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hehe, at 4th grade (or was it 3rd?, back in 1986-87), when came time for the obligatory application to join the Young Pioneers, i declined, because i found the whole thing just stupid .

the teacher told me to write explanatory note  to school director, but i just sat there, till she told me to go home. because i made the statisics look bad (out of 25 kids in class, 22 joined Young Pioneers,  2 were not allowed to join because bad grades and i was top three by grades)

the school decided to use positive reinforcement - they made me the troop commander , so i commanded my classmates. 

it all lasted till first review a month later or so, when some higher authority came to inspect the pioneers and noticed marching in front of the troop me without the obligatory red rag. and that was the end of my career. i guess  i can still claim to be a dissident. 

 

as for the russia - fascism themes , when putin was asked about most important russian thinkers, his first choice was Ivan Ilyin 

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View on fascism and antisemitism[edit]

A number of Ilyin's works[5][6] (including those written after the Italian and German defeats in 1945) advocated fascism.[7] Ilyin initially saw Adolf Hitler as a defender of civilization from Bolshevism and approved of the way Hitler had, in his view, derived his antisemitism from the ideology of the Russian Whites.[3]: 20  In 1933, he published an article titled "National Socialism. A New Spirit" in support of the takeover of Germany by Nazis.[8] However, when Nazi Germany declared the Slavs to be inferior Untermenschen (subhumans), Ilyin was offended and was detained by the Gestapo after his criticism. He then fled to Switzerland.[9

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Ilyin#View_on_fascism_and_antisemitism

 

putin issued obligatory reading lists for russian officials , which prominently put works of ilyin at top spot. 

although most officials probably sighed and threw away those lists.

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On 5/30/2022 at 5:36 AM, Roman Alymov said:

Described as FH70 battery (provided by Italy) hit by pro-Rus drone-directed strike, seems like guided artillery projectile. Note remarkable discipline of the position - no trucks parked nearby, no tracks, no boxes, no litter.... https://t.me/WarDonbass/66349

The explosion looks much too big for Krasnopol though. But perhaps too small for guided rocket artillery like 9М542 with a 250 kg unitary warhead.

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13 hours ago, mandeb48 said:

WAR IN UKRAINE DAY 94: BLOODY STRATEGY OF RETREATING UKRAINIAN MILITARY KILLS CIVILIANS (VIDEOS 18+)

Zelensky left Kiev for the first time since the beginning of the Russia’s military operation and visited Kharkov

In the Kharkov region, the attempts of the Ukrainian Armed Forces to continue their advance towards the Russia’s border failed. Ukrainian units suffered losses and retreated from Ternovoe, as well as from the localities of Peremoga and Guryev Kazachok. Another failed attempt to counterattack by the AFU was reported near the Dergachi town, north of Kharkov. The front lines follows the Cossack Lopan—Liptsy—Ternovoe—Rubezhnoye line, where positional battles continue. In turn, the Russian military does not conduct offensive operations in the region.

 

https://militaryland.net/ukraine/invasion-day-94-summary/

 

Sounds like good propaganda....

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On 5/29/2022 at 1:36 AM, Stuart Galbraith said:

Same thing happened in 2003. A group of AH64's were badly shot up flying over an urban area. I think only one was shot down, but it was a mission kill because none of the sighting systems were armoured against 7.62mm.

If it made it back to its airfield, its hard to complain about how well armoured it was. It worked, it presumably had backups from all those control systems. But it does suggest that they, as we, simply hadnt considered that in a conventional or even unconventional war, even the 7.62mm still counts.

Suggests nothing of the sort.

It seems obvious to me that the US Army saw two scenarios, post-Nam; the Fulda Gap scenario where Team NATO had 48 hours to blunt the assault or die trying, and the Vietnam-II scenario. In the former, the Army needed attack helos to take out 5-10 Sov tanks before being shot down. Remaining Sov units then handed over to American armor. In the latter scenario, as long as you got your pilots back the SoCal aerospace industry would make them another mount.

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On 5/29/2022 at 6:48 PM, P Lakowski said:

I LOVE EVERY THING THIS GUY DOES!

I have been watching most of his videos since a couple of weeks back, and I agree they are really good. While it is obvious he does not support Russia, he at least tries to give good overview on things. Good watching for people like me who are not experts on everything.

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1 hour ago, Ivanhoe said:

Suggests nothing of the sort.

It seems obvious to me that the US Army saw two scenarios, post-Nam; the Fulda Gap scenario where Team NATO had 48 hours to blunt the assault or die trying, and the Vietnam-II scenario. In the former, the Army needed attack helos to take out 5-10 Sov tanks before being shot down. Remaining Sov units then handed over to American armor. In the latter scenario, as long as you got your pilots back the SoCal aerospace industry would make them another mount.

