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3 minutes ago, Josh said:

Look, China found a new scapegoat for the Wuhan virus.

Considering that Fauci authorized the grant for the gain of function research that was being done in Wuhan, one could say there have been more innocent scapegoat during history.

Edited to add: On Taiwan as a country or not, the fact that the PRC has not responded could be seen as worrisome, as it could be an indication they have more serious matter to consider.

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Jaguar, this one is from your country - Pepe Escobar. A bit too Commie for my tastes, but there is some food for thought in this article, about how sanctions will mainly harm Europe, but benefit Venezuela, Iran, China, or even Russia.

https://thesaker.is/russian-judo-tears-the-west-apart/

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1 hour ago, sunday said:

Taiwan as a country or not, the fact that the PRC has not responded could be seen as worrisome, as it could be an indication they have more serious matter to consider.

Worrisome indeed, as they are probably only a generation away from not caring about marrying the Taiwanese chip heiress already in their bedroom.

 

1 hour ago, sunday said:

BTW, has anyone realized the Philippines are not among the countries considered as hostile by Russia. Has Duterte made a deal with Beijing or Moscow?

I'd consider that a national insult to their pride in various ways :)

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5 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

 

China has nothing to do with this.  It cannot bail Putin out the hole he dug for himself. 

Maybe not bail him out. It can help him.

Buy all the natural resources Russia has to offer.

Send an unlimited number of replacement tires.

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Hoping they don't buy Yasens.

Tomorrow's headline: Philippines Declares War On Federation 

2 hours ago, glenn239 said:

Yes Nobu, Putin invaded Ukraine because he's terrified of the prospect of nuclear war.  

He could be terrified of the Klingon Empire for all I know. Putin invaded Ukraine because he's stupid.

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Re: Philippines as it was mentioned earlier...

Official government policy statement is that it recognizes the current unpleasantness in the West as an invasion, and implores for a peaceful resolution to the matter.

https://www.rappler.com/nation/philippines-condemns-russia-invasion-ukraine/

The Philippines bought some Hip helicopters from Russia, with our SecDef saying it has made initial payment already despite CAATSA. Now that purchase is more problematic because of the war. The Philippines is one of the countries that stands to lose in this conflict due to rising petroleum costs, that helicopter deal, and others (e.g., Filipinos working abroad are affected, inflation driven by petrol price, etc).

A bike buddy's cousin was onboard the Japanese cargo ship that was hit by Russian ordnance during the early days of the conflict. He and the rest of the crew are ok.

We are in an election season, with the son of dictator Marcos who leads the surveys having changed his position on the war (from pro-Russia, to condemning the invasion). Robredo, his main rival, and who is backed by the Catholic Church, has also condemned the invasion. Not that their opinions really matter in the greater scheme of things as the Philippines really does not have any real influence on whatever happens in that part of the world.

That's all I have to contribute in this discussion.

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12 minutes ago, Corinthian said:

The Philippines is one of the countries that stands to lose in this conflict

Well, there are not many countries that could benefit...

What is the situation on foodstuffs and fertilizers?

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The government has (tacitly) abandoned self-sufficiency in food as a program, and largely reliant on trade deals on food with neighbors such as Vietnam, Thailand, China, and India. ChiCom produce has flooded even the small provincial markets. While we still grow rice, we import a lot to keep the price of rice down in the market.

As for fertilizer, I think most of that comes from China.

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2 hours ago, futon said:

BEIJING, March 8 (Xinhua) -- Chinese foreign ministry on Tuesday called on the United States to release all-around details of its biological laboratories in Ukraine, and urged relevant parties to ensure their safety.

Recent media reports said those biological laboratories store large quantities of dangerous viruses, and Russia has found in the course of military operations that the United States uses those facilities for biological military programs.

Spokesperson Zhao Lijian said at a daily press briefing that for the health and safety of people in Ukraine, surrounding areas and the whole world, all parties concerned should ensure the safety of those laboratories.

"In particular, the United States, as the party that knows the laboratories best, should release relevant specific information as soon as possible, including what viruses are stored and the research that has been carried out," Zhao said.

