Kiev Is Burning

[RETAC21]

Interesting, where is the Russian Air Force?

https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/mysterious-case-missing-russian-air-force

[Stuart Galbraith]

The sanctions probably hit their brylcream allowance. 

Ukrainian finds the volume control.

 

[rmgill]

I am astonished at the conga-line convoys sitting on the road blocking both lanes of traffic. Does no-one know to spread them out, herringbone them if terrain allows and otherwise disperse them when stopped?  I'm just a stupid re-enactor but I even make my own guys do that at events and noone is actually shooting at us. 

Edited February 28, 2022 by rmgill

[Stuart Galbraith]

 

Edited February 28, 2022 by Stuart Galbraith

[Stuart Galbraith]

2 minutes ago, rmgill said:

I am astonished at the conga-line convoys sitting on the road blocking both lanes of traffic. Does no-one know to spread them out, herringbone them if terrain allows and otherwise disperse them when stopped? 

Which raises another interesting question. Where are the Russian traffic police that were so prevalent in Soviet days?

[Yama]

10 minutes ago, rmgill said:

I am astonished at the conga-line convoys sitting on the road blocking both lanes of traffic. Does no-one know to spread them out, herringbone them if terrain allows and otherwise disperse them when stopped?  I'm just a stupid re-enactor but I even make my own guys do that at events and noone is actually shooting at us. 

Not particularly strange, when you have to move lots of stuff and the road capacity is limited, traffic jams are inevitable. And spreading out off-road works if the vehicles are off-road, otherwise, no....

Similar scenes happened during Iraq invasion 2003, and there were some attempts of Iraqi to exploit them, but not very successful.

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/26/sprj.irq.us.supply/index.html

[Roman Alymov]

Pro-Ukrainians hiding their BMPs in the shade of kindergarden building in Mariupol

https://t.me/boris_rozhin/24653

[Tim the Tank Nut]

a couple of thoughts:

In the off chance that TankNet goes offline in Russia or it simply becomes to dangerous to post online I'd like to take a moment to comment on Roman.  I don't always agree and there are times when I simply don't get it but I respect the willingness to offer a different point of view which I find valuable, further it's a differing point of view that is very much against the mainstream here.  I'm also aware of and in awe of Roman's technical skill set with historic military vehicles so from one fool to another, please be safe.

Regarding this thread the signal to noise ratio is actually pretty good all things considered but I'm not positive of the value of an infinite number of twitter images of burning APC's.  After a while they all look alike.

I think it is clear that the Russians are fully committed to the fight and Ukraine's fall is ultimately a certainty which is too bad because they've put up a good scrap so far.  Putin isn't going to stop and when they do knock off Zelensky then the fighting will stop.

No matter the outcome I do look forward to the Russians liquidating the members of Anonymous over the next few years.

For a long time I felt like the Chinese represented a threat to Russia's Far East, sadly they will be able to purchase it at bargain basement prices now.

I'd like to see Gerhard and Angela pay for what they have done but it isn't going to happen and in a way I even understand it as no one really thought this turn of events likely but as Joe cut off pipelines in the US he okayed N2 so there's blame to go around...

[Roman Alymov]

11 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Which raises another interesting question. Where are the Russian traffic police that were so prevalent in Soviet days?

Working,  a lot of videos show shem regulating traffic of pro-Russians and Russian Army advance to Mariupol. But it is not up to them to park columns, they control crossroads etc. in what is believed to be secured area.

[Laser Shark]

Kofman's longer take on the first four days of this war:

 

[MiloMorai]

9 minutes ago, Roman Alymov said:

Pro-Ukrainians hiding their BMPs in the shade of kindergarden building in Mariupol

https://t.me/boris_rozhin/24653

That won't save them from the Ruskies.

[Roman Alymov]

20 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

This kids with Molotov coctail are pretty sure they will not be shot at  - because Russian Army is operating under strict rules. Imagine Irackies throwing Molotov coctail at US vehicle and just driving away.....

Video from the car driving behind

 

[Red Ant]

31 minutes ago, RETAC21 said:

Interesting, where is the Russian Air Force?

https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/mysterious-case-missing-russian-air-force

I hope they're not holding it back to pull some kind of surprise move and alpha strike NATO into oblivion. Would be completely fucking crazy, but this is Putin we're talking about.

[seahawk]

38 minutes ago, Roman Alymov said:

And? We have our local systems plus local analogue of Ouster card, people will adopt within days - while market will be lost for Apple and Google forever....