The second paragraph was actually about the KA52, I wasnt really very clear about that.

In the US military case, as far as armour, the AH64 is still pretty much as the A model left it, and the armour configuration was to defeat 23mm IIRC, on major systems, stuff that kept it in the air. There isnt anything on the weapon systems or the TADS. Its worth pointing out, ive a book written during the cold war where a young Apache pilot was decrying the Army's 'Deep Strike'  because he could see problems like this emerging. And in 1991, they did it, in a desert, and assumed the same logic held up doing it over Urban areas. Flying Helicopters at low altitude over Urban areas proved a bad idea as early as Mogadishu. But who was listening?

The Russians didnt buy a single KA52 before the cold war ended. They had 30 years to configure this machine towards post cold war missions, something they had considerable experience of in Syria. And they failed. Which considering the KA50 and KA52 were mission oriented more towards coin operations, because they dont have such an extensive defence aids systems as western nations, this is just a bit odd. Maybe that was just justification for not funding a full defence aids system.

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In other news, Soloviev talks of Russia's next conquest. Salisbury Plain! :D

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/moscow-tv-presenter-says-russia-143139211.html

A Russian television personality with close links to Vladimir Putin has threatened Britain, claiming the despot’s invasion could stretch as far as Stonehenge.

Firebrand anchorman Vladimir Solovyov, known as ‘Putin’s Voice’, and ranted that Russia could invade Britain and target Boris Johnson’s foreign secretary Liz Truss, the Daily Mirror reported.

When asked by the Ukrainian political analyst Vasil Vakarov where Putin’s savage regime would stop its war, he replied: “Well, when we have to, then we will.

“Where will we stop? Well, as I was saying today, maybe Stonehenge. Liz Truss says she's the one fighting the war.”

The British foreign secretary has been in the crosshairs of Russian media rhetoric in recent months due to her unwillingness to compromise with Putin.

Before Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, the foreign secretary was taunted by her counterpart in Moscow, Sergei Lavrov, who claimed after talks with her that it was “like the conversation with a deaf person… who is here, but does not hear”.

Solovyov also claimed Putin should attack Kyiv - just weeks on from Russian forces being left embarrased after being ordered to withdraw from the capital and its surrounding areas after meeting fierce Ukrainian resistance.

Putin loyalist Solovyov has been the target of sanctions and has lost two Lake Como mansions in Italy due to the invasion.

Previous claims on Russian TV made against Britain included a former MP, Yuri Shvytkin, claiming Moscow could wipe out “the whole of the UK in two minutes” with nuclear weapons.

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The Russian military found a van with the bodies of 152 dead militants of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and Azov on Azovstal.

The van was booby-trapped, explosives were enough to destroy it, according to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.

Captured militants of "Azov" earlier told during interrogations that the bodies were mined on the direct instructions of Kiev.

Thus , the regime pursued two goals:

- On the one hand, to accuse Russia of deliberately destroying the remains.

- On the other hand, to prevent the removal of bodies for transfer to relatives in order to hide the scale of losses and save the "political reputation" of the Kiev regime and Zelensky personally.

Now Russia plans to transfer all these bodies to the Ukrainian side.

https://gab.com/ErikDuPre/posts/108395775676260505

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Ukraine is the most corrupt country in Europe. Much of the equipment which the GloboHomo West has donated will be sold to militants all over the world and the money will go into Ukrainian politicians pockets. The weapons which were donated will end up killing the doners.

Ukraine resells Western weapons

In Syria, through specialized channels, unknown people are trying to sell American-made Javelin anti-tank missiles. The issue price is 15,000 thousand dollars. According to the sellers, the weapons were bought at bargain prices in Ukraine.

https://gab.com/ErikDuPre/posts/108395777054484831

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Part 2
Ukraine resells Western weapons

In Syria, through specialized channels, unknown people are trying to sell American-made Javelin anti-tank missiles. The issue price is 15,000 thousand dollars. According to the sellers, the weapons were bought at bargain prices in Ukraine.

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1 hour ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

In other news, Soloviev talks of Russia's next conquest. Salisbury Plain! :D

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/moscow-tv-presenter-says-russia-143139211.html

A Russian television personality with close links to Vladimir Putin has threatened Britain, claiming the despot’s invasion could stretch as far as Stonehenge.

