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3 minutes ago, jaro said:

hmm, as far as I know Ukraine, there are Jewish community, quite big one, then there are Crimean tatars who are moslim but you  stole their land.. so i wouldn't say they are all Christian..

I have not said "all" but "predominantly". Crimean Tatars are minority even in Crimea itself (so - no, it is not "their land", they are just part of population). Jews, unfortunatelly, were first wiped out by Germans and then many of them left to Israel, so Jewish minority is very small (still, important as they are overrepresented among Oligarchs).

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17 minutes ago, glenn239 said:

If the map is accurate there is little doubt but that Zelensky was intending to attack the Donbass Pocket sometime this spring.  Why else would 13 out of 21 brigades in the Ukrainian army be placed in a position to be pocketed?

If one is expecting to be attacked, one can prepare to launch a spoiling attack immediately preceding to seize the initiative.

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3 minutes ago, glenn239 said:

 

Putin cannot be deterred.    

 

Oh, So now you say that, after spending the last 8 years saying we could have peace with Russia, if we didn't do things like defending our friends or demonstrating resolve. Well that worked just great didn't it? 

Appeasement makes the aggressor bolder. Maybe if a few more people had remembered that lesson that millions died to teach us, we would never get to the point where Europe is threatened with Nuclear war.Again.

 

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1 minute ago, jaro said:

actually, not really.. they werent.. whole Moravia is quite mixed, and  there could be some historical claims about first kingdom of Slovians (from whom we are descended) called Great Moravia... even their dialect is a mix between Czech and Slovak language.. but it doesnt matter... nobody cares about borders when you are part of EU Shengen..

Yeah man, everyone cared about borders from 10th century..

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3 minutes ago, Pleb said:

Yeah man, everyone cared about borders from 10th century..

Moravia still exists.. lol...  or you want to teach me on history of my own country??

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6 minutes ago, glenn239 said:

Please, put us all on your ignore list.

Better, I am expecting some nonsense about Spain being land stolen from the Muslims during Reconquista.

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1 hour ago, jaro said:

Reports of Russian bomber aircraft shot and crashed near Losk market in Kharkiv

 

Su-34 were seen bombing the city, maybe they got one.. but didnt see any pictures yet

If you did not see pictures, how about not posting propaganda claims by any side? Like those Il-76 full of paratroopers, or 6 planes shot down by "Angel of Kiev" or other such crap you spam?

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2 minutes ago, Roman Alymov said:

Central Donetsk still under Ukrainian Army artillery strikes

 

did you said they are retreating already? how could they still hit Doneck??? their artillery can do maybe 20-30km max..

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3 hours ago, Cynik75 said:

My first post here: as a Pole I think Ukraine should not be member o EU. Ii is country corrupted even more the Russia is. 
 

Welcome aboard.  Well, one good thing about the crisis is that at least Tanknet membership is growing again!

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3 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Im sure, but its all relative isnt it. But when you see what was once regarded as the absolute dog economy of Europe, Albania, actually doing economically quite well, with new building, development and tourists (I gather their amazing crop of bunkers are quite popular) then its clear to see that, at least as far as economic development, the EU has been an unparalled good for Europe. Ive great issues with it, but I wish we were still in it.

Albania's economy has grown nicely, true. Albania is not in EU, though, and their application is making little progress.

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4 minutes ago, jaro said:

did you said they are retreating already? how could they still hit Doneck??? their artillery can do maybe 20-30km max..

Please excuse me for kindly asking you to pay more attention to my post. For your convenience, let me repeat one of them from today - please note highlighted part 

Situation analysis from Igor Strelkov (Yandex-translated). Note he is now in Moscow as civilian person, so his data might be uncomplete)

Southern Front (Mykolaiv - Zaporizhia)


On the left flank, the advance of Russian troops in the area of Nikolaev continues. Apparently, an operation to block the city will be launched today. At the same time, preparations are underway for the storming and cleaning of Kherson (it will probably also begin today). Along the lower course of the Dnieper - the situation remains unchanged (expected).

On the right flank - the advance to the north on the approaches to the city of Zaporozhye. The main efforts are still aimed at cutting off the enemy group operating in the Donbas. However, so far (also expected by me) it is far from the environment. Reports that Russian troops advancing towards us have reached the nearest approaches to Izyum, Slavyansk and Kramatorsk have not yet been confirmed (although, perhaps, I simply do not have enough information, but nothing like this is reported to me from the field). The enemy continues to withdraw troops to the west to Dnepropetrovsk, although now - under active influence from the air and with corresponding heavy losses.


On the Donetsk front

On the southern flank (the region of Mariupol and Volnovakha), the DPR units fought heavy battles and had tactical successes, occupying a number of settlements in the depth of the enemy's defense. Mariupol, however, as of yesterday evening, had not yet been completely blocked, although the transfer of large units from and to the city was already impossible due to the impact of artillery and aviation. Also Volnovakha - there is no data about its complete environment, and the settlements west of the city that need to be occupied for such a blockade are not yet occupied (their capture has not been reported). At the moment, Volnovakha is covered from the south (the road to Mariupol in the Granitnoye area has been cut), from the east and from the northeast.

In the central sector, the enemy retains all advanced positions and conducts brutal shelling of advanced units of the DPR Armed Forces and settlements, primarily Donetsk, Gorlovka, Makeyevka and Yenakiyevo, as well as a number of other settlements. There is a lot of destruction, there are victims and wounded among the civilian population.

