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Just now, Stuart Galbraith said:

Anyway, why are Russians complaining about it? They could get 2 for the price of 1.

      Russians are complaining about West pushing Russians (as most of citizens of Ukraine are just Russians who happened on wrong side of artificial administrative border when local Communist Party bosses "privatized" their parts) into meatgrinder. It is civil war with strong foreign involvement  - as was previous one 100+ years ago. It is not the first time we see British and French tanks in steppes of South Russia....

"The capture of tanks near Kakhovka", Ivan Vladimirov, 1927

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13 minutes ago, Roman Alymov said:

      Russians are complaining about West pushing Russians (as most of citizens of Ukraine are just Russians who happened on wrong side of artificial administrative border when local Communist Party bosses "privatized" their parts) into meatgrinder. It is civil war with strong foreign involvement  - as was previous one 100+ years ago. It is not the first time we see British and French tanks in steppes of South Russia....

"The capture of tanks near Kakhovka", Ivan Vladimirov, 1927

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Which is some trick, convincing you to invade a country you didnt want to. How did we manage that, when we cant even get you to hand over the people who shot down MH17 and the Salisbury poisoners?

Ah, must be Uri Gellar, its clearly the only explanation...

Right back at you old chap, this isnt the first time we have seen Russian tanks crush a European country beneath its tracks for wholly questionable reasons. Happily the old methods dont work as well as they used to.

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21 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Which is some trick, convincing you to invade a country you didnt want to. How did we manage that, when we cant even get you to hand over the people who shot down MH17 and the Salisbury poisoners?

Let me remind you Ukraine is part of Russia. Re MH17 and Salisbury  - ask your Gov who is creating this stories for you to consume,

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2 hours ago, Roman Alymov said:

Let me remind you Ukraine is part of Russia. Re MH17 and Salisbury  - ask your Gov who is creating this stories for you to consume,

I ask who supplied the missiles and pressed the button. The rest as always is just the usual windowdressing.

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17 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

I ask who supplied the missiles and pressed the button. The rest as always is just the usual windowdressing.

Trigger-happy Ukr AD crew, the same as with Russian Tu-154 years before that over Black Sea. No need to debate that, all was said years ago.

    Fresh story for you. No idea if it is true or just another British media speculation, but the very fact of them now publishing this sort of story is telling

"BRIT 'KILLED BRIT' British volunteer in Ukraine was tortured and killed by fellow Brit fighter, investigators fear
Jerome Starkey
Published: 23:12, 17 Sep 2023Updated: 23:24, 17 Sep 2023

A BRITISH volunteer in Ukraine was tortured and killed by a another Brit, investigators fear.

Jordan Chadwick, 31, was found dead in a body of water with his hands tied behind his back in June. Jordan Chadwick, a British volunteer in Ukraine, was tortured and killed by another Brit, investigators fear

The former Scots Guard served in a shadowy unit called 50/50 — attached to Ukraine’s GUR military intelligence. His terrified comrades have named another British fighter as a prime suspect. They claim Chadwick, from Burnley, was waterboarded and the water in his lungs was not the same as where he was found in Kramatorsk, around 20 miles from the Bakhmut front line.

His body was brought home last month and an inquest is due to be held next year. It comes as Ukrainian police found a second Brit’s body, believed to be Daniel Burke, 36. The former paratrooper, from Manchester, went missing last month.

He is believed to have been shot and buried in a shallow grave outside Zaporizhzhia."https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/23994540/british-volunteer-jordan-chadwick-murdered-ukraine-brit-fighter/ )

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4 hours ago, Roman Alymov said:

Let me remind you Ukraine is part of Russia.

According to the Russian-Ukrainian border treaty of 2003, this is not the case. Putin himself signed it.

http://www.kremlin.ru/supplement/1653

So you cannot acquire ownership of stolen goods. Russia is the posessor, but not the owner.

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Key Takeaways:

Ukrainian forces liberated Klishchiivka, south of Bakhmut, on September 17 and continued successful offensive operations elsewhere in the Bakhmut direction.

Russian forces launched another series of Shahed-131/136 drone and cruise missile strikes at southern Ukraine on the night of September 16-17.

North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un concluded his trip to Russia on September 17 and received several pieces of military technical equipment from the governor of Primorsky Krai.

The Russian Ministry of Defense’s (MoD) effort to subsume the Wagner Group is prompting Russian officials to more openly back military juntas in West Africa.

Prolonged concern about Chechen Republic Head Ramzan Kadyrov’s health in the Russian information space highlights Russian President Vladimir Putin’s dependence on Kadyrov for continued stability in Chechnya.

