You are saying like that was a good thing.

Edited September 22, 2023 by bojan

[Roman Alymov]

Unknown PGM (probably Tornado-S) vs. pro-Ukr temporary base near Vremeevsky ledge

https://t.me/NeoficialniyBeZsonoV/29443

[Roman Alymov]

6 minutes ago, bojan said:

You are saying like that was a good thing.

It is not good thing or bad thing - it is old good British Doublethink   Not to mention rivers of blood shed by Ottomans in Balkans, Greece and other places while they "were saved" for several decades, not to mention Armenians - finally it ended up with Britons (well, of colonial origin, but still Britons back then)  fighting "good Ottoman soldiers", mostly in vain by the way....

[seahawk]

Britan is deeply russophobe for centuries now.