Kiev Is Burning

[jaro]

is this a new one? i'm kinda dubious, Zhytomyr is quite far away from Russian operation zone, pushing that far west just asks for destruction once they are out of fuel...

 

edit:  Ah, its Zhytomyr region.. it was near town of Hranitne

 

Edited February 27, 2022 by jaro

[wilhelm]

1 hour ago, Roman Alymov said:

Meanwhile Mariupol-Volnovakha highway is cut by DNR forces, so now Mariupol is de-facto blocked - and entire Azov sea cost isolated all the way from Rostov-on-Don to Crimea

    

Shhhh....

It's only day 3.

Don't upset the narrative here.

Edit: It took 8 days to get to Basra during OIF...

Edited February 27, 2022 by wilhelm

[jaro]

 

[Nobu]

22 minutes ago, rmgill said:

Yep. I was doing a WWII event at a US base and had dismounted from the Dingo to recce forwards through what looked like a field filled with very tall reeds, it had good hard ground. I broke through the reeds and found a large ditch caused by erosion that would have swallowed the dingo up had I driven through the field at speed. Heck If I'd been running I'd probably have ended up down in the ditch on my ass. Probably would have injured me and my observer badly. And that's an open topped vehicle with decent visibility if you stick your head up. 

There's a video of a few guys driving around Normandy in an M3A1 who just miss a 5-year-old French girl waving to them from trailside by inches.

Even more sobering is that they probably didn't even see her until they were editing the dashcam footage.

Edited February 27, 2022 by Nobu

[Red Ant]

1 hour ago, glenn239 said:

Looks to me like the basic Russian calculation is that they can get by without relations with Europe or the United States.  

Nah, I don't think that was the calculation at all. IMO Putin predicted that the west would back down once again, as it had proven remarkably spineless up to that point. But now that the west is suddenly starting to rediscover its balls a few days into the invasion, it's obviously too late to pull back as it would be an open admission that he screwed up royally, so now there's no option left to him but to charge forward.

[Manic Moran]

6 hours ago, Roman Alymov said:

Green "SAFE" steaker means it is training model?

 

No, it means 'safety catch goes here so that it won't fire accidentally'

Yellow band indicates warshot.

[bojan]

36 minutes ago, jaro said:

looks like driving also needs some training in Russian army...

 

Look at tracks, that is not any kind of armored vehicle, looks more to be some kind of tracked machine (excavator/dozer/whatever).

Forum is called Tanknet FFS

[Roman Alymov]

Meanwhile Turkey is closing the straights for Russian and Ukrainian warships (de-facto only for Russian, as Ukraine do not have warships anymore) - just like Igor Strelkov predicted, and probably not only him (see MoD Shoigu visit to Syria with inspection jyst days before conflict intensified).

[bojan]

20 minutes ago, jaro said:

More Tigers burning near Kharkov.. 

Same ones as on pic with BTR-4.

[Roman Alymov]

2 minutes ago, Manic Moran said:

No, it means 'safety catch goes here so that it won't fire accidentally'

Yellow band indicates warshot.

Thank you!

[Ivanhoe]

2 hours ago, DB said:

So, at what point does a "short, victorious war" transition to something less politically appetising?

The American term for that end state is "nation building."

[wilhelm]

4 minutes ago, bojan said:

Same ones as on pic with BTR-4.

Jaro has been posting multiple posts showing the same events, but presented as new stuff on different days, from different angles.

So it goes....

No filter.

Edited February 27, 2022 by wilhelm

[Nobu]

24 minutes ago, wilhelm said:

Shhhh....

It's only day 3.

Generally agree, as history has shown that the Red Army usually gets its second wind. (Edited to add) Also agree that 90% of the footage/pictures/tweets we are seeing from both sides is probably bullshit.

Every day of organized Ukrainian military resistance is just icing, however.

Unfortunately (and ironically) for the Federation, the cake itself is an economic and political poison one. Let them choke on it.