Firebrand anchorman Vladimir Solovyov, known as ‘Putin’s Voice’, and ranted that Russia could invade Britain and target Boris Johnson’s foreign secretary Liz Truss, the Daily Mirror reported.

When asked by the Ukrainian political analyst Vasil Vakarov where Putin’s savage regime would stop its war, he replied: “Well, when we have to, then we will.

“Where will we stop? Well, as I was saying today, maybe Stonehenge. Liz Truss says she's the one fighting the war.”

Reminds me of a Finnish newspaper strip...

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Nordic progress! ;)

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Any data could be a case of us seeing what we are let to see. A democracy has less control over the flow of information than a dictatorship. Speaking of, a system with no checks and balances, no due process and almost no independent media is a more fertile ground for corruption than one that has such things to some degree. 

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27 minutes ago, Markus Becker said:

Any data could be a case of us seeing what we are let to see. A democracy has less control over the flow of information than a dictatorship. Speaking of, a system with no checks and balances, no due process and almost no independent media is a more fertile ground for corruption than one that has such things to some degree. 

No much difference between Russia and Ukraine in those aspects, and the little that could be found is in Russia favor.

Also Zelensky could make cannon fodder of any of his male subjects by sending them to a war he could have prevented if only he had enforced the Minsk agreements. Putin has not called a general mobilization.

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7 minutes ago, sunday said:

No much difference between Russia and Ukraine in those aspects, and the little that could be found is in Russia favor.

Also Zelensky could make cannon fodder of any of his male subjects by sending them to a war he could have prevented if only he had enforced the Minsk agreements. Putin has not called a general mobilization.

Russia is not a Democracy, despite all its claims. If anything, the remarkable turnover in Ukrainian leaders shows that part works very well. The remarkable lack of new leaders in Russia over the past 20 years tells it's own story.

Zelensky is trying to reform Ukraine. Putin never has. Zelensky has murdered nobody. Putin has murdered scores.

Putin could have avoided the war by respecting the Minsk protocols. He didnt, because he wanted Ukraine.

Putin is mobilising on the quiet. That he is changing legislation to increase the age where you are liable for military service is a clear indication of this.

Tell me, do you regularly have near misses on Zebra crossings? :)

 

 

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1 hour ago, Markus Becker said:

Ukraine is certainly a very corrupt country in Europe but the most corrupt country? I think Russia beat the Ukraine in this regard by a country mile. 

I would have thought that the poorer country prewar (Ukraine) was probably the more corrupt.

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7 hours ago, Stefan Fredriksson said:

I have been watching most of his videos since a couple of weeks back, and I agree they are really good. While it is obvious he does not support Russia, he at least tries to give good overview on things. Good watching for people like me who are not experts on everything.

 

57 minutes ago, sunday said:

Keep thinking!

You may want to look for actual rankings, also.

Rankings by who....more suspect sources? He is clear in his interest but the effort he puts in is hard to disput.

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8 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Russia is not a Democracy, despite all its claims. If anything, the remarkable turnover in Ukrainian leaders shows that part works very well. The remarkable lack of new leaders in Russia over the past 20 years tells it's own story.

Zelensky is trying to reform Ukraine. Putin never has. Zelensky has murdered nobody. Putin has murdered scores.

Putin could have avoided the war by respecting the Minsk protocols. He didnt, because he wanted Ukraine.

Putin is mobilising on the quiet. That he is changing legislation to increase the age where you are liable for military service is a clear indication of this.

Tell me, do you regularly have near misses on Zebra crossings? :)

 

 

SEE GREAT comment , but i just want to give a up-vote or a LIKE VOTE, rather than type sentences!

THIS FORUM needs an upgrade.

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4 minutes ago, P Lakowski said:

SEE GREAT comment , but i just want to give a up-vote or a LIKE VOTE, rather than type sentences!

THIS FORUM needs an upgrade.

Stuart is correct that Russia is not a democracy as we know it, but Russia now is certainly more democratic than it's ever been in the past, so overall it's moving in the right direction compared to Russia in the past.  For Ukraine, the standard is that they are "improving".  But, between Ukraine and Russia, the idea that Ukraine is the more democratic of the two?  Seems a bit nebulous to prove one way or the other.

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2 minutes ago, glenn239 said:

He's succeeding.  Ukraine is quite different from when he took power.

Russia isnt. It's more and more exactly as it was under Yeltsin, except less free to complain about it.

7 minutes ago, P Lakowski said:

SEE GREAT comment , but i just want to give a up-vote or a LIKE VOTE, rather than type sentences!

THIS FORUM needs an upgrade.

Oh God no, Bojan will wear out the downvote button. :)

 

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