The U.S. bio-military activities in Ukraine are only "the tip of the iceberg," Zhao said. Under various names, the U.S. Department of Defense controls 336 biological laboratories in 30 countries.

"What is the real intention of the United States? What exactly has it done? These have always been the source of misgivings for the international community," Zhao said.

Moreover, only the United States has for 20 years blocked the building of the Biological Weapons Convention verification protocol, and refused to accept inspections of biological facilities within and outside its borders, further aggravating the concerns of the international community, the spokesperson said.

"We once again urge the U.S. side to fully clarify its biological military activities both at home and abroad, and accept multilateral verifications," Zhao said. 

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/northamerica/20220308/cf0d75294eb649f098f33dcde4a01495/c.html

The answer to that crock of garbage should be one word "Wuhan", followed by "Shut your mouth."

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24 minutes ago, Corinthian said:

The government has (tacitly) abandoned self-sufficiency in food as a program, and largely reliant on trade deals on food with neighbors such as Vietnam, Thailand, China, and India. ChiCom produce has flooded even the small provincial markets. While we still grow rice, we import a lot to keep the price of rice down in the market.

As for fertilizer, I think most of that comes from China.

Seems you are not going to suffer from the sanctions, then. Egypt and Turkey receive most of their grain from Ukraine and Russia, for instance.

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34 minutes ago, CValdor said:

Motti or kessel?

There are unconfirmed rumors of Kessel in the southeast, but we will know more in a couple of days.

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9 hours ago, crazyinsane105 said:

I think a decent number of NATO states would reject it. Turkey for one wouldn’t stand for it. Others would follow 

Yes, but an open declaration makes the issue clear. Of course policy in the relevant country may change, so it is not an iron-clad guarantee of anything.

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2 hours ago, sunday said:

Jaguar, this one is from your country - Pepe Escobar. A bit too Commie for my tastes, but there is some food for thought in this article, about how sanctions will mainly harm Europe, but benefit Venezuela, Iran, China, or even Russia.

https://thesaker.is/russian-judo-tears-the-west-apart/

Indeed. EScobar is biased, but refreshing since he is very provocative. Thx.

 

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1 hour ago, Dark_Falcon said:

The answer to that crock of garbage should be one word "Wuhan", followed by "Shut your mouth."

That's a fair response. The PRC has not earned entitlement to demand answers like that.

That aside, right next door to Russia would be a strange place to conduct a secret program like that as it should be expected for its existance to leak out in a place full of Russian spies.

So in addition to "Ukraine is nuclear threat to Russia" now they have "Ukraine is bioweapon threat to Russia".

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VICTORIA NULAND: Ukraine has biological research facilities which, in fact, we're now quite concerned Russian troops, Russian forces may be seeking to gain control of, so we are working with the Ukrainians on how we can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces should they approach.

Not sure how accurate that readout is, but it sounds like she's on to something here.

She may not be the most subtle of people, but she may also have been right all along.

 

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2 minutes ago, Nobu said:

VICTORIA NULAND: Ukraine has biological research facilities which, in fact, we're now quite concerned Russian troops, Russian forces may be seeking to gain control of, so we are working with the Ukrainians on how we can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces should they approach.

Not sure how accurate that readout is, but it sounds like she's on to something here.

She may not be the most subtle of people, but she may also have been right all along.

 

Have a look here about the documentation purge performed by the US embassy in Kiev at the beginning of the invasion. I thought that was a bit too much on the far end, thus I did not posted anything here, but with that Nuland woman in damage control mode, there could be something.

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14 minutes ago, sunday said:

Have a look here about the documentation purge performed by the US embassy in Kiev at the beginning of the invasion. I thought that was a bit too much on the far end, thus I did not posted anything here, but with that Nuland woman in damage control mode, there could be something.

You're article is dated March 4th. This one is dated Feb 8th:

https://thebulletin.org/2022/02/russian-media-spreading-disinformation-about-us-bioweapons-as-troops-mass-near-ukraine/amp/

 

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