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Lawrow told the UN today that nuclear war must not be waged. As it seems that most Russian officials lied in the last months, we should all enjoy the last days of western and Russian civilization as we know it. So stop fighting here and go enjoy some time with your family and friends!

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2 minutes ago, Pleb said:

I am surprised he isnt on the front lines.

He is in uneasy relations with current leadership of LNR and DNR, to say the least. And his rhetoric about Putin is way more radical than one of Stuart (but from other direction, of course)

Here is his interview few days ago, on first days of Russian fores advance, in Russian. As always, pessimistic, but not as pessimistic as usually

 

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5 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

my apologies, I could have swore they had already joined. Well, you can probably credit it to nations in the region that already are.

Yeah I often think they are in EU already, because they are in NATO too.

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1 hour ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

 

Am I too cynical as expecting a tactical nuke to go off in Novorossiysk oil terminal, if this war continues for too long?

And an Ukrainian origin of the device will be claimed.

 

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5 minutes ago, John T said:

Am I too cynical as expecting a tactical nuke to go off in Novorossiysk oil terminal, if this war continues for too long?

And an Ukrainian origin of the device will be claimed.

 

No need for tactical nuke  - pro-Ukrainians were dreaming about creating dirty bomb for years.

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1 hour ago, sunday said:

Let me restate the facts in a clearer format.

Molotov

Cocktail

Thrown

From a Civilian Car

At

A Russian Armored Personal Carrier, tracked.

There is a video in this same thread, I think.

Edit: video found

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/8502631/ukrainians-molotov-cocktail-attack-russian-tank/

And yet it is russian propaganda which is so fond for partysan activity during ww2. What happened that now it is bad?

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37 minutes ago, Perun said:

Thoes that mean that nazis liberated Poland

1939-1941 there were both: German and Soviet occupation
1941-1944 there was German occupation replaced by Soviet occupation in 1945. 

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Partizans were shot. Or worse. Of course you didn't have to be a partizan to be liquidated with the Germans and their little able helpers. The Russians just aren't as brutal as the more evolved Europeans.

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42 minutes ago, Roman Alymov said:

He is in uneasy relations with current leadership of LNR and DNR, to say the least. And his rhetoric about Putin is way more radical than one of Stuart (but from other direction, of course)

Here is his interview few days ago, on first days of Russian fores advance, in Russian. As always, pessimistic, but not as pessimistic as usually

How is Strelkov viewed in Russia? Is he well known?

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23 minutes ago, John T said:

Am I too cynical as expecting a tactical nuke to go off in Novorossiysk oil terminal, if this war continues for too long?

And an Ukrainian origin of the device will be claimed.

 

Yep, my fears exactly.

 

I'm hearing rumours that the Russiaǹs tried to bomb the Kyiv tv tower, and hit the Baba Yar holocaust memorial next door. Anyone heard anything? I only give it credence because long distance photos suggest something big hit there.

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1 hour ago, Roman Alymov said:

I do not know. Actually this question "Why the hell Russian segment of Internet is full of pro-Ukrainian propaganda&@ was asked by many people here in Russia. 

Maybe because it's not very popular?  Considering the Eastern part of Ukraine that your Pro-Soviet(1) forces consider Russian Brothers and Sisters, it's quite odd that you're killing as many of them as you are in your ware of aggression. 

1. If Ukrainian forces are Pro-Ukrainian or Pro-Nazi, then your side is Pro-Soviet. 

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45 minutes ago, Perun said:

Thoes that mean that nazis liberated Poland

Is that such a difficult concept that Poland was occupied by both. first the  Nazis then the Russian Communists...?

Russians  have to take a very long look at soul of their country. No one trusts Russia except in relation to violence.

Russia after Soviet Union was unable to transform into a superpower South Korea, Japan etc. bringing prosperity to the world. 

If the Russian emphasis was in technological commerce , it would have much stronger military and would be much safer and would be a giant attraction for the countries around it. 

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3 hours ago, Roman Alymov said:

No idea how accurate is this information (it is not from offical sources)

Our artillery today with an accurate blow covered the headquarters of the operational-tactical group "Vostok" of the operation of the united forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

This headquarters controlled the enemy group defending from Donetsk to Mariupol.

Most of the officers of the staff of the OTG "Vostok" were killed or wounded.

According to unconfirmed information, the commander of the Vostok group, General of the AFU Sodol, was killed. Only a timely escape from the command post could save him. He simply had no other options to survive.

The management of the brigades of the OTG "Vostok" of the Ukr Army in Donbass is currently lost. The enemy is disorganized.

 That's part of the UA 36th Marine Brigade, right?

Same guys who allegedly had a deserter problem back in March 2021?

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3 hours ago, Roman Alymov said:

Russian Jew born in Lvov and now under US sanctions :) He will definitelly loose part of his posessions, not surprising he is complaining.  Personally, i think it is good.

What does it matter that he is a Jew. Remember, Roman, the objective of the Ukrainian adventure is to "de-nazify" Ukraine ...

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Not going to scroll back 1,000 pages to see if you folks talked about weather conditions while I was away.

Prevailing winds map

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Source

Resource potential for wind-hydrogen power in Ukraine - ScienceDirect

 

average-rainfall-ukraine-kiev.png

 

Average monthly rainfall and snow in Kiev (Kiev Region), Ukraine (millimeter) (weather-and-climate.com)

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1 hour ago, Simon Tan said:

Throwing Molotovs, like rioting and looting is OK. Have you learned nothing?

Simon, there's a difference between throwing a molotov cocktail at police who are trying to stop looting and rioting and throwing a molotov at an invading force that is themselves likely to loot.

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1 hour ago, futon said:

Sounds like a stupid international law. Maybe it made sense in some cases. I can't find myself finding such fault agaisnt civilian molotov slingers in their home country. Don't you think it's bizarre?

Only if you miss the context of the Geneva convention. These were agreed because before the standard was the razing of villages and the summary execution of locals who dared to even speak the occupier.

This is but one example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francs-tireurs

"The Germans executed captured francs-tireurs as irregular, armed non-combatants, essentially what also came to be called guerrillas or insurgents. ... The Germans reacted to francs-tireurs ambushes with harsh reprisals against the nearest village or town, where they killed civilians. Whole regiments or divisions often took part in "pacifying actions" in areas with significant franc-tireur activity; this created a lasting enmity and hatred between the occupying German soldiers and French civilians."

 

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17 minutes ago, Cynik75 said:

1939-1941 there were both: German and Soviet occupation
1941-1944 there was German occupation replaced by Soviet occupation in 1945. 

Russia, helping their neighbors get lost in the forests for more than 90 years.

 

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