On the right flank (LNR). From the Svetlodarsk Arc to the Seversky Donets, the enemy continues to maintain its line unchanged. To the north of the specified river, the APU continues to retreat in an organized manner (albeit with heavy losses), leading rearguard battles. In all likelihood, Severodonetsk will not be left without a serious battle (today I expect battles for the city and its surroundings).


Central Front

The left (southern) flank. From the most important site (on which it was necessary to concentrate (in my opinion) initially the main efforts, since it is here that it is necessary and still possible to solve the task of completely encircling the Donetsk grouping of the Armed Forces) - reliable information was not received. As stated above, the locals do not know anything about the breakthrough of Russian troops to Izyum, Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, and I do not have any other information at my disposal. Let's hope that the statements made by the enemy about the preparation of these cities for an imminent assault have serious grounds. Until the Russian troops reach the nearest approaches to these settlements, only Yuri Podolyaka and an unnamed "veteran of the Vostok battalion" can confidently talk about the "imminent encirclement of the entire AFU group."

The central section. I am waiting for basic information from Kharkiv. Until the city is taken, further progress to the west will inevitably stall. Fierce street battles with varying success were going on in Kharkiv all day yesterday. As a positive factor, it should be noted that (after the day before yesterday's losses) Russian forces are actively using aviation and all types of heavy weapons to destroy the strongholds of the AFU and "Terbatov". I believe that the battles for the city will not end today and will continue for another day or more (much depends on the tactical decisions of the commanders fighting there, on the spirit of the defending units, etc.). It will be necessary to "clean up" the same city from small enemy groups many more times and later. In any case, there is no doubt that Kharkiv will be liberated. The only question is "when".

The advance of Russian troops in the direction of Poltava, the siege of Sumy and Chernihiv also continues. According to some reports, the delay in the storming of the above-mentioned settlements is due to the lag (for a number of subjective reasons) of the units and formations intended for this purpose with the arrival in this area.


District of Kiev

In the northern sector, Russian troops advanced to the suburb of Kiev - Brovary and began to form the "eastern" front of the blockade of the city. I do not expect attempts to break directly into Kiev before pulling up and concentrating sufficient forces today. The most likely attack of Russian troops on Boryspil with the aim of capturing this largest airport and cutting off Kiev from communication with the southeastern part of Little Russia (along the Kiev-Lubny highway). I think it is possible to mark this promotion as the most serious success of yesterday.


The right-bank section. Fierce fighting continued on it yesterday with heavy losses on both sides. Russian troops continued to expand and deepen the breakthrough both to the south and to the west. On the outskirts of Kiev, fighting continued in the area of the settlement of Irpen, in the west - for the city of Borodyanka, in the south, Russian troops cut the Kiev-Zhytomyr highway and continued to advance in order to intercept the Kiev -Bila Tserkva highway. I believe that it is the latter direction that the main efforts of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation will be directed today. And accordingly, the enemy also (realizing the danger of a complete blockade of Kiev from the south) - will provide the most fierce resistance there. I note once again - in fact, the fighting is taking place in a zone of continuous development, interspersed with suburban areas and industrial zones. For the attackers, such a landscape presents the greatest difficulties and requires a lot of additional forces to control the territories already traversed. But the forces are coming - I know that for sure.


General conclusions.

Despite the fierce resistance of the AFU and Terbatov, as well as objective difficulties with supplies, the offensive of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continues on all sectors of the front. At the same time, taking into account the acquired experience, the command has not yet made deep, but unsecured breakthroughs by the second echelons in order to avoid unjustified losses from the actions of enemy mobile groups on communications. The second echelons are being actively and urgently pulled up, measures are being taken to urgently recruit and transfer units and units of the commandant's service to the Theater of Operations. And the hasty formation of new ones on the territory of the Russian Federation has already begun (which pleases).

The main offensive combat operations for today will be conducted in the area east and west of Kiev, in Kharkiv, in the Donbas and in the Zaporozhye region. Perhaps - near Poltava.

The enemy will continue to put up fierce organized resistance in the hope of shackling Russian troops with battles deliberately left surrounded by garrisons of "fortresses" (Kharkiv, Mariupol, Sumy, Chernihiv, Volnovakha, possibly - Severodonetsk, Slavyansk and Kramatorsk) and trying to prevent the complete encirclement of Kiev (whose garrison will soon be surrounded forcibly). At the same time, the enemy will continue to form a defense in the Dnepropetrovsk area and hastily create as many units of "territorial defense" as possible through active mobilization (which, alas, was a very large percentage of those called up).

I expect new operational successes of the Russian troops for today, but not a strategic reversal of the situation towards the defeat of the main groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

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34 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Shame. Maybe we can give them tranche1 Typhoons instead...

Why do you hate Ukrainians so much?

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30 minutes ago, jaro said:

Thats why me as a Slovak dont understand that whole nationalism in Balkans...

Because you don't know whole history behind it. There was never any attempt during WW2 or before by Czech or Slovaks to eradicate each other.

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6 minutes ago, Yama said:

Albania's economy has grown nicely, true. Albania is not in EU, though, and their application is making little progress.

my apologies, I could have swore they had already joined. Well, you can probably credit it to nations in the region that already are.

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5 minutes ago, Roman Alymov said:

Please excuse me for kindly asking you to pay more attention to my post. For your convenience, let me repeat one of them from today - please note highlighted part 

Situation analysis from Igor Strelkov (Yandex-translated). Note he is now in Moscow as civilian person, so his data might be uncomplete)

I am surprised he isnt on the front lines.

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43 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Shame. Maybe we can give them tranche1 Typhoons instead...

Tranche 1 Typhoons? I think those Croatian MiGs would be preferable after all...

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