Russian forces conducted offensive operations along the Kupyansk-Svatove-Kreminna line, near Bakhmut, along the Avdiivka-Donetsk City line, and in the Donetsk-Zaporizhia Oblast area on September 17 and advanced in some areas. 

Ukrainian forces also continued counteroffensive operations in western Zaporizhia Oblast.

Recent Russian claims that small contingents of former Wagner Group personnel are returning to fight in Ukraine do not indicate that a fully reconstituted Wagner fighting force will return to Ukraine anytime soon if ever.

Russian occupation administrations continue to forcibly deport Ukrainian children to Russia and erase Ukrainian cultural identity.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-september-17-2023

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1 hour ago, Stefan Kotsch said:

According to the Russian-Ukrainian border treaty of 2003, this is not the case. Putin himself signed it.

http://www.kremlin.ru/supplement/1653

So you cannot acquire ownership of stolen goods. Russia is the posessor, but not the owner.

So what it was "signed by Putin"? Just another politician, acting in own interests (or, rather, in "collective Putin" ones). It can't change history. 

    There is a lot of cases in history Russian elites were signing anti-Russian papers. Who cares now (except those who are left with this memories as reminder of their foemer glory)

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7 hours ago, Rob Veenendaal said:

It is also stated in the replies that this new body armour is specifically for women because they have different chest shape. It has nothing to do with pregnancy.

It's no good. Facts don't matter to him. The fact that there are numerous genuine reports and interviews on the web about the design of body armour for female soldiers, nothing to do with pregnancy, doesn't matter to him. He will continue to spout nonsense from neo-Nazi fuckwits, that doesn't matter to him. He is interested in an anti-Ukrainian message, not the truth of the situation. That, is what matters to him.

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6 hours ago, Roman Alymov said:

Let me remind you Ukraine is part of Russia. Re MH17 and Salisbury  - ask your Gov who is creating this stories for you to consume,

No, Russia is part of novo-Ukraine.

  

7 hours ago, Roman Alymov said:

Russians are complaining about West pushing Russians (as most of citizens of Ukraine are just Russians who happened on wrong side of artificial administrative border when local Communist Party bosses "privatized" their parts) into meatgrinder. It is civil war with strong foreign involvement  - as was previous one 100+ years ago. It is not the first time we see British and French tanks in steppes of South Russia....

Yes, haha you got epically pranked! Next year we'll prank you into removing all remaining toilets in Russia.

I swear Russia is the most easily bamboozled nation in history.

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1 minute ago, Mighty_Zuk said:

No, Russia is part of novo-Ukraine.

As i have allready said, pro-Russians are saying "Russian Federation failed to integrate Novorossia -and now Novorossia is integrating Russian Federation". There is certain truth in it, as it was unimaginable few years ago to see liberal party champion ex-President Medvedev visiting troops somewhere near Donetsk

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1 hour ago, Roman Alymov said:

So what it was "signed by Putin"? Just another politician, acting in own interests (or, rather, in "collective Putin" ones). It can't change history. 

    There is a lot of cases in history Russian elites were signing anti-Russian papers. Who cares now (except those who are left with this memories as reminder of their foemer glory)

So, basically, you are saying that anything signed by Russian leaders holds zero value since Russia has every right to ignore signed agreements at will.

This also means that any negotiations for whatever with Russia are completely pointless.

If your points of view represent the Russian points of view, people should start wondering, not if, but when the nukes start flying.

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Just now, Rob Veenendaal said:

So, basically, you are saying that anything signed by Russian leaders holds zero value since Russia has every right to ignore signed agreements at will.

I mean documents signed by colonial administration (and Russian elite is de-facto colonial administration of West) are only valid as long as colony is under control of colonial power. West, in its arrogance, at least partly lost this control, so....

3 minutes ago, Rob Veenendaal said:

If your points of view represent the Russian points of view, people should start wondering, not if, but when the nukes start flying.

Do you really believe nukes are not flying because of signatures on paper?

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1 minute ago, JWB said:

Do tell why "west" would want control of these lands?

Not "land" but profits generated by having them under control, both directly (as money/commodities flow) and indirectly (as part of having global domination). Isn't it nice to have steady stream of oil/gas comming in, and then money paid for it comming back into your banks/property?

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21 minutes ago, Roman Alymov said:

Not "land" but profits generated by having them under control, both directly (as money/commodities flow) and indirectly (as part of having global domination). Isn't it nice to have steady stream of oil/gas comming in, and then money paid for it comming back into your banks/property?

That only happens when locals cannot run oil and gas industries. See Saudi, Kuwait, Iran, etc.

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