ink Posted February 28, 2022 Posted February 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said: What kind of air attacks are the Russians expecting that they're moving Buks across the border. Given the extent of their advance and the existence of longer range systems, why would they bother?
Perun Posted February 28, 2022 Posted February 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said: Claim on Sky news attributed to senior US intelligence official, that Belarus is expected to invade Belarus soon. Belarus will invade Belarus?
Perun Posted February 28, 2022 Posted February 28, 2022 9 hours ago, bojan said: Better not to start that otherwise we are all gonna end up under Italians. Modern italians does not have anything common with Romans
jaro Posted February 28, 2022 Posted February 28, 2022 Just now, Perun said: Modern italians does not have anything common with Romans that's just not true. Of course they have. Latin is still base of their language. But its not "roman" dna.. its Latin or Italic... after all, Romans considered Romans only those who came from city of Rome for quite some time (and they were Latin tribe), and only gave citizenship to Italic people after Socii war in 87BC...
On the way Posted February 28, 2022 Posted February 28, 2022 18 hours ago, bojan said: Let them. And those who want to fight for Russia too. Less of those in the world the better. I have very, very dim view of the "foreign volunteers", what you will never read in their memoirs, but you can get from their behavior is that most of them are there for the "kick" and ability to kill other people w/o facing consequences, and try to hide that behavior by stating "moral reasons" that are basically either outright lie or at best suffer from a heavy case of self-delusion. Anyone from Tanknet volunteering to go? LOL. There should be enough guys here to put together a platoon or 2. LOL.
On the way Posted February 28, 2022 Posted February 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Colin said: I get a left wing news site send me links, this war is all about oil, didn't you know? Except Ukraine is an importer of oil not an exporter. LOL
Yama Posted February 28, 2022 Posted February 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, jaro said: that's just not true. Of course they have. Latin is still base of their language. But its not "roman" dna.. its Latin or Italic... after all, Romans considered Romans only those who came from city of Rome for quite some time (and they were Latin tribe), and only gave citizenship to Italic people after Socii war in 87BC... Well, duh, people move a lot in 2000 years, pretty much no modern nation would have been distinguishable back then. Modern English have next to nothing to do with those guys who fought against Caesar, people who were living where Moscow would later be were certainly not Russian or any kind of Slavs at all, etc.
On the way Posted February 28, 2022 Posted February 28, 2022 (edited) 16 hours ago, bojan said: You mean Leopard 2? Leo 2 had a good excuse. They were not used in combat until maybe Astan with the Canadians and of course by the Turks in Syria. Whatever flaws were discovered in Turkish operations were supposedly long ago addressed by the succeeding upgrades up to A7 +. The T-72 on the other had this known turret blow off ammo cook off problem since the 70s. And despite many alleged upgrades and newer version and derivatives, the turret is still cooking off. This version of the T-72 was in service only in 2017, no? So, they have not fixed it. A better comparison would be to ask if a Leo 2A7 ever had a turret blow off like that or had some vulnerability the same as the older Leo 2 versions. Edited February 28, 2022 by On the way
jaro Posted February 28, 2022 Posted February 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, On the way said: Anyone from Tanknet volunteering to go? LOL. There should be enough guys here to put together a platoon or 2. LOL. I can tell you what i will do today - i'm going to supermarket to buy some croissants, sodas and other packed food, get some spare blankets, and will go to border to donate it to women and children that are coming.. Lots of my fellow citizens are doing the same.. Ukrainians are our neighbors and our brothers and sisters in need.
On the way Posted February 28, 2022 Posted February 28, 2022 1 minute ago, jaro said: I can tell you what i will do today - i'm going to supermarket to buy some croissants, sodas and other packed food, get some spare blankets, and will go to border to donate it to women and children that are coming.. Lots of my fellow citizens are doing the same.. Ukrainians are our neighbors and our brothers and sisters in need. Where are you located?
jaro Posted February 28, 2022 Posted February 28, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, On the way said: Where are you located? relatively close to border, like 40km or so.. but looks like i wont have to go, our mayor is organizing the donations, so i'm just dropping it there. Government wants to limit amount of cars on the road there for better transportation of people. Edited February 28, 2022 by jaro
Stuart Galbraith Posted February 28, 2022 Posted February 28, 2022 42 minutes ago, Perun said: Belarus will invade Belarus? Oh God, I keep doing that. Sorry, invade Ukraine. Normal service will be resumed as soon as possible.
