Kiev Is Burning

[Stuart Galbraith]

 

[Daan]

Video from the scene where the T-80 popped its turret, Velyka Danylivka, NE Kharkiv outskirts. MT-LB and other vehicles burning, Russian dead on the road:

 

[Stuart Galbraith]

According to BBC, I believe I heard them say NATO was activating its defence plan.

[Daan]

Column of Ukrainian T-64s allegedly near Kherson, one of which is burning and the others standing still or abandoned:

 

[Stuart Galbraith]

 

[Daan]

Russian helicopter going down in a ball of flames:

 

[rmgill]

10 hours ago, futon said:

Murph used it IIRC. For democrats that play rhetorical games and dishonest games. Like Trudeau at the commons. The other variations you mentioned have not been used on the site. Ryan is opening up with that and already planting incomparable assertions and goal post all over and talking in a taunting way as if he's got lots more reserves and ammunition to beat down lets see.. japrat? see better behave good and eat glory narrative. 

No, I'm refuting your incomparable assertions by giving key examples of atrocities by  both and noting the vast differences between the both. I think you're the one playing the games and I'm refuting your position, assertion and equivocation. 

I presume that you know enough about Amritsar and Nanking to know that they really aren't comparable. Yes the British gunned down some 2000 Indians who were 'in revolt' as they saw it but it was beyond the pale and as I said the British themselves were appalled. But in Nanking, it was the rape, torture, murder for sport of some 200,000 chinese with even A Nazi Party figure being appalled and doing everything he could to stop it and save as many Chinese as possible. In Nanking, Gen Matsui was held accountable  by the Japanese because it was an international embarrassment, more because they were caught out by international press who were there, not because it was an appalling act to the Japanese People. 

 

[rmgill]

In all this footage how are we discerning who is Russian and who is Ukrainian? Outward models and types doesn't help that. Rates of Blue on Blue have to be through the roof. 

[jaro]

Another Russian plane shotdown.

[TonyE]

Oryx has a new page going on equipment losses for both sides, it is being updated with pictures as they come in:

https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html

[jaro]

suposed Bayraktar attacks on Russian forces.

[X-Files]

37 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Hi Xfiles, long time no see. One of your more successful threads 🙂

 

You mean like my SPRATLeY thread????????

 

 

[futon]

10 minutes ago, rmgill said:

No, I'm refuting your incomparable assertions by giving key examples of atrocities by  both and noting the vast differences between the both. I think you're the one playing the games and I'm refuting your position, assertion and equivocation. 

I presume that you know enough about Amritsar and Nanking to know that they really aren't comparable. Yes the British gunned down some 2000 Indians who were 'in revolt' as they saw it but it was beyond the pale and as I said the British themselves were appalled. But in Nanking, it was the rape, torture, murder for sport of some 200,000 chinese with even A Nazi Party figure being appalled and doing everything he could to stop it and save as many Chinese as possible. In Nanking, Gen Matsui was held accountable  by the Japanese because it was an international embarrassment, more because they were caught out by international press who were there, not because it was an appalling act to the Japanese People. 

 

https://www.tanknet.org/index.php?/topic/40932-japanese-war-guilt-from-locked-thread/&do=findComment&comment=1574253

[X-Files]

6 minutes ago, TonyE said:

Oryx has a new page going on equipment losses for both sides, it is being updated with pictures as they come in:

https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html

 

As usual, your posts are worthwhile. Give yourself a cookie, my treat.

[Stuart Galbraith]

3 minutes ago, X-Files said:

 

You mean like my SPRATLeY thread????????

 

 

Dude, put the Crystal ball away.😁

Edited February 24, 2022 by Stuart Galbraith

[AETiglathPZ]

1 hour ago, seahawk said:

Gostomel air assault. Russian liberation forces on the way to Kiev.

 

Cutting off one of the highways? 07, E373 to Poland to prevent UKR government escape?

I remember this from history class. 

 

[Stuart Galbraith]

10 minutes ago, TonyE said:

Oryx has a new page going on equipment losses for both sides, it is being updated with pictures as they come in:

https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html

Nice one Tony.

 

 

 

[Stuart Galbraith]

 

[AETiglathPZ]

3 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Nice one Tony.

 

 

 

Both sets of captured troops are wearing similar but different cloth bands around their legs? Makeshift identification to ID fellow RU forces quickly to prevent friendly fire? Are they makeshift based on use by what they got or do different bands mean something different like units?

[Stuart Galbraith]

They might have put bands on their leg to identify them as POWs. Their uniforms are kinda similar.

[Stuart Galbraith]

Someone in  Kharkiv knows what they are doing.

 

 

[Stuart Galbraith]

Video on CNN showing Russian Airborne troops occupying the airport 20 miles outside Kyiv.

[Stuart Galbraith]

This is starting to get expensive.

[bojan]

33 minutes ago, jaro said:

suposed Bayraktar attacks on Russian forces.

From Syria.

[TonyE]

10 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Someone in  Kharkiv knows what they are doing.

 

Column of ukrainian BMP1s abandoned/burning, the tanks are ukrainian T-64s north of Crimea.