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In the wake of the US and Europe unveiling what is believed to be just the first round of sanctions on Russian individuals and institutions in response to Moscow's recognition of two regions in Ukraine as "sovereign states," China said that unilateral sanctions have never been effective in solving global crises, and warned the US not to harm China and other countries' legitimate interests when handling issues related to Ukraine and Russia.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Hua Chunying made the remarks at a routine press conference on Wednesday. "Our position is that sanctions are never fundamentally effective means to solve problems. We consistently oppose all illegal unilateral sanctions," Hua said. 

Chinese analysts said that Russia seemed well prepared for Western sanctions before Russian President Vladimir Putin signed on Monday two decrees recognizing "the Lugansk People's Republic (LPR)" and "the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR)" as independent and sovereign states. As Russia has huge energy reserves including oil and gas, as well as rare metals, Moscow does have measures to hit back, and its cooperation with China in payment systems could limit the impact of any Western sanctions. 

But it is possible that US sanctions will target Chinese firms or institutes that have links to Russia, which would increase the risk of further decoupling between China and the US. China needs to be prepared to minimize the possible damage to China-US economic ties, and also prepared to retaliate against potential US moves to harm China's legitimate interests, said experts. 

When asked "what role China has played for easing the current crisis," Hua said that China has always made efforts to promote negotiations and peace on regional hot spot issues. The US has been sending weapons to Ukraine, heightening tensions, creating panic and even hyping up the possibility of warfare. In stark contrast, China has all along called on all parties to respect and attach importance to each other's legitimate security concerns. 

"A key question here is what role the US, the culprit of current tensions surrounding Ukraine, has played. If someone keeps pouring oil on the flame while accusing others of not doing their best to put out the fire, such kind of behavior is clearly irresponsible and immoral," Hua said.

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https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202202/1253027.shtml

 

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Russia's much vaunted PGM capability appears to have resulted in a solid hit against a civilian apartment complex in Chuhuiv. Footage recorded by an American journalist on the ground.

 

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15 minutes ago, Daan said:

Russia's much vaunted PGM capability appears to have resulted in a solid hit against a civilian apartment complex in Chuhuiv. Footage recorded by an American journalist on the ground.

 

IMVHO that's "collateral damage" - same as in case of US "smart" weapons. Possibly remnatnts of Iskander-like missile, after warhead has detached to hit the target.

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3 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Looks like too much blast damage. Scud discards didnt do a lot of damage to Tel Aviv. No, that looks like a solid miss.

It's already been geo-located. The intended target was probably the airbase next door.

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Assuming he was aiming for the flightline, thats quite a miss, over 1000 feet I make it on Google Earth. The video ive seen shows iskander coming in on a very low trajectory, presumably part of its evasion system. You wonder if it pranged one of the apartment buildings.

 

Strange target to hit, you would think they would overun that and capture it in a few hours.

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So, a few thoughts. Probably mindless speculation but I throw it out there for comment.

There doesn seem thus far to be much tank combat. Ive seen a comment about 2 Russian tanks knocked out, with no evidence of anything else going on. The Russians in particular claim the Border Guards fled. So clearly they arent parcelling forces out in forward defence. A very smart move.

So here is the thing. What if the Ukrainians are concentrating the army elsewhere, and plan to take on each prong of the Russian attack in turn? There doesnt seem to be much evidence for that speculation, and yet, they must be somewhere. They dont seem to be fleeing over the border into Romania. So, possibly they are camped somewhere to the west of Kiev, read to jump in and defend the capitol? Or maybe the south, so they can clobber anyone taking the ports, before working up and defeating anyone coming in from Transnistria?

Just a crazy idea on my part.

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2 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

So, a few thoughts. Probably mindless speculation but I throw it out there for comment.

There doesn seem thus far to be much tank combat. Ive seen a comment about 2 Russian tanks knocked out, with no evidence of anything else going on. The Russians in particular claim the Border Guards fled. So clearly they arent parcelling forces out in forward defence. A very smart move.

So here is the thing. What if the Ukrainians are concentrating the army elsewhere, and plan to take on each prong of the Russian attack in turn? There doesnt seem to be much evidence for that speculation, and yet, they must be somewhere. They dont seem to be fleeing over the border into Romania. So, possibly they are camped somewhere to the west of Kiev, read to jump in and defend the capitol? Or maybe the south, so they can clobber anyone taking the ports, before working up and defeating anyone coming in from Transnistria?

Just a crazy idea on my part.

Well Russia seems to be making a typical NATO attack type with long range weapons.

Technology expands and now Russia  have many guided systems.

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3 minutes ago, Sikkiyn said:

Could it have been an anti-radiation variant that was tricked by the target operator, or other method?

 

Went for someone's microwave you mean? :D

Yes, I guess thats possible. I remember in One day in a Long War, a French newspaper described an attack on a North Vietnamese hospital, and the weapon described resembled a Shrine that went rogue.

Looks a big blast for anything less than an Iskander though. Maybe a JDAMski or LGB I suppose.

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Burned-out Ukrainian BTR4 and Russian Tigr:

Abandoned and damaged column of Ukrainian vehicles near Crimea:

Russian advances from the Crimean penincula:

 

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Russian forces in control of Kahovskaya hidropowerstation and dam on Dniper  - it means Dniper is allready crossed on South direction.

At the same time, up to 30 Russian helicopters operate 20 km from Kiev (probably, air assault operation). One helicopters shown shot down, one damaged.

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Cruise missile strike on airbase, not a very fast missile:

Heliborne air assault on an airbase near Kiev:

One wonders where any short range AA or SAMs are. Even some smattering of camouflaged ZU-23 emplacements and MANPADs would have wiped these helicopters from the air.

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6 minutes ago, Daan said:

Cruise missile strike on airbase, not a very fast missile:

Heliborne air assault on an airbase near Kiev:

One wonders where any short range AA or SAMs are. Even some scattering of camouflaged ZU-23 emplacements and MANPADs would have wiped these helicopters from the air.

This missiles are subsonic, easily tracked by camera. Re helicopters - It is 20km from Kiev, seems like pro-Ukrainians got no significant forces there.

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Indeed.   But do not beat this ...

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The UK's spies are being urged to consider their "white privilege" as Europe braces for war.
The chiefs of MI5, MI6 and GCHQ have told staff to avoid using words such as "manpower", "strong" and "grip" because these can "reinforce dominant cultural patterns".
The guidance, from a leaked dossier titled "Mission Critical", was published internally on Dec 6 amid fears that Vladimir Putin would invade Ukraine.

The document has caused concern in some government quarters that security officials are more focused on diversity and inclusion than global security, according to the Daily Mail.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/02/24/britains-spies-told-check-white-privilege-stop-saying-manpower/

 

 

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