By the way, in early morning today Zaporozhskaya Nuclear Power Plant, the biggest in Europe (6 reactors) was quietely taken under control by Rus Army. Now two NPPs closeest to Russia are under Russian control, and the danger of pro-Ukrainians blowing them is minimised (i do not think their Western masters would allow them to blow other statios closer to Europe) 

https://www.rt.com/russia/550823-russians-take-nuclear-plant/

If the rout of the terrorists forces continues, everything is possible. The people that wanted that war, still want Russia destroyed.

[Stuart Galbraith]

3 minutes ago, Red Ant said:

I hope they're not holding it back to pull some kind of surprise move and alpha strike NATO into oblivion. Would be completely fucking crazy, but this is Putin we're talking about.

If that was the case, there would be sigint indicating it. 

Otoh, yes, I could see Russia holding forces back in case it hapoens, particularly since the had an SU30 squadron come under Tochka attack.

 

 

[Stuart Galbraith]

4 minutes ago, seahawk said:

If the rout of the terrorists forces continues, everything is possible. The people that wanted that war, still want Russia destroyed.

Well Putin is still alive, so he may get his wish.

[Roman Alymov]

14 minutes ago, Tim the Tank Nut said:

a couple of thoughts:

In the off chance that TankNet goes offline in Russia or it simply becomes to dangerous to post online I'd like to take a moment to comment on Roman.  I don't always agree and there are times when I simply don't get it but I respect the willingness to offer a different point of view which I find valuable, further it's a differing point of view that is very much against the mainstream here.  I'm also aware of and in awe of Roman's technical skill set with historic military vehicles so from one fool to another, please be safe.

 

Thank you for kind words. A bit about public opinion in Russia

MOSCOW, February 28. /tass/. Two-thirds of Russians surveyed (68%) are more likely to support the decision of Russian President Vladimir Putin to conduct a special military operation in Ukraine, according to a survey by the All-Russian Center for the Study of Public Opinion (VTsIOM), published on the organization's website on Monday.

"68% of Russians rather support the decision to conduct a special military operation of Russia in Ukraine, every fifth respondent (22%) does not support it, every tenth citizen found it difficult to answer (10%)," the report says.

According to 26% of respondents, the decision to conduct a special operation was made in order to protect the Russian-speaking population of the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics (DPR and LPR). As other respondents noted, the special operation was required to ensure the security of Russia's borders and the demilitarization of Ukraine, as well as to prevent the deployment of NATO military bases on the territory of Ukraine (20% each). In addition, regarding Russia's goals, respondents indicated a change in the political course of Ukraine and its denazification (7%), a change in the political regime unfriendly to the Russian Federation (6%), as well as the division of Ukraine and the establishment of its influence on its parts (4%).

The All-Russian VTSIOM-Sputnik survey was conducted on February 25 and 27, 2022. 1.6 thousand Russians aged 18 and over took part in it. The maximum error size with a 95% probability does not exceed 2.5%.

On February 24, Russian President Vladimir Putin announced a special military operation in Ukraine in response to the appeal of the leaders of the republics of Donbass for help. He stressed that Moscow's plans do not include the occupation of Ukrainian territories, the goal is the demilitarization and denazification of the country. As specified in the military department, the Russian Armed Forces do not strike at cities, but only disable military infrastructure.

Source https://tass.ru/obschestvo/13903633

[Stuart Galbraith]

Cool, Russia is gonna nuke Luxembourg.

[Roman Alymov]

EU citizens and structures involved in the supply of lethal weapons and fuel to the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be responsible for any consequences of such actions in the conditions of a special military operation - the Russian Foreign Ministry

Quite clear warning, as for me.

[Gromit]

Quite clear hypocrisy from the nation using heavy weapons against civillians!

[Yama]

3 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Cool, Russia is gonna nuke Luxembourg.

Well, in that case we need to prepare some special response for such an act. Giving them a medal, for example.

[Nobu]

Hypocrisy would be expecting the following not to be enforced as well.

Federation citizens and structures involved in the supply of lethal weapons and fuel against the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be responsible for any consequences of such actions in the conditions of a special military operation

 

[sunday]

4 minutes ago, Gromit said:

Quite clear hypocrisy from the nation using heavy weapons against civillians!

Is there any evidence of that around?

[seahawk]

7 minutes ago, Roman Alymov said:

EU citizens and structures involved in the supply of lethal weapons and fuel to the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be responsible for any consequences of such actions in the conditions of a special military operation - the Russian Foreign Ministry

Quite clear warning, as for me.

Just fair. It makes any all supply depots and transport infrastructure installations in these countries legitimate targets for a pre-emptive strike.

[Red Ant]

2 minutes ago, sunday said:

Is there any evidence of that around?

The evidence is that in ANY war, civilians get killed in large numbers, and since this illegal war of aggression was started by Russia, it follows that they are directly responsible for ALL deaths resulting from it.

Edited February 28, 2022 by Red Ant