Edited February 27, 2022 by Nobu

[Jaguar]

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[Roman Alymov]

2 minutes ago, Jaguar said:

 

It is information from Kiev Mayor Klichko, former heavy weight boxing champion famous for his ridiculous statements, so i would prefer for more reliable source.

[Stuart Galbraith]

1 hour ago, Daan said:

Three T-80s simply abandoned on a road South of Sumy:

 

This is becoming unbelievable. It's like looking at the Battle of the Bulge, abandoned kit everywhere.

[Roman Alymov]

Just now, Stuart Galbraith said:

This is becoming unbelievable. It's like looking at the Battle of the Bulge, abandoned kit everywhere.

With armor columns moving hundreds of kilometers often off roads in heavy mud bypassing resistance pockets, rate of losses to technical reason is surprisingly low, especially taking into consideration each case is immediatelly circulated globally by any means possible (as Western media, including digital one, are clearly not just on Ukraininian side but waging information war for them).

[Stuart Galbraith]

53 minutes ago, Gromit said:

Stick a bucket on your head with a tiny slot in it to see out then go ride your bike in the dark and see how you get on!

Visibility from and AFV is bloody awfull, and that's before you add in dirt on optics and exhaust smoke coupled to a guy who has sod all sleep, I honestly sympathise for all these mishaps!

That is the commanders job. If he doesn't have his heat out on road marches, isn't that suggestive of a certain lack of confidence?

I'm reminded of 3rd Armoured division whose commanders hatches were rusted open, because Patton said he would court marshal anyone with it closed.

[Red Ant]

1 minute ago, Roman Alymov said:

... (as Western media, including digital one, are clearly not just on Ukraininian side but waging information war for them).

Whoa, you're slipping ... isn't it supposed to be pro-Ukrainian side?

Edited February 27, 2022 by Red Ant

[Stuart Galbraith]

1 minute ago, Roman Alymov said:

With armor columns moving hundreds of kilometers often off roads in heavy mud bypassing resistance pockets, rate of losses to technical reason is surprisingly low, especially taking into consideration each case is immediatelly circulated globally by any means possible (as Western media, including digital one, are clearly not just on Ukraininian side but waging information war for them).

Roman, I can think of a handful of armoured vehicles that were abandoned in Iraq in 2003, and the Americans had the discipline to usually demolished them first. Remember Cohone eh?

 

https://m.facebook.com/TheArmorJournal/posts/1423172367802570?locale2=en_US&_rdr

 

[Roman Alymov]

1 minute ago, Red Ant said:

Whoa, you're slipping ... isn't it supposed to be pro-Ukrainian side?

No, people are pro-Ukrainians , but state the Western media are supporting is Ukraine, not pro-Ukraine (as well as Russia is not pro-Russia).

[Stuart Galbraith]

31 minutes ago, jaro said:

 

Maybe Ukraine will put up a statue to him, in a Ukrainian municipal toilets.

[Roman Alymov]

2 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Roman, I can think of a handful of armoured vehicles that were abandoned in Iraq in 2003, and the Americans had the discipline to usually demolished them first. Remember Cohone eh?

 

I think it is fundamentally wrong to compare road and off-road conditions in Iraq with one of south Russia in this season when unusually warm end of February transfromed everything into mud.

[Gavin-Phillips]

As if the MT-LB didn't have enough variants; here's another one.  I'm thinking this is probably a field-modification rather than something factory-built but its at 0:41 on the following news clip.

MT-LB's with the Shturm-S have already been seen on a few video clips but are these Konkurs missiles mounted above the PKT-armed turret?

[DavidDCM]

Maybe already irrelevant. But here's a hi-res picture of the tank from day 1 of the fighting in Kharkiv. Confirming it is indeed T-80BVM. I remember there was some disagreement about its identity.

--> Getty Images

Edited February 27, 2022 by DavidDCM