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On CNN, they interviewed operators in an E3, and they seem to be finding it impossible to tell Ukrainian or Belarus combat aircraft apart. Many of the strikes are being undertaken from Belarus territory.

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2 minutes ago, Der Zeitgeist said:

Do the Russians still have spare BTGs in western Belarus that aren't already committed by now?

there were in Brest, not sure if they are still there though

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I am beginning to think that the BTG concept may not be well suited to the actual conditions on the ground here.  I mean, it is highly mobile and packs a big punch, but with only 200 infantry it will struggle to secure flanks, and the large artillery component means logistics quickly becomes an issue.  And if the enemy is not obligingly massing his units, well...

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15 minutes ago, Der Zeitgeist said:

Do the Russians still have spare BTGs in western Belarus that aren't already committed by now?

All I know is, they have thrown in everything that bordered Ukraine, according to the Americane. 30 percent are located elsewhere. Of course it's just about conceivable, considering how old and poorly maintained the kit is, they are just paper organisations and don't actually exist.

Maybe we should ask Steiner. :)

 

 

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21 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

On CNN, they interviewed operators in an E3, and they seem to be finding it impossible to tell Ukrainian or Belarus combat aircraft apart. Many of the strikes are being undertaken from Belarus territory.

fun thing... Russians were shooting down Ukrainian planes over Kyiv in first days of war... yet they failed to shoot down Su-25 bombarding Belarus borders??? Its so blatantly obvious False Flag operation...

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3 minutes ago, Soren Ras said:

I am beginning to think that the BTG concept may not be well suited to the actual conditions on the ground here.  I mean, it is highly mobile and packs a big punch, but with only 200 infantry it will struggle to secure flanks, and the large artillery component means logistics quickly becomes an issue.  And if the enemy is not obligingly massing his units, well...

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From the orbat in Mark Galeottis book on war in East Ukraine, I was astonished to see in motor rifle units they  have 3 platoons in each battalion roled as weapons platoons, the equipment strength of most of a company. That might make sense for defensive operations, but it's far too high when you want discounts to clear a path for armour.

 

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3 minutes ago, jaro said:

fun thing... Russians were shooting down Ukrainian planes over Kyiv in first days of war... yet they failed to shoot down Su-25 bombarding Belarus borders??? Its so blatantly obvious False Flag operation...

I shudder to think what they were bombing with...

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10 hours ago, crazyinsane105 said:

That would require an extra 150K troops that would need to come through Belarus along Western Ukraine and close off the border with Poland, and shut down every major highway and roadway in that part of the country.
 

Something that Russia can technically do with enough time but politically it’s unfeasible at this point for Putin. 

Why is it politically infeasible for Putin to do that?

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7 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

I shudder to think what they were bombing with...

If there even was an airstrike at all. Sources in Belarus apparently haven't seen anything going on there.

 

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4 hours ago, Stefan Kotsch said:

You want to tell us, for example, that the countless Western European machine tools in Russian factories, the many investments by Western European companies in Russia, the successful trade in Western European vehicles and vehicle parts for Russia,for example,  and and and, that all this was just a vicious trap to insidiously ruin Russia in 2014/15 after Russia's first invasion of Ukraine and after the second invasion of Ukraine? Doesn't that sound absurd?

No, it was just business

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On 2/26/2022 at 3:33 PM, Doug said:

True, and the latest model of Starstreak has automatic target tracking. 

https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/starstreak-ii-hvm

Other than being beam riding (which is a feature not a bug), it doesn't have much in common with Blowpipe or Starburst 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/03/09/britain-send-worlds-advanced-anti-aircraft-missile-system-ukraine/

 

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41 minutes ago, Soren Ras said:

I am beginning to think that the BTG concept may not be well suited to the actual conditions on the ground here.  I mean, it is highly mobile and packs a big punch, but with only 200 infantry it will struggle to secure flanks, and the large artillery component means logistics quickly becomes an issue.  And if the enemy is not obligingly massing his units, well...

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200 just isn't nearly enough for serious resistance. For operating in the DPR/LPR where they are largely surrounded by friendlies, it makes more sense. Also it seems like there is almost no recon element attached, although someone noted that a platoon is generally part of the org (not that I've seen any vehicles that I could clearly identify as recon elements).

I think the BTG TO&E gets heavily revamped or binned.

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26 minutes ago, glenn239 said:

Why is it politically infeasible for Putin to do that?

Where would the men and equipment come from?

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6 minutes ago, Perun said:

No, it was just business

The weapons for this war were produced with the help of Western European machines. Do you do business like this when you actually want to destroy your trading partner? Doesn't sound very logical.
 

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14 minutes ago, X-Files said:

GATES OF VIENNA Part Deux 2022 <- see, that rhymes. 

I know how this sequel will turn out - same as the original.

Russia Recruiting Syrians for Urban Combat in Ukraine, U.S. Officials Say - WSJ

 

Ukraine war: Putin seeks foreign volunteers to fight in Ukraine - BBC News

 

 

If that's true, and with Al Jazeera that's a significant 'if', then said Ukrainians are making a serious mistake. That pork fat stunt is more likely to anger Muslims than to deter them.

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