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8 minutes ago, Yama said:

Nah. Russians know that if they play nice for a few years, in the West there will be new administrations and new leaders, who will forgot everything and things will go back to cordial etc.

Look how quickly almost everyone forgot the Georgian war despite very tough contemporary rhetoric. It was all smiles and silly reset buttons.

Call me an optimist if you will, but I think this one is gonna stick.

 

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On 2/26/2022 at 7:09 PM, rmgill said:

And Moscow to the Swedes. 

No, all of Russia. We founded the bloody country after all, with Kyiv as the capital and what ended up as Moscow deep into the hinterland. I would suggest ruling Russia under Östhammar Municipality.

But I'd be willing to settle with Russia being ruled from Kyiv, as long as we get Nöteborg (St. Petersburg) and Kexholm (Karelia) back.

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9 minutes ago, Manic Moran said:

Were Poland, Bulgaria or Slovakia planning on replacing their MiG-29s any time soon? Their retirement may have been advanced.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AFP/status/1498029493033881601/photo/1

I thought I heard Slovakia is selling theirs, but maybe I misread.. But in truth, Mig  has had abysmal after sale service for years, and I think Poland and Bulgara are largely self sufficient. I got the impression they actually have higher availability rates than their aging F16s.

 

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7 minutes ago, Olof Larsson said:

No, all of Russia. We founded the bloody country after all, with Kyiv as the capital and what ended up as Moscow deep into the hinterland. I would suggest ruling Russia under Östhammar Municipality.

But I'd be willing to settle with Russia being ruled from Kyiv, as long as we get Nöteborg (St. Petersburg) and Kexholm (Karelia) back.

When are you going to return Norrbotten to Finland? :)

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5 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Going to love to see the arguments about whether it's going to be Typhoon, Gripen or Rafale. :D

Should have done it years ago.

My guess is that it's going to be MiG 29s from Poland and/or others.

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Wow, the words i have never hoped to hear from somebody in our Government

Volodin (Rus Parliament speaker) called an unacceptable position and betrayal of the people the approach of a number of cultural figures opposed to the operation in Ukraine, "who did not notice what was happening in the DPR and LPR and even today do not condemn neo-Nazis."

"If you are so principled, start by refusing state grants, from positions in budgetary institutions"

Similarly, he assessed similar statements "from those born with a golden spoon in their mouth and who went abroad."

"To begin with, return to your homeland, work for its benefit, and do not squander your parents' money in restaurants, clubs and resorts. Do not forget that their fortune is earned in Russia thanks to the work of citizens who are not going to leave."

Seems like access of our pro-Western 5th column to state funds they were so comfortably consuming for decades might be finally blocked. This alone made reintegration of Ukraine worth the efforts and sacrifices.

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1 minute ago, Yama said:

When are you going to return Norrbotten to Finland? :)

No problem, as part of Swedens eastern Duchery.

 

More seriuosly, today Sweden crossed a line, selling arms to a country in war did not happen after the  armsdeals with Israel and Egypt in the fifties.

(minor quantites of Carl-Gusafs and spares to 40mm, during the cold war but neither of those was officialy approved by the PM) 

Im pretty shure it would not have been possible without Russian pressure.

 

We'll join Nato in October.

 

Cheers

/John 

 

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1 minute ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

 

That farmer is reading my mind. 


In similarly amusing fare...

How do you say "Damnit Karl" in Ukrainian? 
 

 

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8 minutes ago, Dawes said:

Unless the EU is going to supply the pilots, support staff, logistics/training apparatus, etc., how is that going to work? That process normally takes years.

And airfields to base the planes (unless they want to base them abroad - with predictable consequences, since "abroad" in this region is "in NATO country").

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Just now, Roman Alymov said:

And airfields to base the planes (unless they want to base them abroad - with predictable consequences, since "abroad" in this region is "in NATO country").

Considering how pitifully impotent the RusAF and russian missiles units has been at taking out Ukrainian airbases, I'm not overly worried.

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11 minutes ago, rmgill said:

That farmer is reading my mind. 


In similarly amusing fare...

How do you say "Damnit Karl" in Ukrainian? 
 

 

Mine too. I'd find myself the shiniest, straightest T80U I could find. I've loved them since the Moscow coup. Bankrupt you running it though...

I fancy a Tigr would make a pretty decent runabout.

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5 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

That plausible. After all, without missles that they have already sent, they aren't much use.

Yep. Like @Dawes pointed out it's probably too late now to start introducing new complicated weapon systems. More of what they already have and less complicated stuff should be the focus right now.

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