Stuart Galbraith Posted February 28, 2022 Posted February 28, 2022 45 minutes ago, ink said: What kind of air attacks are the Russians expecting that they're moving Buks across the border. Given the extent of their advance and the existence of longer range systems, why would they bother? Like I said, they clearly dont seem to have ANY confidence in their own airpower. Those 34 sorties. What if they were all targeted on Russian supply lines?
Stuart Galbraith Posted February 28, 2022 Posted February 28, 2022 (edited) https://news.sky.com/story/oil-soars-back-above-105-as-ukraine-crisis-sanctions-intensify-12553818 Oil prices have soared again as the Ukraine crisis - and planned sanctions against Russia - intensified. Brent crude surged past $105 a barrel in overnight trading on Monday, nearing the peak seen last week when it hit its highest level since 2014. Russia represents 10% of global oil supply and it is feared measures to isolate some of its banks from a global interbank network could cause disruption. So I guess in one sense, this is already a World War. Its effects are now being felt globally, albeit not directly. Edited February 28, 2022 by Stuart Galbraith
RichTO90 Posted February 28, 2022 Posted February 28, 2022 The networks tonight were fixated on the "three-mile long column of hundreds of Russian vehicles" approaching Kyiv from the north. In the imagery they were nose to tail. Their granddaddies should berate them for failing to preserve proper road column interval and discipline...and if Ukrainian drones or aircraft find them a lot of them are likely toast...so a possible reason for the Buks and other AD.
Stuart Galbraith Posted February 28, 2022 Posted February 28, 2022 Even against a series of well planned ground ambushes, its could be catastrophic. Perhaps its stretching a point to think of the Varian Legions in AD9, but those guys were fighting for their homeland also. And its nothing the Chechens didnt do themselves anyway.
jmsaari Posted February 28, 2022 Posted February 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, RichTO90 said: The networks tonight were fixated on the "three-mile long column of hundreds of Russian vehicles" approaching Kyiv from the north. In the imagery they were nose to tail. Their granddaddies should berate them for failing to preserve proper road column interval and discipline...and if Ukrainian drones or aircraft find them a lot of them are likely toast...so a possible reason for the Buks and other AD. Thats a valid reason to have Buks and I think i saw a Tunguska there, but then you should have the Buk fire unit set up 10km to the rear ready to fire and the Tunguskas same but close to the convoy. If they're all just among the convoy packed like sardines with the other traffic, with radars stowed for travel, they're just high-value targets to be picked by Bayraktars. Apparently the Russians misjudged grossly the UKR response, but at this point it should be obvious what is actually going on and the ineptitude of the RUS still doing what we see them doing just boggles the mind...
jaro Posted February 28, 2022 Posted February 28, 2022 I think we misunderstood Putin's economical intentions... he just wants to make all Russians millionaires..
Roman Alymov Posted February 28, 2022 Posted February 28, 2022 1 hour ago, ink said: What kind of air attacks are the Russians expecting that they're moving Buks across the border. Given the extent of their advance and the existence of longer range systems, why would they bother? Two Bairaktars shot down early morning today. The day before yesterday two Su-25s were shot down in one attack. And so on. It is big region and AD support across the border is not enough.
seahawk Posted February 28, 2022 Posted February 28, 2022 31 minutes ago, Roman Alymov said: Two Bairaktars shot down early morning today. The day before yesterday two Su-25s were shot down in one attack. And so on. It is big region and AD support across the border is not enough. And one must be prepared for open NATO intervention at any time.
Simon Tan Posted February 28, 2022 Posted February 28, 2022 Fight like you train. Only NATO fights without AD. The Russians dont feel the need to 'show' the gubbing of the Ukrainians. That and the parole system makes them a lot better than NATO.
seahawk Posted February 28, 2022 Posted February 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Simon Tan said: Fight like you train. Only NATO fights without AD. The Russians dont feel the need to 'show' the gubbing of the Ukrainians. That and the parole system makes them a lot better than NATO. Agreed in 2 days Kiev is taken and the Ukrainians are done.
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